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Fiora - The Definitely Deadly Duelist

Jpikachu1999 Last updated on April 13, 2012
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by Vitigam » March 18, 2012 7:47pm | Report




Hello! Thanks for reviewing me, I'll check out your guide as soon as possible.

The problem with Infinity Edge is that it's just so expensive. The other problem I have, is that I don't exploit crit chance enough for it to be worth it. I know many people build carries as crit happy maniacs these days, but you would be surprised how much Fiora can do with this build.

There are 2 items that are as expensive or nearly expensive as Infinity Edge I would take instead. Trinity Force (replace Frozen Mallet), and Madred's Bloodrazor. Since I don't exploit critical chance (you can see I usually get 18% from Atma's Impaler, which I don't always buy), there are other items that are better for my build.

On the topic of cost, my build is centered around being fairly cheap and easy to buy. All the builds (except for the glasscanon which I just put in there for people who are convinced tanky DPS is bad) are designed to be fairly cost efficient, meaning they are usually in the 12 - 14 thousand gold range. The good thing is that tanky DPS items, or hybrid items, such as Wit's End, Atma's Impaler, and Frozen Mallet are extremely cost efficient in their stats.

Also, The Black Cleaver gives me armor reduction. Usually for my pure offensive item, I like some sort of armor pen/reduction (not a big fan of Last Whisper though).

I might as well mention this, but I think I'm going to probably be switching The Black Cleavers into Youmuu's Ghostblades. It makes for a much smoother transition into mid/late game, as you can build an early The Brutalizer. I don't push lanes or harass too much, but the thing is, I have trouble being able to consistently get that 1650 gold early game without like 3 kills.

Thanks for reviewing me and voting, and I'll check on your guide (or if you have multiple, one of them) and comment on them!

P.S.

I know I just wrote a ton of text to one simple little post. I do that sometimes >.<, so forgive me if you expected one paragraph.





Cool, that makes sense. Yeah IE is very expensive. I don't play AD carry that much, only when someone that interests me is free 2 play.


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by Jpikachu1999 » March 18, 2012 8:26pm | Report

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Same **** happened to me went from 72% to 61%. This is an attempt by someone to get us down im sure. Luckily Minkey has so many votes it didnt touch him. It is whatever I can just copy and paste my guide into a brand new one and start over lol.


I'd recommend not starting over, as the same thing probably will happen again. Trolls are gonna be trolls, we just gotta deal with them. Besides, if we get as many votes as Minkey gets, then a spree of 5 downvotes will barely touch us lol. I'm just gonna hang tight, as I'm sure people will eventually find our guides and upvote them.

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I'm glad that I answered your question. As you can see, most of the items in the glasscannon build aren't even in the situational items. The reason for this is the fact that there are so many other better items than the ones in the glasscannon build, however, that build is still shown for people who are convinced tanky DPS is bad.



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by Minkey » March 19, 2012 1:18am | Report




I'd recommend not starting over, as the same thing probably will happen again. Trolls are gonna be trolls, we just gotta deal with them. Besides, if we get as many votes as Minkey gets, then a spree of 5 downvotes will barely touch us lol. I'm just gonna hang tight, as I'm sure people will eventually find our guides and upvote them.

@Vitigam

I'm glad that I answered your question. As you can see, most of the items in the glasscannon build aren't even in the situational items. The reason for this is the fact that there are so many other better items than the ones in the glasscannon build, however, that build is still shown for people who are convinced tanky DPS is bad.


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by jhoijhoi » March 19, 2012 2:08am | Report

Hi, I'm reviewing your guide based upon your request for a trade at jhoijhoi's review shop. For my review I would like it if you could take a look at any one of my guides and leave a comment and/or shoot me some love via a +rep. Thank you in advance.



Cheat Sheet 1 (the only cheat sheet I'll ever read. When you write guides for MobaFire, write them with the idea that new members will not click those boxes):
- Summoners, runes, skill order = fine
- You don't have much health, so I question the Atma's Impaler.
- Masteries: I'd definitely grab the life steal in the offense tree over the health bonus, but that's just personal preference.

Summoner Spells:
- No need to list useless summoner spells. Personal preference.

