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Liking the build, needs some modification in your items but so far looking good. Keep it up

I tryes to jungle with Hecarim a lot of times and found the only one succesful way how to do so: maxing W first. You need that sustainibility for being able to finish jungle and gank after reaching level 4. Maxing Q isnt't effective at all in jungle while it doesn only 50% of damage and while it gives you no sustainibility.

Now, Black Cleaver... Dude, do NOT build this item against tanks for saken god. This is item to take down squishies and generaly targets which have not more then 100-150 armor. If there are more enemies with bigger armor then about 140-150, build last whisper because black cleaver stops being profitable enough.

Really bad guide, your builts have max 110 magic res. Hacarim jungle is weak and without ghost, he sux.

Really bad guide, your builts have max 110 magic res. Jungle Hacarim is weak and 4th built? Hacarim without ghost, no thx.

+ I'm a big fan of tips and tricks about skills!
+ Looks decent.
+ Good jungling explanation.

- One cheat sheet will suffice.
- Update your skill order, max 1 skill, then another, then the last one. Now it seems as if you just randomly put a point in a skill.
- Your first cheat sheet has an unfinished build.
- Could use some info about teamfights (where should you be, who should you focus, etc).
- Some spelling/grammar issues and also some BBCoding is off, but I think that is going wrong in the Database... dunno, look at the rune section for example.

Enough tips for now, over to my ratings:

Appearance: 7/10
Cheat Sheet: 5/10
Contents: 7/10

An overall 6,3, congrats with your upvote :)

Great guide, really well laid out with a lot of good info.

[Update from last post]
Tried out the on hit. Definetly something different, when it get s going it definetly gets going. Good jobb on the new idea and changes to the guide keep em coming

I'd say add a chapter about where you explain Masteries, and change the chapter order. Imagine what you do first when you are considering to play a champ; first you set runes/masteries, then you pick summoner spells, then you worry about items and later on you can talk about jungling routes, teamfights and what not.

Good luck :)

P.S. I came here because of your thread on the Build & Guide discussion ;)

Not voting on this yet. You should improve your build a bit

That really doesnt help. Constructive criticism would be helpful not. just mediocre. Where is it mediocre.