SuperJkfried » It't 3v3 build,he wrote it so being jungle there is a bit useless,unless you are Shyvana (hate her) so i think this build is pretty normal there. Expansivity is not problem that much if u know how to play. Many players know Noct as off tank and the rest know him as huge dmg dealer so they don't mind any defensive items,it's just pure dmg. Working BC and LW is cool if there is Rammus or any hero that huge stacks armor. But he does not have follow this all time,there are just examples of items,that are awesome. :)

1.This build is expensive as heck(3 B.F items??)
2.No defense other than banshees, which is the 2nd last item
3.Nocturne should NEVER lane, he's one of the best junglers out there, why remove him from there?
4. BC and lW don't work well together
5.This build is pretty much pure ad, the second you go in a teamfight, you're pretty much dead. Blocking one or 2 spells doesn't matter, You're not ranged and can't kite.
you'll have to be constantly in their faces which is really risky with 2k hp, even more so if you don't have a banshee's yet

+ maybe in skill order... Maxing Q first is normal,but it's nice to take W on levels 4,8,12 and then 17 and 18 for bigger AS boost. ;)

Well... I told it many times. Nocturne is off-tank and as off-tank he should be built. I played this huge ad before but then i found Off-tank and i can say you,it's MUCH better. I like laning (cuz i know jungling just as Sion... :D ) and he is awesome laner at all. But trust to me. Building Doran's Blade , Berserker's Greaves Frozen Mallet and then Atma's Impaler and Warmog's Armor Trust to me,it's terribly awesome and you will still have huge dmg. If u think 4k hp and 200 ad is low,buy then The Bloodthyrster and u'll be fine. If you think i am stupid,tell me it,if u think it's good idea to try it,PM me and I would try to say you more. :) But still gj!

nocturne is pretty awesome..i like his vice and if he use his ulti his damm scary you never know if he atcks your or your allies :D

Black Cleaver and Last Whisper is overkill if you ask me. Also more images would be nice. Haven't tried so refraining from voting, but I feel two armor reduction items is really situational like if they each have 100+ armor...

I am not a nocturneplayer (don't own him aswell :D), but i think, you don't really need phantomdancer too bad because of your passive of your spellshield, you will get a quite nice att-speedbuff out of it.

Also i do not like the start with doran's blade, it is in my opinion really risky and you wont have any sustain from harass (only your passive, might be enough, maybe...), but well, i did not try it in a game, so i won't rate this guide ;)

I changed the Build, but before, It seemed perfectly fine to me, I usually go 10+/1 with the build. I'll try this one, but I like Phantom Dancer in it because of the increased Attack Speed and the Movement speed.

Aside from some buy order prefs, I agree with everything up to Phantom Dancer - both Madred's Razors are unnecessary. Infinity Edge and Black Cleaver would be a better pair.

Also... Complete build with Doran's? -_-

Replace Doran's with Last Whisper if you want a similar effect to Madred's for tankbusting. ArPen is more helpful than most people give credit for.

Agree with SiArEx. Also it's probably better to max Unspeakable Horror so that the enemy champion is feared longer and your team can clean up easier. Didn't vote...yet =P

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Madred's Bloodrazor is a UNIQUE Passive, meaning it doesn't stack. it's just an expensive Pickaxe and Madred's Razors.Also, Phantom Dancer is very un-needed. you can get better Crit chance with Infinity Edge and Attack Speed and Armor Reduction with Black Cleaver. And Banshee's Veil has great synergy with Shroud of Darkness.