7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=Cooper112]Annie and Lulu seem pretty good on support in Competitive why so low on yours? Sona is not really even seeing any play when you said this is based on high or competitive not pure solo q. Annie is good but Leona counters her. Lulu is is weak in lane but op in team fights and mid game. I think there higher in tier 2 but we will see. Both of which get more play than Sona, Zilean which i have not seen in patches actually played well same with zyra. Just look here if you dont believe no one is even practicing it... http://www.probuilds.net/champions/Zilean[/quote]

[quote=Blian]Today at LCS EU and also LCK Sbenu they always picked [[Annie]] with [[Sivir]].[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112]Its obvious why annie is good now her lane is still weak its just right now meta is all dive comps with liss and gnar and annie and sivir.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]How do you think this will affect the jungle list? Jungle Enchantments Recipe cost lowered to 500 (down from 600) Machete Upgrades Recipe cost increased by 100 Item cost increased by 100[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]Won't change much. Annie is good, just not sure how high I want to put her atm[/quote]

[quote=Mooninites]Leona is pretty much the defacto response to Annie, so if annie is rising leona will be too.[/quote]

[quote=utopus][[leona]] can handle [[annie]] so well. When i play against an [[annie]] as any other support but [[leona]], i feel like i get instadropped.[/quote]

[quote=NicknameMy]I think the jungle item changes will have an effect. This is due to the fact that you now have to clear 4-5 camps in order to get it, other than 3. Non-sustain junglers will have greater problems and sustain junglers will get stronger. [[AAtrox]] everywhere?[/quote]

[quote=Blian][quote=NicknameMy]I think the jungle item changes will have an effect. This is due to the fact that you now have to clear 4-5 camps in order to get it, other than 3. Non-sustain junglers will have greater problems and sustain junglers will get stronger. [[AAtrox]] everywhere?[/quote] I saw him a few times in the jungle on LCS EU this week.[/quote]

[quote=H4xDefender]Aatrox jungle is garbage. He clears slowly and sustains only enough to keep farming, not to gank. You get around enough for the jungle item with 3 camps depending on your clear time. Even for the others, lots of junglers can do a 4th camp with relative ease.[/quote]