Well built, though out, written and laid out. Working build with many different angles covered. For a playstyle that slightly differs from mine, this might be one of the very best builds out here :) +1

I play alot of 3v3 and this guide is fantastic for it. I tried a few games of 5v5 and had good success

Don't have em, and I'm just about to buy Brand with IP. After that Ill pick them up and try it.

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Amazing guide. I quit Garen after the judgment nerf (I know, I'm so unfaithful)
I had a look at your guide, tried it out, and I have carried EVERY game (something like 20, and 9 of them were ranked)
Needless to say, I am playing Garen a lot again ^_^

However, if I may make a suggestion, I would look into switching your ArP marks for attack speed. I was doing that because I didn't have enough IP to buy ArP marks so I just used AS marks, but when I switched I found myself doing slightly worse. I think the boost in attack speed is pretty important on Garen, especially early game where he dominates . The armor pen isn't really needed because nobody has a ton of armor level 1-6 anyways. Personal preference maybe, but consider it?

LOL. Expert Garen players need a guide? There are a few different ways to build Garen, I present here a stepping stone to understanding the character. Here's a hint: you waste gold building a Trinity Force on him.

its a good guide for some beginner garen players, but not for veteran or expert garen players.

hey i'm just reply to your post on my garen build

i had a good look at your guide, and it is more descriptive

but

the item selection is not as good as it can be

and isn't that what we're all here for?

TY for this build i am IMBA with it 5 wins in a row from the first time i try ur build...and avarage stats allways are around 15-22 kill 2-3 dyes..BESt BUILD

Judgment only procs crit. Judgment is considered an ability, and the Madred's Bloodrazor passive is only applied to auto-attacks. Tested it in a custom vs. Udyr. Did 1 spin-to-win and with knowing his armor and my armor pen, I was able to calculate (without considering the Madred's passive) the amount of damage he was going to take (within 5hp) that he actually took. So no, Judgment does not proc the Madred's Bloodrazor passive.

I don't pick up a Trinity Force on Garen for a few reasons:

• Garen doesn't use mana, and ability power does nothing for any of his abilities. Therefore, even though the Sheen passive is amazing, its not worth losing the gold and item slot.
• Trinity Force is really expensive, and the money can be used to buy other things that are necessary on Garen including the Frozen Mallet or the Last Whisper/ Infinity Edge.
• I'm trying to focus on Movement Speed, CDR, Health, Damage, and Armor Penetration for this build. Trinity Force is not as efficient as other items for these stats.

A great guide. Garen was the first champ I ever played and I went 7-0-4 in my first game so I have a soft spot for him. Curious about a couple of things though mostly to do with judgement but first off, curious why you dont have trinity on your list of items since its a staple item for low attack speed, high damage dealers? (like poppy for instance)

Second question is, judgement doesnt proc but is it calulated as 2 hits per second to surrounding unit or as flat aoe damage? Because in the first case wouldnt Madreds Razor be a crazy op item for him? Do you know if that would work and/or a way it could be tested?

His ult uses magic pen, 15% magic pen is a huge load of added damage and a lot more reliable ult.

Heh. I could say the same to you. I know from experience that your build will work very well. Here's the link to anyone interested:

http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/garen-the-healthy-killer-updated-101717