Ok, I see that NoobyPower has really started wasting favors and efforts. Now I shall explain man, 1 question after another:

1Q."This is when you are fully engaging though...how will you out harass me?"
1A.So far I haven't faced any tristana opposing me, but for example Kog'Maw or Vayne, I found them easy to harrass and push. How?

Use Draw a Bead. My premade Soraka puts a ward in a jungle bush (necessary) and in enemy bot bush (So I see them hiding). Hit them once, back off a tiny bit, hit again and repeat. This way you force them to stay behind minions allowing me to farm, and Draw a Bead is very useful here even on early levels. That might not work vs Caitlyn but luckily I haven't seen her for ages.

The engaging bit is easy, I take the advantage of having a jungler come (preferably Udyr), he stuns, the support uses silence/stun, and then I jump in with my exhaust and do autoattacks with Rapid Fire (eventually E as well). GUARANTEED that even if they use flash they cannot escape, because I allowed them to push before. This is what it looked like so far,

2Q."Lets say you are fighting another trist and its 1v1. How do you plan to deal 4+ seconds worth of damage?"

2A. Ok, did I mention that when I have 1vs1 solos, I play AP Tristana? Seriously, you need to try AP Tristana once, you cannot say that 1,5k dmg on Buster Shot is not worth it. But going back to your question, I never faced any opposing Tristana, nor fought anyone solo (gotta stick to the team), So unfortunately I can't answer that.

REMEMBER , That with cooldown reduction you chase significantly better with Rocket Jump. That's way better than having late Phantom Dancer which won't even let you go through walls. 8 sec cooldown on Rocket Jump is way better than having 423 speed over land.

I realise, that NoobyPower is trying to help me out with Tristana builds, and items etc. However.

A) No one ever complained on my build/guide except for you two.
B) I win 90% of the ranked games my way.
C) I am always fed (17/3/9).

You have your ways, I have mine. No need for arguing. Why bother then?

NoobyPower has called in a favor and sent me to assist your trist...not sure why he would waste a favor on that but whatevers.

First lets get the totally obvious bad things out of the way.

1. Greater Glyph of Intellect is a waste of your blue slots. Most would go flat MR.
2. Ionian Boots of Lucidity is a bad item on trist and even if it wasn't it does not match your builds objective which from what I can see is sacrificing early game for an attempt at a better mid game (this SHOULD fail and ill explain later)
3. Masteries do not match objective either. You would not get Sorcery or Arcane Knowledge.
4. Skill order does not match your idea to max out rapid fire. You should have it maxed out at lvl9 instead of lvl10 not saying its a good idea to max out rapidfire early but thats the direction your build has taken.

Everything noobypower stated is correct though I wouldnt say rapid fire was USELESS early just not optimal.

Before I comment on your comment know that I have not only tested any skill order you could think of but I have also ran the numbers for it.



I agree that rapid fire is a must have however it is not needed early. Lets talk about your early game which is important because good early game makes for a better mid game even without maxed out Q. At lvl5 you are 3/1/1/0, where the optimal trist build would be 0/3/2/0. It is true that 1v1 on paper you will do more dmg here but only after you successfully hit the target for 4 seconds with your rapid fire buff (that includes landing both lvl1 W and E). How will you accomplish this against a competent player? In the case of a player with a champ with low cooldowns you may face a 2nd cycle of abilities but lets not get into that. Lets say you are fighting another trist and its 1v1. How do you plan to deal 4+ seconds worth of damage? I see the Q I am going to get back and you would waste 80 mana. The only way I could think of is jumping in then exhausting but then depending on positioning and minions those 3 extra seconds of Q may not be worth it. Thats not even factoring me using my summoner spells.


This is when you are fully engaging though...how will you out harass me? My W+E is 140 (yours is 130) mana and hits harder, 98 dmg harder than yours assuming typical armor/resist values (not even counting the additional 75 dmg diff if I happen to kill someone to reset the rocket jump cooldown). Everytime you fail to use over 4 seconds of Q you waste 80 mana. Chances are high that you will not get kills on me and I will out harass you bringing down your minion kill count.

