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[GIVEAWAY]Curse voice beta key giveaway!

Creator: IPodPulse April 17, 2014 9:05pm
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I don't know about making you a worse player - not having to focus on dragon and baron timers as well as having to ask your teammates when their ult cooldown is would surely make you more able to focus on playing the actual game better rather than making you play worse. It's not lazy if all you're doing is using a more convenient and efficient alternative.

So it also tracks cooldowns ? Means eventually you will stop practicing or paying attention to the cooldowns yourself and relying on the tool to do it for you. What if the tool gets removed within time and then you don't know a rat**** about ulti cooldowns for example as you have relied on the tool to do it for you.

-> Makes you worse player and doesn't improve you as one. No reason to get it. Cheap "cheat" tool in my opinion.

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Let's say you are taking a difficult course at a university. One of your colleagues approaches you and lets you know that she offers tutoring for this course.

would you say no, because if, one day, she stops offering you tutoring, you'll instafail your course?

Of course not - you'd hop on that **** and go to every single tutoring session she offers and hope that your performance in the class improves because of it. If there's a resource that you're not taking full advantage of, you're only cheating yourself.

Ipulsefire is giving you the opportunity to better manage cooldown timers. Why would you not take advantage of that?
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utopus wrote:

Let's say you are taking a difficult course at a university. One of your colleagues approaches you and lets you know that she offers tutoring for this course.

would you say no, because if, one day, she stops offering you tutoring, you'll instafail your course?

Of course not - you'd hop on that **** and go to every single tutoring session she offers and hope that your performance in the class improves because of it. If there's a resource that you're not taking full advantage of, you're only cheating yourself.

Ipulsefire is giving you the opportunity to better manage cooldown timers. Why would you not take advantage of that?

That's not exactly relevant example.

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you didn't quit high school, no real gamer ggwp

When did I say I quit highscool?
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Ishan_A wrote:

When did I say I quit highscool?

you didn't quit high school, no real gamer ggwp
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Joxuu wrote:

So it also tracks cooldowns ? Means eventually you will stop practicing or paying attention to the cooldowns yourself and relying on the tool to do it for you. What if the tool gets removed within time and then you don't know a rat**** about ulti cooldowns for example as you have relied on the tool to do it for you.

-> Makes you worse player and doesn't improve you as one. No reason to get it. Cheap "cheat" tool in my opinion.


Eh? Your argument doesn't hold water.

How will it mean I don't pay attention to cooldowns? By glancing up to the top right, I can see instantly how much time left my teammates have left on ultimate cooldowns. I still have to make the effort to keep track of my teammate's ultimate timers. In fact, if I see that my teammate has 5s left to their ultimate, I have immediate awareness that I could possibly make something happen with an engage.

The fact that I don't have to look up my teammate's ultimate cooldown or haven't played the champion before so as to know their ultimate cooldown doesn't make me lazy at all, it simply makes it more efficient.

Now I don't have to distract myself mid-game to ask my teammate's when their ult cooldown is and I can actually focus on playing the game.

-> Doesn't make you a worse player, convenient tool, plenty of reason to get it. The only real problem with it is that not every player has it, which makes it an unfair advantage, but it by no means makes a player 'lazy'. Especially when half the **** it provides is already done through timestamps and 3rd party voice chats. The other half you can ask your teammates for CD, which really isn't being a 'better' player, which you seem to be implying.

Is it cheating? Well, yes, I consider it to be, since not every player has it. Does it make one lazy? Not really.
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The tool looks for cooldowns, not you. If I see Lulu ultimating for example, I know the the exact time when it's back up again. Are you able to do so without the tool after using it for month or two ? That was my point. You may see the cooldowns but you can't say you understand over the cooldowns because you're using the program.

You don't need to ask for ultimate or summoner cooldowns if you know them yourself. LoL is strategic game and this program backstabs everyone who has taken the time to gain strategic edge over opponent.

I don't really care if people use the program or not but in my opinion Curse Voice is ****ty tool that shouldn't even exist. I'll end taking part of this topic here as It's going overboard from my part.

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Because I jungle and people keep stealing my jungle ;c so I need to know when stuff spawns.
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BLOCKTIGON wrote:

Because I jungle and people keep stealing my jungle ;c so I need to know when stuff spawns.

It only keeps track of Dragon and Baron, not normal/buff camps.
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Joxuu wrote:

The tool looks for cooldowns, not you. If I see Lulu ultimating for example, I know the the exact time when it's back up again. Are you able to do so without the tool after using it for month or two ? That was my point. You may see the cooldowns but you can't say you understand over the cooldowns because you're using the program.

You don't need to ask for ultimate or summoner cooldowns if you know them yourself. LoL is strategic game and this program backstabs everyone who has taken the time to gain strategic edge over opponent.

I don't really care if people use the program or not but in my opinion Curse Voice is ****ty tool that shouldn't even exist. I'll end taking part of this topic here as It's going overboard from my part.


It's a frigging cooldown. What is there to 'understand'? It's a countdown to when the ability can be used again. Stop trying to overcomplicate it. It would be the same whether I saw a teammate ult and know the CD or than when I ask them. Plus, people can ult and you don't know it. Like being botlane and not seeing when top ults for whatever reason.

As I said, knowing something crucial as your teammate's ultimate should really have been implemented into the system long ago and that since it's coming from a third-party, it's really just cheating atm, since it gives a distinct advantage over those who don't have Curse Voice.

But you are taking the whole concept a bit overboard by saying it makes people 'lazy'. By a similar point, quickcasting shouldn't exist either. Or timestamps. or smart pings.

Just because something has always been one way doesn't mean that it always has to be that way.
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