General Guide by Heffyend

-1 This hurt my eyes, Quints of movespeed... Are you real?.
Urgot in tier 3? have you see the IEM which the AD carry of moscow five solo botlane with urgot? ... have you see how wicked is his ult?.
Flash + Heal? You don't need Heal, your support must have Heal assuming you are going bot with a Support.
: / if you have to use that heal then you are positioning bad.

My thoughts.

Movement Speed Quint there is a reason to it. If you haven't notice most ad range dps top players even in tournaments (including M5) has been using movement speed quint. reason being is that it provides the speed boost you need to keep up with the melee champs early game and to avoid getting ganked. now onto the issue about Urgot. Yes I did watch that match and if you cant notice I have a guide for Urgot available. I do believe he is strong and can rape a lot of champs early, but lets say Fiora top or Kassadid or Kennen get fed early game, too. On the long run Urgot starts becoming more useless especially at late game. He is more suitable for early game to mid game domination but in terms of actually being able to carry a game every time is rather difficult. He's one of those champs that either you do really well with or you just suck with because there is no catching up for him especially due to his late game disadvantage.

I'm sorry Zeedr but I'm going to stick up for Heffyend her and say you are wrong in your comment up there. Movespeed quints are strong on anyone and that includes ranged DPS who have the lowest base movespeed in the game as a characteristic. I think flat armour penetration is a fantastic alternative as well as lifesteal quints, but there is nothing wrong with the extra movement speed and they scale well throughout the game. Plus it's the individual's choice anyway, if he wants movespeed and explains his choice, who are you to say it's right or wrong?

Urgot it tier three because he's not a carry. We all saw Moscow 5 in IEM and those are the five best players in the world, Genji will do well with whoever he plays and their solo urgot lane was effective because it was surprising, not because Urgot is now god tier. He still falls off mid-late game and is not an autoattacker (aka not a hard carry).

Heal is an amazing summoner for AD carries bot lane because it allows you to decide when you use the summoner, should your support be dead or out of position, and it also gives more health to the summoner who casts it. What would you suggest instead? a kill lane with Ignite? Don't make me laugh. Ignite late game is worth less than a single autoattack from a farmed AD carry. Please check your facts before you downvote a guide.

@Heffyend, I like what you're doing here but you need to add coding and organization to make this stand out. PM me if you have any questions, but I'm going to +1 you for now to get you started.

@CombatJack1 Where did i say that i was using Ignite. I think it depends on the other team, i mean i don't think that movespeed is so bad, you shouldn't not be roaming at early game, you must be farming at bot. Boots + Phantom Dancer solve your movement problems and a tell me an AD carry who does not take Phantom Dancer. I feel like Flash, Exhaust a more viable option at least at my point of view and gameplay i agree to the guide but i'm a fellow urgot player and i don't think he belongs to tier3. And Ignite is not useless, have you ever ignite a healing Mundo?, it works. You must make choices sometimes i know that i'm going to have a hard time because of my support so a wise summoner spell for me is Teleport. Red Quints of Critical is good indeed for champs like ashe who critical shots hit so hard, but i feel like yellow ones must be Armor. I agree with the guide but at the same guide disagree, each one has points of view. You shouldn't Laugh at someone else toughts. If you like it Up Vote it, if you don't like it Down vote it. I give my point of view and my 5 cents i don't just ran in screaming JUNGLE SORAKA and down vote the guide like a troll. Still saying that i believe Urgot belongs to tier2.

I disagree at quite some things. It also made me sad to see Tristana get on a low place in the tier list, she IS the strongest late-game carry. As well as Kog'Maw. You also mention that Urgot is an carry, while Teemo and those champions are not. Urgot isn't actually an official AD carry and only gets chosen because of his strong early game harras, his late game tankyness and his ultimate. He only works with high DPS team comps.

