Suggestions for a solid 5v5 premade team.

[quote=SnowCherry]SO i know that it is standard to have 1 jungler. solo top/off-tanker , solo mid/AP, duo btm/support and AD carry. But what would be a solid setup? Choices and reasons with detailed explanations please , this thread is to improve pubs mindset of "OH IMA JUST CARRY" then you get 5 carries. -.- haha! SnowCherry[/quote]

[quote=Temzilla]There are two common strategies for almost every lane at the moment. [color=#ff8000]Top Lane[/color]: You have [i]bruisers[/i] top lane, and you have [i]mages[/i] that are good with spell vamp. [b]Good Bruisers[/b]: [[Cho'Gath]], [[Olaf]], [[Udyr]], [[Irelia]], [[Gangplank]], [[Lee Sin]], [[Malphite]], [[Nasus]], [[Nidalee]], [[Renekton]], [[Singed]], [[Teemo]], [[Trundle]], [[Tryndamere]], [[Riven]], [[Volibear]], [[Warwick]], [[Wukong]], [[Yorick]], [[Jax]] and [[Garen]]. [b]Good Mages[/b]: [[Ryze]], [[Swain]], [[Rumble]], [[Kennen]], [[Soraka]], [[Morgana]], [[Galio]], [[Mordekaiser]] [color=#ff0000]Mid Lane[/color]: Mid lane can either be a mage, or a counter to the enemy mage. [b]Good Mages[/b]: [[Annie]], [[Ryze]], [[Morgana]], [[Gragas]], [[Xerath]], [[Karthus]], [[Lux]], [[Kassadin]], [[LeBlanc]], [[Maokai]], [[Orianna]], [[Sion]], [[Twisted Fate]], [[Veigar]], [[Vladimir]], [[Zilean]], [[Brand]], [[Anivia]], [[Heimerdinger]] and [[Akali]]. [b]Some Counters[/b]: [[Talon]] counters most mids, [[Garen]] counters melee mids like Kassadin and Gragas, [[Akali]] counters squishy mids like karthus, [[Cho'Gath]] counters people like karthus, or Fiddlesticks, and [[Karma]] counters mids without kill potential. [color=#800080]Bottom Lane[/color]: Bottom lane is going to be some sort of Ranged AD champion, and some sort of support. There is a HUGE list of viable supports. Make your AD carry someone who is going to [b][i][u]be able to[/u][/i][/b] do big damage late game, and make your support someone who can assist the AD champion in getting to late game, either by applying kill pressure, or denying kill pressure. [color=#008000]Junglers[/color]: In the jungle, you have farmers and gankers. [b]Some Strong farmers[/b]: [[Cho'Gath]], [[Riven]], [[Shyvana]], [[Skarner]], [[Annie]] [b]Some Strong Gankers[/b]: [[Nocturne]], [[Shaco]], [[Rammus]], [[Skarner]], [[Pantheon]] Farming junglers are better if your lanes are designed to win (You picked good counters). Ganking junglers are better if you picked strong characters, but will probably lose lanes (Got counter picked.) This is MY understanding of the game in it's current form :p[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard]+Rep Tem for the great informative post. Seems pretty accurate to me. A couple questions: 1. Why is [[Maokai]] listed as a good mage, but not a good bruiser for top lane. He's also one of the best ganking junglers in the game (though I realize you didn't list all of them). 2. [[Annie]] is a strong farming jungler? O.O[/quote]

