New Guide HELP!

[quote=naxtilian]Hey guys, I have just created a guide for Vi I have saved it and published it but when I click on Vi in the champion list it says there are no builds for her. I also can not see the build I made for pantheon when I click on him in the champion list. Am I doing something wrong ? Is there some how I have to make the guide LIVE or something. Thanks for your time reading and any help you guys might give me :D Naxtilian[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod]Your guide is there. Also, if I were you I'd archive the guide for a while. I haven't read it, but the guides emerging after a champ comes out tend to get downvoted by the people that wrote other guides for the same champ. It's a pointless, pitiable war. Not to mention most of you don't actually know the best way to build/play the champ. I mean, loads of guides from old champs emerging now have a million misconcepts and errors, why would stuff about new champs be any better?[/quote]

[quote=devdevil]^Because there's always room for improvement? Hah, is your negativity pointed towards other guides on [[Kayle]], [[Swain]], and [[Rumble]]? You could also give support to the guides, I'm sure it will be gladly welcomed, and you will get a nice +rep for your help :)[/quote]

[quote=naxtilian]Thanks for the feed back a guy called Lugignaf told me on another thread that t was because i needed to have over 5000 characters in my description.[/quote]

[quote=FalseoGod][quote=devdevil] ^Because there's always room for improvement? Hah, is your negativity pointed towards other guides on [[Kayle]], [[Swain]], and [[Rumble]]? You could also give support to the guides, I'm sure it will be gladly welcomed, and you will get a nice +rep for your help :) [/quote] You misunderstand my point. I have given feedback in both guides about those champions, and many other guides (S2 teemo was one of the worsely played champions and part was from these terribad guides) and I have no problem in doing so without being a cruel bastard. But in all honesty, people at release guides (most of the ones who write it, not directed towards the OP) don't give jack about improving: they write a guide as fast as they can, with as much info as they think they got right (or not), and then they try keeping their guide above everyone else's through downvotes, alternate accs, etc. It's a pitiable attempt at winning some popularity contest. It's much better for you to just keep learning the champ, read about him/her, and release your guide 1 month later with much better info and better chances at bypassing the angry downvote mob.[/quote]