If you manage to keep up with your minion kills and I dont get more kills than you then yes your mid game would be a bit stronger for a few levels again depending on how much of your rapid fire you land.

Forget about cooldown reduction and forget about Attack damage marks

I tried Nashor's Tooth on Tristana. I highly recommend this item, whether you play ad tristana ( but make ad item first!) or pure AP Tristana. That way you will not only increase your cdr to 40%, meaning that your Buster Shot will have about 30 seconds cooldown, but you also increase your abilities damage, such as Explosive Shot (dmg + 100% AP Ratio). That makes Nashor's Tooth worth it. And you have AS from Rapid Fire anyway.

I don't mean to disagree with you. I just have a question regarding your guide:
You said Ionian Boots of Lucidity is good for CDR, and I agree with it. But I just come up with an item: Nashor's Tooth. Is Nashor's Tooth viable for trist? It has CDR and AS boost...

Wow very well written guide.

Amazing Build

Tried it. I thought Explosive shoot is necessary. seems like Q and W are just enough, ty :).

First of all, did you try the build? I didn't write this because I think it will work on Trist, I wrote3 because it works on Tristana. Why do you mention explosive shot when I don't really use it?

Second, the Rapid Fire. I tried 3-5 different Tristana builds, even the AP Tristana one which I found on Youtube (works perfectly when uyou mid with Trist). Rapid Fire my friend, is a must be when u play ad carry.

a) You can use skills once per 10-20 seconds. autoattacks with Rapid Fire will deal 3-4 x more dmg than a combination of these skills. + we want to be a good pusher as well.

b) It guarantees a kill in 1vs1. And it makes you deal more damage per second. Think about + 90% attack speed for 7 seconds (my Q has 8 seconds cooldown).

You said " I do not recommend taking any points in Rapid Fire until you at least have a Pickaxe or a B. F. Sword. Putting points into it is useless until then."

Although it shows that I use marks of penetration, I actually use the marks of damage. So at lvl 1 I have 71 AD. This allows me to do huge dmg at the beggining rather than with Rocket Jump

And don't use Explosive Shot. It is useless except for fiddle or Mundo.

Once again, try this build yourself. I never ran out of mana yet to be honest. Maybe you just use your skills too much, I don't know.

Firstly, I do not recommend taking any points in Rapid Fire until you at least have a Pickaxe or a B. F. Sword. Putting points into it is useless until then.

Ionian Boots of Lucidity aren't a good choice on Tristana. You shouldn't be spamming your skills. Also, she's mana hungry, spamming skills will make you vulnerable to running out of mana, therefore not having enough mana to use Rocket Jump in a dire situation. And besides, if you want Rocket Jump off cooldown faster, just rank it up.

Buying Rabadon's Deathcap is an absolute no-no. Other than early game, you should not be using your skils for damage. Using them apart from early game is guaranteed to get you killed (ie. low range on Explosive Shot compared to auto-attacks, and jumping into enemies with Rocket Jump). Plus, the benfits Rabadon's Deathcap gives you is pale in comparison to keeping a Phantom Dancer.

Zeke's Harbinger is alright, but really, you should be asking someone else on the team to buy it. As an AD carry, you cannot afford to use up item slots for the sake of supporting your team, leave it to the off-tank or whoever else can use it. I would recommend replacing Zeke's Harbinger with a defensive item, since this build lacks defense, and once you get caught by your enemie,s you're screwed. Conider replacing it with Banshee's Veil, Guardian Angel or Quicksilver Sash.

Greater Glyph of Mana isn't going to help very much, because it is essentially two extra rank 1 Explosive Shots or another Rocket Jump. I don't think the benefits from having these runes outmatch having some other runes such as Greater Glyph of Magic Resist / Greater Glyph of Scaling Magic Resist.

That's all I have to say for now. There are too many things wrong with this guide for me to upvote it. I won't be downvoting either, since I think downvotes are pointless.