I agree that tristana is a placed pretty low but when u come to a conclusing on utility, early game, mid game, and late game, tristana shines brightest at late game i do admit, but early game she is kinda shut down by a lot of other champs, therefore i do feel that this is a perfect spot for her in tier. she just requires too much farm and not enough fire power early game to do anything. but dont get me wrong, she can still burst people quite easily. now mentioning urgot, i put him as a ad carry since i think they is his role, personally i think teemo is not an ad carry at all. he's more usefull as a support, putting shrooms down all over the map and stuff is more helpful. even tho urgot isn't labelled as a ad carry, he still deserves a spot due to his early game prowess which out shine most champs if played in the hands of godly players like genji from m5.

@ Zeedr, I understand your point, at the time I felt that your downvote was poorly explained and honestly not necessary. On this site, a downvote will set back a new guide tremendously because it makes it harder to work back up to a good score, in the system downvotes carry more weight than upvotes depending on the score. Just understand that next time, I try to always explain my thoughts and ONLY downvote if there are blatant or offensive problems with the guide.

Moving on: Exhaust is better for your support to take because it allows you to get the maximum benefit from casting Heal on yourself as well as the maximum benefit for exhausting the enemy carry or ganking jungler. Clairvoyance is still viable for the support to take as well but it weakens your ability to skirmish within the lane. Ignite is a situational counter to champs like Dr. Mundo and Vladimir but I would not take it bot lane, because if you are ganked by a healing jungler you're better off just escaping than fighting, again all is situational. I'm just saying Ignite falls off tremendously after the laning phase.

Also I was only sticking p for movespeeed quints, not the other runes, because I strongly recommend out friend Heffyend change those crit chance runes (useless) to 9x greater mark of desolation, 9x Greater Seal of Armor, and 9x Greater Glyph of Scaling Magic Resist. You can't go wrong with that runeset for any AD champion.

One big problem I have is with the skill leveling in the builds. It makes me think that you have not played the champs properly. First off, Ashe should have e maxed first so the skill order would be weeq or eweq maxing e>w>q. Second, why would you pick q last on Ezreal? It should be qeqe or qeqw depending on if you even level up w since you dont need it early on. Caitlyn taking ewq doesnt make sense either since it should be qwqe or wqqe unless you want e for escaping enemy jungle ganks when you hit level 3 since the jungler can have red buff and be level 4 by then. Vayne and Corki are personal choices, but if you are going e on Caitlyn then I dont understand why you dont go w on Corki for the same escape purposes.

Next is the tier list and your thoughts on the characters.
1) Sivir does not have infinite mana if you dont get spell shield to activate. The main person that it works against is Caitlyn.
2) Graves is great early game, probably the absolute best at level 5 but he starts to fall off later in the game compared to other ranged ad.
3) You include Urgot but ignore everyone else. You even have a build you made that has Urgot being tanky and not following the same style of idea that you have in this guide. If you can include Urgot you can include Teemo and other champs

Personally, I think you do not need the crit chance runes and should instead go basic Ar Pen, Armor, MR with choice Quints. I agree that MS quints are good and I use them also, but they are only necessary on champs that focus on kiting more than others such as Ashe, Ezreal, Vayne.

Lifesteal should be included in the masteries, even though it may not be much, it is still better than having no lifesteal to heal yourself up slightly. The 1.5% damage increase is not really that good compared to the lifesteal bonus.

I like your item order, specifically rushing Infinity Edge, since it is the best choice. I like to grab Vampiric Scepter next then go for Phantom Dancer so then I can sustain myself since if the enemy isnt harassing, they fail. I personally do not like double Phantom Dancer since it does not increase dps by a large amount like the first one or the other items that you get. It gives good stats, but you would be better just getting defensive items or Last Whisper/ The Bloodthirster instead. You would think MS is good, but because of diminishing returns, you wont get as much MS, Crit Chance only needs to be ~50% to be effective, which is what you would get with only 1 Phantom Dancer, and AS increased will not help you in DPS as much as first one. It barely increases it, especially if you are a champ with a natural AS steriod like Tristana. It would be like choosing 7 attacks at 800 rather than 6 attacks at 1000 damage.

I believe there is a lot that you should fix. I completely agree with Kayle and Twisted Fate since they are both MUCH better in mid. AP TF >>> AD TF IMO and Mid Kayle >> Bot (ad or support) Kayle FACT.