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Official "What am I doing wrong?" thread

Creator: OTGBionicArm August 28, 2015 5:16pm
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If you really want advice, click "Competitive Scene," "Start Topic," Write, then get feedback/advice. That way, your advice doesn't get lost in the crowd of a single thread and can be reviewed a lot easier at any time.
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If you really want advice, click "Competitive Scene," "Start Topic," Write, then get feedback/advice. That way, your advice doesn't get lost in the crowd of a single thread and can be reviewed a lot easier at any time.

If you think that, just leave the thread alone and watch it fail. If you wanna be really mean, you can just wait until no one has posted anything in it for half a year, then necro it to get it locked.
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Because, that's for new players and most of us aren't new players anymore.


And competitive scene is for talking about the LoL eSports scene as well as people's ranked stories, and most of us only give you advice because we think you need it. There zero emphasis anywhere in the title about giving help, but rather for people to understand how to improve by themselves.

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I'll let you know if I need, because I really don't need it for the most part.
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I'll let you know if I need, because I really don't need it for the most part.


Uh, no, you do.

Challenger players, heck, LCS players still look to always improve because there are still people better than them, and there are still people that will be better than them. And in your case, there are a lot of people that are better than you. You know what, let me reword that. There are still people that are at a better rank than you, and we all know you want to be at that same rank. We want you at a better rank, initially because we all have a natural urge to be nice and help, and now, probably because you're starting to get irritating. But regardless, we still want you to get better.

I'm looking at your match history right now. I'm not going to give you advice because it's obviously useless directed towards you, but what I can tell you, putting the intentionally feeding games aside, is that when you do well, you win (for the most part). When you lose, you do poorly. I mean, no ****, right? The thing is, very few games where you do exceptionally well, you lose, at least not much more than any other person around here. And it's not like you're getting more bad players than any of us. Some games, they're out of your control. Secondly, you have games where you do poorly as well, and these generally are games you aren't playing ADC. Obviously, based on that, YOU could be doing better, alongside your team doing better. From that, obviously you do need our advice.

What you need to get through your skull is that the system is fair. You can get unlucky, sure, but if you're good enough to climb, you will climb. I think you can climb because your ADC stats are exceptional. Take it as you will, but just stick to ADC. Don't bother with anything else unless you have to. I mainly just play support in ranked, and that's how I climb. I think if you stick to ADC for the most part, you will see results.

EDIT: I just want to genuinely ask you, are you having issues in your life? Because you have moments where you're determined, enthusiastic and receptive to improving, where you say you're changing, and we believe you because we can see it for ourselves. And then you pull this ******** on us.

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So, we've had countless one off threads or question things made asking the same thing "What am I doing wrong?"

So I figured I would make a super thread where people can go to ask the question and post their match histories of ranked games (the extended views) and people can critique their builds, and effectiveness in their ranked games.

Since I'm curious about my own as well, I'll post mine first.
http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/NA/40916318?matchType=2

As it stands, I'm at around a 45% win rate, but I appear to simply be floating around. My main role has shifted from top lane into more bot lane and jungling, and even though I feel like I'm playing great, I'm not managing to win more than 50% of my games. What do you guys think?


Late to the party but your warding as a support is terrible at best. You're pretty much averaging 0.3/0.4 wards per minute. Only two out of your most recent 5 games you managed to surpass 0.5 wards per minute.

One ward per minute should be your goal (meaning twice or even three times as right now) and dropping far below that should absolutely never happen.

I also noticed you don't destroy as much wards as I'd like to but the difference between you and the supports you play against isn't as big here as it is for wards placed.

In short: you should have 3 wards + 1 pink ward at the map at all times once you finish sightstone. It means you'll be basing a lot (pretty much once every 3 minutes) just to refresh sightstone stacks but that's absolutely mandatory if you want to maintain proper vision control.


Here you have a comparison between two 40 minute ranked games (42 and 44 respectively), yours and mine. Both were wins so that shouldn't be a factor either. Note how my ADC warded more than you did.






Also, I added a pro game (EULCS Finals game 5 Fnatic vs Origen):


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Thank you Vyn! I do need to work on my quick placement of wards. I've been trying to remember to ward more on other roles too (look at my Ekko games for example), but I admit I get kind of tunnel vision for forcing team fights if I'm ahead. While that may not be a bad thing when a master yi on my team can practically 1v5 them with some slight assistance by me, had that Yi not been decimating, I could very well have lost that game due to ****ty warding. :/

So warding priority over everything else, including forcing fights?
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Yes. Vision can be used defensively as well as offensively by giving you picks opportunities. It also can tell you if you should/shouldn't be trying to force a fight or a dive.
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Agreed, you need to be able to feed your team as much information as possible before you can make decisions about whether to fight, force an objective or rotate to a lane or not. You cannot go for a play that involves any kind of risk without any form of vision control, otherwise you'll risk losing out on an objective trade or fight for no reason.

Of course, in low Elo (read: anything up to gold) it's harder to gain and use vision control because there's so much random stuff going on at the same time, but if you have the chance you should always prioritize vision control over anything else. However, it's a team game so don't just wander off while your team is desperately looking for a fight.
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Vynertje wrote:
However, it's a team game so don't just wander off while your team is desperately looking for a fight.


I will have to say this is often the main reason my ward count is so low. If I'm not itching for a fight, teams seems to be bloodthirsty as hell in silver, and they are always being picked. I don't know if that's just how all MY personal games keep turning out or if thats just the nature of silver 2. But I will definitely try to improve my wardscore. Thank you for the advice.

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