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Counter picks against each individual champion (Out-of-date)

Slappiz Last updated on October 21, 2014
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Temzilla's Forum Avatar by Temzilla » February 1, 2012 4:37pm | Report

Xenasis wrote:

Flat MR blues, likely armour yellows as standard - possibly MR, ArP marks, AD/ArP quints depending on if you want to aim for early/late game

Combined with Q it can. Definitely.

Why would you ever want to max your W? It's used for escapes/setting up ganks. I used it as a comparison as to how easily Lee can escape ganks compared to Akali, especially when Lee is in the lane, Akali doesn't even have stealth.

Not sure if serious

Q would like to say hello, too. You fail to take into account the fact that even though it is a larger range, Akali doesn't take on a 1x1 range square. You WILL hit her if you're in the middle.

You forget Q. This also relies on Lee having absolutely no prior knowledge of where Akali was as she went into the shroud, which never happens. Also as I mentioned before, Akali isn't a 1x1 range square, nor does anyone have instant reactions.

Irrelevant. Skillshots aren't an argument against a champion. Galio counters Kass mid. He out-duels Kass, has a better mid game, though Galio's abilities are all easily avoidable, Kass' aren't. I'd also like to see Akali dodge a Q at point blanc range, too.

Mercury Treads, Warmogs will definitely suffice. Counters to burst are health and resistance. Not just resistance. Lee ALWAYS builds Warmogs anyway.

In a perfect world where you never die this argument may be valid. If 5 oracle users die, you lose 2k gold, and likely the game because of that throw away, when your support (or jungler) buys Oracles for its main purpose, ward clearance, anyway. Both of which are underfarmed and die easily.

You're not even counterpicking for the E, she's outlaned by Lee, that's just an added bonus.



I don't know, i just think that Q can be dodged/creep blocked, and that Lee Sin relies too heavily on Q, and hopes that akali doesn't start the game with 65 armor.

Is Q+AA+Q+AA for akali, versus Lee Sin: Q projectile+Q leap+AA+AA a good comparison?


Tri lane for life.
Temzilla's Forum Avatar by Temzilla » February 1, 2012 5:38pm | Report

VOTED +1

Didn't really want to down vote the guide itself, was just making a point.


Tri lane for life.
slydunan's Forum Avatar by slydunan » February 1, 2012 6:56pm | Report

VOTED +1

I like the idea, but a whole lot of the information is wrong or not useful.
I would focus the guide around the current meta dte late game etc.

Therefore, I suggest making at least two categories: laning counters (in a theoretical meta where its solo top, solo mid, dual bot, jungle) and general counters.
Using this method, although janna wouldnt counter amumu in lane or jungle, she is still a general counter.

And as I said before, I noticed a lot of mistakes or missing counters.
Cassiopeia- kennen counters as well. She is also about even with brand if not stronger, depending on skill level.
Irelia- All those listed do not counter irelia in lane. In fact, the only two heroes that come close to countering irelia is tiger udyr and olaf. However, general counters for her is anyone with suppression.


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Eternal Void's Forum Avatar by Eternal Void » February 1, 2012 9:49pm | Report

Oh Thats what i was waiting for so long. You absolutely have to find out and put in how to counter Rumble (He is so impossible to handle top if he is good at least a little)


Slappiz's Forum Avatar by Slappiz » February 1, 2012 10:09pm | Report

slydunan wrote:

I like the idea, but a whole lot of the information is wrong or not useful.
I would focus the guide around the current meta dte late game etc.

Therefore, I suggest making at least two categories: laning counters (in a theoretical meta where its solo top, solo mid, dual bot, jungle) and general counters.
Using this method, although janna wouldnt counter amumu in lane or jungle, she is still a general counter.

And as I said before, I noticed a lot of mistakes or missing counters.
Cassiopeia- kennen counters as well. She is also about even with brand if not stronger, depending on skill level.
Irelia- All those listed do not counter irelia in lane. In fact, the only two heroes that come close to countering irelia is tiger udyr and olaf. However, general counters for her is anyone with suppression.


About Kennen countering Cassio im not sure, I play duo ranked with a really good Casssio player and I've never seen him have any problems with Kennen.

I was thinking of those categories, but it's nothing that I'll prioritize atm.

I'll see what I can do about Irelia.


Acid Reigns's Forum Avatar by Acid Reigns » February 1, 2012 10:54pm | Report

GP should be added to both Morgana, and Kassadin for counters. They're both anti mages, that rely on a strong CC during exchanges. GP does phys damage, and can W out of cc. Now thinking about it, a well played Sivir could have the same effect as well. Though I doubt it would be as effective.

He beats Nasus pretty hard too, due to being able to shed wither.

Also, Sion is good against Nidalee in lane. He has his stun to slow down her insane mobility, and his shield is good against her spear.


Sunli Min's Forum Avatar by Sunli Min » February 2, 2012 12:16am | Report

VOTED +1

Really good work, keep it up!


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Sunli Min's Forum Avatar by Sunli Min » February 2, 2012 12:18am | Report

oh and for Renekton, I would add Pantheon and Riven. I find on him Panth is the biggest counter of all, next is GP then Riven.


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Sunli Min's Forum Avatar by Sunli Min » February 2, 2012 12:20am | Report

slydunan wrote:

I like the idea, but a whole lot of the information is wrong or not useful.
I would focus the guide around the current meta dte late game etc.

Therefore, I suggest making at least two categories: laning counters (in a theoretical meta where its solo top, solo mid, dual bot, jungle) and general counters.
Using this method, although janna wouldnt counter amumu in lane or jungle, she is still a general counter.

And as I said before, I noticed a lot of mistakes or missing counters.
Cassiopeia- kennen counters as well. She is also about even with brand if not stronger, depending on skill level.
Irelia- All those listed do not counter irelia in lane. In fact, the only two heroes that come close to countering irelia is tiger udyr and olaf. However, general counters for her is anyone with suppression.


In lane Cass>Kennen, I know because I play them both. But it is a close matchup.

As for Irelia, yes Garen and the others do counter her. She can still lane without feeding but they deny her and keep her down, there for counter her. They make it so she cant go for a lasthit without paying the price


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Slappiz's Forum Avatar by Slappiz » February 2, 2012 12:33am | Report

Sunli Min wrote:

oh and for Renekton, I would add Pantheon and Riven. I find on him Panth is the biggest counter of all, next is GP then Riven.


Thx, I'll add them.


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