WTB morg rework

[quote=RCIX]Seriously. Sorry you worked your butt off farming with lasthits (and Qs sometimes), im gonna outfarm you by pressing E over your wave. Im also gonna miss 95% of Qs (which I spam at least once a wave btw) and not care, because i can kill 50% of your health the one time it does hit. To top it off, I have an ult that will win teamfights on its own, and the strongest anti-CC in the game which I can apply to an ally as well as myself. *rage* Would have poted in QQ thread but i'm hoping an actual discussion is started.[/quote]

[quote=Acid Reigns]It's her W not her E :3 And she can only do that at like lvl 7-9[/quote]

[quote=Yukimaru]I totally agree with you, Morgana is so broken. I always just thought her bind is strong&her Spellshield, but after i played her in a 1on1 Random mid game and i saw the ratio of her ult aswell that her pool shreds magic resistance...ffs... Just rework this fucking spellshield for not blocking hard CC's and make her ult not Zhonya's viable and shes kay -.-[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]But then I play Swain and have an AD jungler and things are 'kay. Seriously. Gank her early, beat her late. Even Stonewall has said "Even the strongest champion can be knocked to the ground when they're camped." This is paraphrased of course but the principle remains the same. Would you rather she have a no animation snare and have damage scale off being tanky?[/quote]

[quote=RCIX]Then she just Ws wave and runs back to tower and it's k. You can make her first few levels painful but after that she WILL farm and she WILL be strong in teamfights and you CAN'T stop her short of repeated tower dive ganks which you might not even make it out of (ohai super strong dot and long snare) The point isn't that she's OP its that shes stupidly easy and boring to play against.[/quote]

[quote=Lugignaf]I'm going to look at high ELO for a second. All junglers are AD for a start. Alistar is the only "standard" non-AD jungler that I can think of. Now, let's look at the band for IPL4. 9 Morg bans, 8 Morg picks. She won 2 of those games. She's not the largest threat pre-5 and you can zone her pretty easily as her MS is low as well as her pool range.[/quote]

[quote=RCIX]Not referring to high elo, referringto 99% of LoL games...[/quote]

[quote=LaronX]@Lugignaf Well the 2 games mono through with her can be counted to her win. Also the problem with Soloq is that people tend to stand on the pole and take her full ulti in the face.[/quote]

[quote=JEFFY40HANDS]Play Katarina against Morg, give no fucks..... Morg is somewhat like Kennen, you almost NEED to get Hourglass, which delays her damage considerably, unlike rushing deathcap on 99% of other AP mids. If you're having trouble in lane against Morg, you're either failing to avoid her snare, or not understanding the advantages of early harass against a champion who can't win trades without landing her Q. Morg can't handle persistent harass early. She doesn't need a rework, you just need to learn how to counter her mechanics. As well to clarify her Tormented Soil only clears caster creeps when it is rank 3 with minimal AP. And it's due to the fact that Tormented Soil reduces MR over time as it ticks. Either way, Morg isn't the end all beat all AP mid. She's a SAFE pick for mid lane. Hard to gank essentially "immune" to CC if you can't break her shield. Capable of farming with minimal effort. SAFE, not OP, not broken, not impossible to kill, SAFE. You just gotta get better at fighting her.[/quote]

[quote=RCIX][quote=JEFFY40HANDS] Either way, Morg isn't the end all beat all AP mid. She's a SAFE pick for mid lane. Hard to gank essentially "immune" to CC if you can't break her shield. Capable of farming with minimal effort. SAFE, not OP, not broken, not impossible to kill, SAFE. [/quote] This is what I dislike. It's not even just that she's safe. It's that she's safe, stupidly easy to play, and brings tons of utility to teamfights (flash ult zhonyas, enemy team now has to choose between splitting up and getting aced). [quote=JEFFY40HANDS] If you're having trouble in lane against Morg, you're either failing to avoid her snare, or not understanding the advantages of early harass against a champion who can't win trades without landing her Q. Morg can't handle persistent harass early. She doesn't need a rework, you just need to learn how to counter her mechanics. [/quote] Also, I forgot: she wins trades through a free wota of spellvamp by the time you're looking at doing any serious trading. Anyway, I'm avoiding her harass fine, I just dislike having to play against a champ who gets to make her enemy play dodgeball and match or outfarm them by virtue of having a stupid amount of aoe damage on a farming skill (inb4 "you suck at farming" Not much I can do when I have to spend 5 seconds dodging a menacing Morg who is threatening to chunk me if I dont run from Q). Overall, same reason I hate fighting Yorick and other similar characters.[/quote]