7.4 Tier List + AMA

[quote=Cooper112][quote=Zordagoth]Except that in LCS you're not in a soloqueue game, and you know for sure that no flash = free kills. I really think he does not need ignite at all, get your [[Trinity force]] it's the only item you need to literally stomp the backline, go tanky and GG[/quote] If he does not need ignite it would not be the most commonly used summoner spell on him and best win rate. [url=http://champion.gg/champion/Hecarim/Top]Hec top[/url][/quote]

[quote=utopus]To reiterate my point from earlier, [[teleport]][[ignite]] [[hecarim]] has been met with lane swaps many times in the LCS. I'm not a fan because hecarim doesn't really get to make the best use of [[ignite]] from levels 1-6 because of that.[/quote]

[quote=sirell]It really relies on getting the equal lane matchup in order to get the [[hecarim]] going. He's pretty item dependent from what I remember, but one good ult can always turn a game, I guess.[/quote]

[quote=Jimmydoggga 2.0]Ignite Hec wins games because that's the only way to get kills in lane unless someone like Pantheon is your. Jungler and can stop the enemy running back under tower. In lane you just farm and hope that Trinity + Sunfire Cape is enough to make you unkillable. As for lane swaps I don't see why getting [[ghost]] on Hecarim makes the lane any easier And you never ever get [[Flash]] on him.[/quote]

[quote=Shuru]So outside of that, Vlad top has been played a lot lately on pro streams as a top laner, I've noticed over the last few days that I've seen a large portion of vlad tops on master/challenger streams, Can anyone explain to me why they'd be playing him more lately?[/quote]

[quote=Cooper112][quote=utopus]To reiterate my point from earlier, [[teleport]][[ignite]] [[hecarim]] has been met with lane swaps many times in the LCS. I'm not a fan because hecarim doesn't really get to make the best use of [[ignite]] from levels 1-6 because of that.[/quote] Hate it all you want its viable and best playstyle for hec otherwise no one would be using it.[/quote]

[quote=Zordagoth]Believe it or not, cheesing with a new picks doesn't make him the best playstyle. It just shows that people underestimate the pony A LOT. It's exactly like the TF jungle, is it the best way ? no. Does it work anyway ? Can work. Soon people will learn how Pony works and he'll be back at wrecking jungle with the new Cinderhulk =3[/quote]

[quote=utopus]I can't [i]really[/i] disagree with cooper though. 52.67% win rate with TP ignite top in plat+ speaks volumes; It is without a doubt a strong pick, especially without lane swaps... And let's be real lane swaps don't happen often in soloQ; They're pretty hard to coordinate[/quote]

[quote=VexRoth][quote=Shuru]So outside of that, Vlad top has been played a lot lately on pro streams as a top laner, I've noticed over the last few days that I've seen a large portion of vlad tops on master/challenger streams, Can anyone explain to me why they'd be playing him more lately?[/quote] I've noticed more Vlad at Bronze / Silver as well and I believe the reasons are in no particular order: 1) He is a [[Gnar]] counter 2) They bumped the base health regeneration on [[Spectre's Cowl]] from 100% to 150%[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]To be honest, as an adc I've been pit against a fed pony and it's a real bitch to try to handle it.[/quote]