[quote=SnowCherry][quote=Temzilla] There are two common strategies for almost every lane at the moment. [color=#ff8000]Top Lane[/color]: You have [i]bruisers[/i] top lane, and you have [i]mages[/i] that are good with spell vamp. [b]Good Bruisers[/b]: [[Cho'Gath]], [[Olaf]], [[Udyr]], [[Irelia]], [[Gangplank]], [[Lee Sin]], [[Malphite]], [[Nasus]], [[Nidalee]], [[Renekton]], [[Singed]], [[Teemo]], [[Trundle]], [[Tryndamere]], [[Riven]], [[Volibear]], [[Warwick]], [[Wukong]], [[Yorick]], [[Jax]] and [[Garen]]. [b]Good Mages[/b]: [[Ryze]], [[Swain]], [[Rumble]], [[Kennen]], [[Soraka]], [[Morgana]], [[Galio]], [[Mordekaiser]] [color=#ff0000]Mid Lane[/color]: Mid lane can either be a mage, or a counter to the enemy mage. [b]Good Mages[/b]: [[Annie]], [[Ryze]], [[Morgana]], [[Gragas]], [[Xerath]], [[Karthus]], [[Lux]], [[Kassadin]], [[LeBlanc]], [[Maokai]], [[Orianna]], [[Sion]], [[Twisted Fate]], [[Veigar]], [[Vladimir]], [[Zilean]], [[Brand]], [[Anivia]], [[Heimerdinger]] and [[Akali]]. [b]Some Counters[/b]: [[Talon]] counters most mids, [[Garen]] counters melee mids like Kassadin and Gragas, [[Akali]] counters squishy mids like karthus, [[Cho'Gath]] counters people like karthus, or Fiddlesticks, and [[Karma]] counters mids without kill potential. [color=#800080]Bottom Lane[/color]: Bottom lane is going to be some sort of Ranged AD champion, and some sort of support. There is a HUGE list of viable supports. Make your AD carry someone who is going to [b][i][u]be able to[/u][/i][/b] do big damage late game, and make your support someone who can assist the AD champion in getting to late game, either by applying kill pressure, or denying kill pressure. [color=#008000]Junglers[/color]: In the jungle, you have farmers and gankers. [b]Some Strong farmers[/b]: [[Cho'Gath]], [[Riven]], [[Shyvana]], [[Skarner]], [[Annie]] [b]Some Strong Gankers[/b]: [[Nocturne]], [[Shaco]], [[Rammus]], [[Skarner]], [[Pantheon]] Farming junglers are better if your lanes are designed to win (You picked good counters). Ganking junglers are better if you picked strong characters, but will probably lose lanes (Got counter picked.) This is MY understanding of the game in it's current form :p [/quote] Cass can mid too right? and for jungler , is lee-sin a good choice? What would be your optimal best 5 team. :) Mine would be Tryndamere top, Cass or Kass mid, Jungler Lee-Sin , Sona & Caitlyn/Vayne/Ashe bottom Would this team be good?[/quote]

[quote=Zoki]Wukong top, Morgana mid, Graves and Sona bot and Amumu Jungle. 5 AoE ulties. Wukong knock up, Morgana stun, Graves AoE damage, Sona stun, Amumu suppress. GG[/quote]

[quote=SnowCherry][quote=Zoki] Wukong top, Morgana mid, Graves and Sona bot and Amumu Jungle. 5 AoE ulties. Wukong knock up, Morgana stun, Graves AoE damage, Sona stun, Amumu suppress. GG [/quote] thats a really solid team but ppl tend to ban morgana in ranked. so yeah. :) SnowCherry[/quote]

[quote=Zoki]Replace her with Annie/Karthus. Both high end damage AoE ulties.[/quote]

[quote=PsiGuard][quote=Zoki] Wukong top, Morgana mid, Graves and Sona bot and Amumu Jungle. 5 AoE ulties. Wukong knock up, Morgana stun, Graves AoE damage, Sona stun, Amumu suppress. GG [/quote] Nitpicking, but Amumu's ultimate is not a suppress. @SnowCherry: [[Cassiopeia]] is a fine mid.[/quote]

[quote=Zoki]Yea I know but how does it actually categorize? It isn't stun, it isn't suppress,...[/quote]

[quote=Nighthawk]It's a 2 second stun as I recall. Ah, the good ol days when his ult was 4 seconds and OP as fuck...[/quote]