Also I just wanted to say that with GP10 Quints I get Triforce, HoG and Philo stone in 24 min nearly exactly, when all I do is jungle. You have to take major buffs though :/

Probably with proper ganking and dragons it would be about the same or sooner if I just left the buffs like a proper jungle.

wait what?

You play him out of the jungle, solo top, and say he's OP, so I assume you're not talking about that and you're talking about in the jungle he won't have enough gold.

And I kind of beg to differ, you can see some of the calculations that GP10 give him plenty of gold. :P

I don't actually know, but Olaf is not good out of the jungle due to gold.

Now with even less gold he'll be even worse :P

Duff...i'm going to release a Junglelaf guide...

I'm thinking of using a really weird rune set up...

AS Reds (or Arpen or AD or w/e)
ATM it's armor seals but I THINK I might replace them with gold per 5 seals since he doesn't NEED armor to jungle
Mr/lvl Glyphs, cause everything else is terrible
Gold/5 Quints cause gold is op and he needs it more then anything

Masteries would be 0/12/18 and you can probably figure out what I take for yourself.

By the end of first clear you should have enough to boots + ca depending on what you started with (i'm also testing some new routes to make transition easier) or if you got a kill on your gank enough for HoG + boots.

By level 6 you should have enough for Philo Stone too (or if you didn't gank and just kept clearing you should have about 1500g) I know if you started with Ca + 5 you would be able to get Razor's right off the bat but I'd rather just go straight into Gp/5 then core items.

Assuming you start with those masteries, go Regrowth Pendant + 2HP start (haven't tested and it's all theorycraft anyways) clear full jungle then get a successful gank you should look something like this when you back:

300 for champion kill (+100 for FB)
Passive 13 GP10 (273)
7.25 GP10 from Runes & Masteries (152.25)
Jungle Clear 325 (Approx. I don't have hard numbers on this yet so estimation -_-)

Which means in total you should have 1050g on a level 4, 3:30 jungle time and a gank, without knowing just how long the gank takes to kill -_-

It's even more though with that factored in, although I really can't say **** about it since it varies from game to game ofc.

This also assumes GP/10 seals and Quints.

In any case what I wanted to say is that without doing any calculations, you would probably be able to get a Triforce about 22min in along with all of these other items, and I wondered when you got Warmogs on Solotop Olaf?

Because momma said so.



Thanks :)

To be honest I just don't think a champion who has a 1350 gold hard counter can ever be THAT viable :P (Warden's mail)

hey there Duff! I simply love the guides you come out with, they allow new players and players trying out new champions an error margin that's the size of Rebecca Black's dislike bar on Friday. But moving away from internet references I have a question with irelia. I've been playing with her for almost 6 months now and I notice how flexible she can be in her build. Recently, I've looked at leaguecraft for some builds and a long with mobafire to see if I could do some research. If you recall the time when irelia was listed as the Flavor of the month, Hotshotgg created this build for her:
Starter items:
Cloth 5HP pots

Summoners:
Ghost Ignite

Items:
Mercury treads, wriggles, Trinity, Heart of Gold( early), Spirit Visage, Wits End/Bloodthirster,

Runes:
Armorpen Quints+Reds, Flat Armor Yellow, Flat MR Blues

Would this still be a viable tanky dps build using 0/21/9 masteries? Please criticize away
(this is the link by the way to where I found this build http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=534111)

Hi Duffman,
Just read your singed guide and was wondering if you could explain in a bit more detail why RoA isn't as useful in 5v5s.

Ok, so I have another question, why should we drink our milk >.<?

Noooope I don't do reviews :P

Sorry, I have too much going on.

I can answer some questions if you'd like?

Duff, would you take your time to review someone's guide? (sorry if it was already asked, I'm just lazy to scan through 25 pages of comments @.@)

Well that's already being done by a lot of people, but the sheen probably won't do you as much good as a Zeal would.

The mana would be nice, it's not a bad buy.

Most people go Wriggle's -> Warmogg's.

Hey, i've read your Olaf guide and i think it's a very good item build and idea regarding solo top. I usually play GP Solo top, and building him almost the same way is very efficient, Wriggles early, throw in a sheen and it's pretty much the same. What do you think, should i try making a build & guide about it? What masteries/runes should i use then?

No hurry to answer ;)