Skill Sequence and Explanation:
- The blue text is incredibly hard to read.
- Are you sure about the Lunge no damage glitch? I've never heard of it.
- I wish there was more information about what the skill does written in your own words.

Jungling:
- Can't see the numbers or the warding images or the text on your Jungle Route map.

Your guide is full of information, but it's not very attractive. I'd definitely try adding more formatting and coding to make your guides look more aesthetically pleasing.

Great guide though, I learnt a few things reading through it.

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by Jpikachu1999 » March 19, 2012 7:47am | Report

jhoijhoi wrote:

Hi, I'm reviewing your guide based upon your request for a trade at jhoijhoi's review shop. For my review I would like it if you could take a look at any one of my guides and leave a comment and/or shoot me some love via a +rep. Thank you in advance.



Cheat Sheet 1 (the only cheat sheet I'll ever read. When you write guides for MobaFire, write them with the idea that new members will not click those boxes):
- Summoners, runes, skill order = fine
- You don't have much health, so I question the Atma's Impaler.
- Masteries: I'd definitely grab the life steal in the offense tree over the health bonus, but that's just personal preference.

Summoner Spells:
- No need to list useless summoner spells. Personal preference.

Skill Sequence and Explanation:
- The blue text is incredibly hard to read.
- Are you sure about the Lunge no damage glitch? I've never heard of it.
- I wish there was more information about what the skill does written in your own words.

Jungling:
- Can't see the numbers or the warding images or the text on your Jungle Route map.

Your guide is full of information, but it's not very attractive. I'd definitely try adding more formatting and coding to make your guides look more aesthetically pleasing.

Great guide though, I learnt a few things reading through it.

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First off, thanks for reviewing me! I'll definitely add some changes to my guide.

I figured you would ignore the other cheat sheets, I just put them all in there for the people who never look at the guide and only the cheat sheets. They are also there for quick reference.

I also have the builds listed in the guide, so it shouldn't be too hard to find the builds even if you don't click the different cheat sheets. The different build have some different runes though.

EDIT: The Atma's Impaler is situational. I usually don't get it actually, as I prefer more lifesteal such as The Bloodthirster, or more defense such as Guardian Angel. It is definitely viable with that build though. I even have math later on in the guide showing that it gives me 54 AD. Coupled with FM's 20 AD, I get 74 AD from Fratma's. It basically gives me a Chain Vest, Cloak of Agility, and B. F. Sword, for 2335 gold.

I listed the useless ones, because some people below 30 might think they are good. Trust me, when I was level 8 - 12, I though Promote and Clarity were some of the best spells ever. I know better now, but it's just to be on the safe side for newer players.

I'll change the blue text. Yes, I am sure about the glitch, I've done it many times myself. It doesn't always happen, but I've been able to reproduce it fairly frequently. I thought I did a pretty good job rewriting the skills D: I'll see what I can do to change them.

Really? I can see them perfectly in my viewer, and when I look at the picture in my guide. I'll try switching around the colors a bit to make them more noticeable. I made those at like 2:00 AM last night, so ... yeah.

I'm planning on adding more pictures and videos to the guide, as of right now, I don't really have any useable footage. It may be a little on the texty side, but I tried not to have too many walls of text. I'll see what I can do to try and add more BBCode.

I'll implement the things you have suggested, and I'll continue to get more information to update the guide. I'm glad you learned some stuff, and again, thank you for the review!




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Concerning the nerfs to lifesteal, I may replace Wriggle's Lantern in my builds, depending on how heavily it gets nerfed. Also, The Bloodthirster may become more prevalent in my builds, for the simple fact that you don't lose all your stacks on death.

Basically, depending on how much they nerf the major lifesteal items, this guide may change pretty drastically. Not as drastically as glasscannon mind you, but still, it will be a pretty big impact.



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by IceCreamy » March 19, 2012 1:51pm | Report

+ Good use of BBCoding, making your guide look good
+ Great in-depth

- Could use columns
- CDR Build seems terrible to me
- Usually Last Whisper > The Black Cleaver and with that AD Marks/Quints > ArPen Marks/Quints
- First the item section, then the starting item section?

