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Controversy over Vulcun vs Curse in the last match of the NA LCS eSports Central

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Sensei Lyfur (2) | May 6, 2013 10:54am
These were some pretty good games, I personally enjoyed watching them, but I must confess the EU LCS is far superior to the NA.
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mkDILLY | April 25, 2013 11:55am
This is so ridiculous. First off, you don't think Vulcan wanted to win? Would you rather play Dignitas or CLG right now in the first round? You don't think their hope is to win the first round and not even have to play in the promotional tournament? Don't forget that the reason these guys play professionally is to make money, and every round deeper in the tournament you go, the more money you make! If you don't think Vulcan wants to maximize their chances to go deeper in this tournament, you're crazy.

And even MORE crazy is the Curse thing. It would have been much better for them had Vulcan lost! Who wins between CLG and Vulcan now is irrelevant, because they have to go through TSM. TSM will most likely be in the finals, and Curse knows it. Instead, Vulcan losing would have created a better chance of not having to face Dignitas in the first round and facing an easier Vulcan in that round. Dignitas is going to be a hard matchup for Curse. They have a lot of history. They would much rather see Dig go out first round than CLG, who they will most likely never see in the tournament!
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McAteer | April 23, 2013 9:56pm
PsiGuard wrote:


^bias

^also bias

You can take a stance if you like, but I really don't think this article was very impartial.



"Bias entails a value-directed departure from accuracy, objectivity, and balance—not just a distorted presentation of facts. For a story to be biased, the distorted information it contains must be causally connected to the writer's or editor's values." -Stephen Klaidman.

I, for one, see no bias in anything that was written in this article. It's simply documents the game from an outside perspective. It states the obvious of what happened and details the reasoning behind the controversy.

You quoted two small sections from the article and called them both bias, yet in neither quote does the writer of this article claim these are his own opinions, they are simply stating mere observations that you, I and everyone else could observe.
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corporal courage (7) | April 22, 2013 2:48pm
If teams have to lose games to gain a strategic advantage, why should they try to win that game?
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Jebus McAzn (457) | April 20, 2013 8:44pm
Sorry for what may seem like bias - I wrote this article at four in the morning and I started paraphrasing more and more from Reddit toward the end, which may explain some of the syntax issues. I've since reworded a few things.
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Embracing (348) | April 20, 2013 6:46pm
all i saw = azure cats

:3
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jhoijhoi (1894) | April 20, 2013 5:31pm
Bias would be:

"At the same time, I noted an influx of tweets from Curse players that were a desperate attempt to show that they were taking the game seriously."

Jebus removed himself from the accusation and simply stated it how it was. The addition of "desperate" can be debated.

The second one I somewhat agree. He could have written,

"It can be argued that neither team was trying their hardest because neither team want to win. In eSports, this is an on-going problem."

If one removed all the modality (such as "easily") and affect (such as "desperate"), it'd be nuetral. However, who'd want to read that? My point was, Jebus didn't say, "It was clear that Curse was trying throw the game; I saw xxx player smirking/laughing when an allied tower fell." He wrote a great article with hardly any bias, which was great utilisation of reader positioning.
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PsiGuard (880) | April 20, 2013 5:15pm
At the same time, users have noted an influx of tweets from Curse players that seem like a desperate attempt to show that they were taking the game seriously.

^bias
It can easily be argued that neither team was trying their hardest because neither team actually wanted to win, which is a very big problem.

^also bias

You can take a stance if you like, but I really don't think this article was very impartial.
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jhoijhoi (1894) | April 20, 2013 5:14pm
Great article, Jebus. Really informative and almost no bias/stance shown, which was a highly professional approach.
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Satella (177) | April 20, 2013 5:04pm
I watched the game live; Nyjacky seemed to be the only one who was legitimately trying hard to win. Other Crs members were doing YOLO suicides and trying to make plays in high-risk low-reward situations. I don't think Crs was focused so much on winning as much as just having fun and trying to put on a show for spectators to end the LCS season (and putting on a show they certainly did; that was one of the most fun games I've seen being casted). Reading deeper than that really isn't a wise idea.
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Jebus McAzn (457) | April 20, 2013 3:59pm
Note that much of the drama is caused not just because Vulcun role swapped and Curse picked strange champions, but because both teams were suspected of underperforming in an attempt to intentionally throw the game.

Regardless, any accusation is a stretch (in my opinion) and I'm glad that Riot decided to let both teams slide.
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UnhallowedGeralf (4) | April 20, 2013 3:19pm
TSM in first :D
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Yesiamaduck | April 20, 2013 10:26am
That team is viable, therefore the should be no controversy, it's not like they ran AD Heimendinger and support Kog'Maw with solo mid Sona
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sirell (396) | April 20, 2013 8:57am
Well, THAT'S not making a mountain out of a molehill.
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Forgottenduty (78) | April 20, 2013 8:27am
I think they seem to had some fun in the last game. And that's abbout it.
Although Curse throwed a lot of games in this week and they defenetly look out of shape.
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ExamplePrime (33) | April 20, 2013 1:56am
Wait. Thats it?
Fizz jungle and Nunu top?
Nunu top not only works its strong
Fizz jungle works too

This drama is pathetic, everyone calling out Curse when the other team swapped roles
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A Chubby Baby (290) | April 20, 2013 12:37am
Never thought at the end of the NA LCS, TSM would finish as first!

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