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Bot Lane Combinations - Support and AD synergy

JAYZORZ Last updated on June 14, 2013
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JungleKing's Forum Avatar by JungleKing » August 6, 2012 10:10am | Report

This my man.. is wonderful! When I first came to mobafire, I was new to LoL and I knew nothing about the meta. Heck, even now when I know it, usually my teammates just want the ad carry, no one wants the support or tank. this will hopefully teach newer players what combos are nice for bot lane and so, they can know what to expect from their support.

Solid +1

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JungleKing's Forum Avatar by JungleKing » August 6, 2012 10:11am | Report

VOTED +1

and like an idiot i commented before voting :p


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Xenotechie's Forum Avatar by Xenotechie » August 6, 2012 10:26am | Report

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The site really needed something like this, but you need some more lane combos. Taric+ Tristana is a great burst lane, and Graves+ Soraka is a potent poke+farm lane. Consider also adding info how to counter lane combinations.

BTW, you have messed up some BBcoding in the Urgot+ Janna combo. It's Hyper-Kinetic Position Reverse, not Hyper-Kinetic Position Reverser.


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Valkenhyn's Forum Avatar by Valkenhyn » August 6, 2012 10:40am | Report

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looks good, but lulu definitely deserves a mention and kayle could use one too


The Dong's Forum Avatar by The Dong » August 6, 2012 11:25am | Report

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Good information. I usually do a bot duo and Draven + Alistar is easily one of my favorites.

The only combo I'd prefer over that is Tristana + Lulu. Good burst and hard to counter with both Tristana and Lulu being able to escape most situations without a struggle.

JAYZORZ's Forum Avatar by JAYZORZ » August 6, 2012 11:21pm | Report

Thanks guys for the reviews, this is still kind of a work in progress and I will be adding a lot more combinations, I just wanted to get a basis done for people. Also, as I said in the summary, post details about a combo and why it is good and I will give you the credits and add it in the guide, so please feel free to do that.

P.S. I rarely play Twitch, Kayle, Zilean or Lulu for some reason.

P.P.S Thanks for the correction of my BBCode, I write all of the abilities off memory and I can't always remember the exact name huehue.

Xenotechie's Forum Avatar by Xenotechie » August 7, 2012 3:52am | Report

JAYZORZ wrote:

Thanks guys for the reviews, this is still kind of a work in progress and I will be adding a lot more combinations, I just wanted to get a basis done for people. Also, as I said in the summary, post details about a combo and why it is good and I will give you the credits and add it in the guide, so please feel free to do that.

P.S. I rarely play Twitch, Kayle, Zilean or Lulu for some reason.

P.P.S Thanks for the correction of my BBCode, I write all of the abilities off memory and I can't always remember the exact name huehue.


Ok, explanations:

Taric+ Tristana: Great for getting early kills. As soon as she gets her Rocket Jump and Explosive Shot, the lane can pretty much go in for a kill. Taric initiates with Dazzle and Shatter while Tristana is getting off as much damage as possible via autoattacks. As soon as the stun ends, Tristana should land her Rocket Jump and Explosive Shot, then both of the laners should try to finish off what's left of the carry, possibly with ignite. Level 3 gives even more power with Rapid Fire, and at level 6, Buster Shot should be able to kill most carries with relative ease. Of course, Tristana can always initiate with Rocket Jump, but it's better for you to take the bulk of the minion damage. At any rate, this combo will do at least 280 magic damage at level 2, and at level 6, with the two ultimates, a whopping 910 magic damage, and that's without any auto attacks. With them, this is more than enough for a kill.

The weakness of this lane is it's difficulty. A poorly-executed combo will, at the very least, cost Tristana a LOT of mana, and at worst, end up in a double kill. This requires a lot of coordination between the laners. Of course, this strategy is also weak to champions with peeling capabilities, like Nunu, or, more importantly, Alistar. While the lane is still very possible with these, it requires additional coordination in attacking between their cooldowns.

Safety of this lane is very strong, with Tristana having a fantastic escape and Taric having a stun and an armor aura. This is true until a kill-combo is started, in which case only the armor aura remains.


Graves+ Soraka: This is widely considered by the community to be THE farming lane, and it's easy to see why. Soraka is, well, the queen of sustain, and Graves is known for his good early game...and mid game... and late game (but not the best at all of them, at least not since the nerfs). The goal of this lane is to deflect any aggression and give tons of CS to Graves, so he owns your team later-on. Thanks to Graves' bukkake Buckshot, this is not hard at all. Thanks to the range of that bloody thing, it is also good for harassment. A smart Graves will also (ab)use his passive by hitting minions, meaning that he will have 10 extra resistances if you try to engage. But wait, that's not all! He has two fantastic escapes / engaging abilities in the form of Smokescreen and Quickdraw. And Soraka... yeah. This lane is fairly easy to do, and it's safety is unparalleled.

So, what's are it's weaknesses? Some combination combination of healing reduction, powerful harassment, high armor, heals, and smart aggression. You just can't outsustain this lane, and this is one of the rare lanes in which Soraka CAN win a straight-up fight, so zoning out is not easy either. Now, healing reduction will enable you to be able to harass this lane and actually do some damage, armor block all of Graves' damage, but the most effective of all of these is smart aggression. Graves comes with rather long cooldowns, as does Soraka. Forcing them to use their abilities leaves the lane open for aggression which can result in a kill and Graves losing a lot of CS. The best way to do this is faking aggression with a lane combo that can actually kill them.

Enter Taric + Tristana. This lane has ALL of the things I mentioned. Tristana can harass with Explosive Shot, until the time is right to go full on with aggression. Taric provides both high armor, heals, and a lot of killing potential. Also, the lane can scare the **** out of the Graves + Soraka lane by using either Dazzle or, less prefferably, Rocket Jump. This can be even further amplified with some psychology, making the enemy think you are even stronger than you are. This is the only lane combo which can actually zone them out.

Other possible options are Miss Fortune, with her heal-reducing harassment and her harassment in general, Sivir, who can turn Graves' Buckshot into free mana and harass with Ricochet, and Alistar, with his CC and the ability to mess up last hitting.

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guilinesPT's Forum Avatar by guilinesPT » August 8, 2012 11:31am | Report

VOTED +1

Nice job i use it a lot! U should PM some ppl to get more votes because it deserves more rating.

P.S: i will tell you about some other good combos later


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JAYZORZ's Forum Avatar by JAYZORZ » August 8, 2012 9:32pm | Report

Thanks for all your reviews guys, I am currently adding some more lane comps. Soon, I will add a counter-combo section, or I will just add two lines at the end saying

Counters combo: First Blood Approaches (Draven + Alistar)
Countered by: Counter Carry Poke Lane (Ezreal + Nunu)

Leave some replies saying which you think is better. Also, share it with any friends that you think might like it, and upvote if you do. It helps others to see it and it may help them too.

Thanks guys,
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DanChe's Forum Avatar by DanChe » August 9, 2012 2:41am | Report

Tristana alistar is a good combo. If they are on the blue side, they can pick up twin golems, push lane a bit, and hit level 2 before the enemy does. With this, tristana has her e-w and alistar has q-w, and combined with some auto attacks and ignite, it is an easy first blood.


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