Well so far my tips, now over to the ratings:

Appearance: 7/10
Cheat Sheet: 8/10
Contents: 8/10

Leaving you with an overall 7,7! Congratulations with your upvote! :)




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by Jpikachu1999 » March 19, 2012 2:42pm | Report

IceCreamy wrote:

+ Good use of BBCoding, making your guide look good
+ Great in-depth

- Could use columns
- CDR Build seems terrible to me
- Usually Last Whisper > The Black Cleaver and with that AD Marks/Quints > ArPen Marks/Quints
- First the item section, then the starting item section?

Well so far my tips, now over to the ratings:

Appearance: 7/10
Cheat Sheet: 8/10
Contents: 8/10

Leaving you with an overall 7,7! Congratulations with your upvote! :)



I suppose I could switch the starting items and items around, I just kinda listed the situational items first, so that people could get an idea of their complete build. I then added the starting items so that people could look at the pros/cons when picking their first item(s), because generally you will have your final build planned out, but need to decide on the starting item depending on the situation.

The whole starting items section uses columns. I don't know, I'm not a big fan of columns since they always mess up on me. Especially when entering information, but I suppose I could try.

I feel like Last Whisper is inferior to The Black Cleaver. Unless the enemy is stacking above 130~ armor, I like TBC. Here are my reasons:
  • TBC gives AS and more damage than LW
  • With ArPen marks/quints/ Sunder , you penetrate about 80~ armor at full stacks with TBC. It's not hard to apply stacks with Fiora, as her Lunge applies them, and she has a gigantic AS steroid.
  • For 600 gold more, you can get TBC, which has more AD than LW, and has AS.
  • Also, generally, unless you buy a third situational item that has AS, Fiora only needs 2 AS items to be at around 2.4 AS with her Burst of Speed activated.

I figured I would eventually get some hate for the CDR build. The thing is, there are usually two types of builds for Fiora nowadays. Tanky DPS and glasscannon. The amazing thing about the Max CDR build, is that it combines a little of both! Because of Spirit Visage you can build more offensive with your lifesteal as it becomes amplified even more. It also allows you to be a little squishier, because your ultimate (you know, the one that makes you invulnerable for like 3 seconds?) is up about every minute!

That build is probably better with Trinity Force as it allows you to have more burst damage. Trust me, being able to block 1 basic attack every 3.5 seconds usually means death to carries. Also, your double Lunge is up every 4.5 seconds, and your Burst of Speed is ever 6 seconds. It might seem unusual, but it actually works pretty well.

I'm not a fan of AD Marks/Quints. I just prefer the ArPen, because then I don't have to build any until later in the game. Plus, it allows me to get away with stuff like The Black Cleaver because them I'm having 45 Armor reduction + 31 ArPen, which is pretty decent. I added AD Marks as another viable option based on your comment.

I'm working on the appearance still, cause you and Jhoijhoi told me to >.> <.<

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by IceCreamy » March 19, 2012 2:50pm | Report

Yeah columns are not easy, maybe I should write a guide to that. I know I struggled a lot with them at the beginning...

Well I understand your points, and since I don't play Fiora myself I will trust you in this :) Please PM me or re-request at my review shop when you are done with whatever you want to change, so I can re-review and change my rating :) Have fun, good luck ^^




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by Jpikachu1999 » March 19, 2012 2:57pm | Report

IceCreamy wrote:

Yeah columns are not easy, maybe I should write a guide to that. I know I struggled a lot with them at the beginning...

Well I understand your points, and since I don't play Fiora myself I will trust you in this :) Please PM me or re-request at my review shop when you are done with whatever you want to change, so I can re-review and change my rating :) Have fun, good luck ^^


Also, another thing I forgot to mention about the Max CDR build.

I understand it's not most people's playstyle. It is very unorthodox, and very unexpected. However, with the next patch bringing nerfs to most of the lifesteal items, it is useful to have Spirit Visage to boost them back up. Depending on how much they nerf The Bloodthirster and Wriggle's Lantern (which I'm expecting quite a bit, since they are nerfing Vampiric Scepter as well) then the Spirit Visage will greatly increase your survivability.

I'll repost on your review thread when I finish the changes I wanted to make. It may be a while though, as I am busy with life and also I am planning a LOT of stuff to add.



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by clydefrog » March 19, 2012 6:00pm | Report

Nice builds and guide

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