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League of Legends Build Guide Author VAIReetaws

Guardsman Bob's way of Xin Zhao

VAIReetaws Last updated on March 2, 2012
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Xarkaz | July 20, 2012 1:39pm
the Summoner's insight spell in utility is fail you dont use any of the summoner spells it affect, or the guide doesnt have them
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cence | June 1, 2012 1:36pm
Hello, I'll start to say that i think ur guide is pretty good and i really like it, it helped me to understand xin alot better. however i still got a question after reading it.
i wounder why u take "e" at lvl 1 and not "q" since Three Talon Strike give 15 damage + ur attack damage in bonus, its like +70 damage.
So u give 85~ damage 3 times + ur AA at lvl 1, i think thats a heavy damage, ofc u have to skip the slow at lvl 1 but i think its that worth.

(so my question is firs. can it really be true that xin can make 3x(15+70+70) = 465 total damage on the time its activated?
if yes, my second question is, arrent that better then Audacious Charge? (at lvl 1)

//Cence a fan of you ;)
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Raven_Kai | June 1, 2012 9:24am
I like very much overall, but would add two small comment on the Skills:

IF you are reasonably certain its going to be a slugging match and your prey is not going to simply try to GTFO (e.g. dueling a warwick or riven), you'll want to wait to hit battle cry until after the third hit from three talon strike. TTS does not go on cooldown until after the third hit, and its your only hard cc and and non-ult dps (free BF sword for 3 htis at level 3!), as such, getting it 3 seconds sooner is quite nice...IF you are reasonably sure you can get all the hits from battle cry and are not ganking or making an Ash explode.

IF you are reasonably certain you are not fighting a baron, dragon, or enemy player in the immediate future and your mana is ok (e.g. your team just aced and is pushing middle lane), you can use battle cry on creeps to bring back your ultimate faster. As your ult is vital to surviving team-fights it is worth to mana to bring it back that much faster.
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regiooam2 | May 29, 2012 2:23pm
GO UP XIN ZHAO IS THE RULES! GG!
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Zerfall (4) | May 23, 2012 2:51am
Nice guide took some time to read it all and i like it, usually play xin jungle but this is an awesome guide for laning :D soo +1
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Czoklyt | April 13, 2012 3:21pm
After reading bout using ulti at lvl 3, and building brutalizer as 1st item i've just closed that guide. That's something i call perfect fail.
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oxxio | April 3, 2012 7:09am
and most people give you the fault if you loose cause tehy think it is a fail build got to do something so your stronger early game
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oxxio | April 3, 2012 7:04am
i think you dont get alot of kills because you get killstealed al the time
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Jonboygush | September 29, 2011 3:57am
Can you update the guide...I had a hell of a time finding this guide(since its expired)...and I always used it in my matches...but now its not in the top 10 anymore!
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Calibern (34) | September 7, 2011 5:25am
Why don't you have flash under your optional summoner spells? Also add a section on situational items (what may be good one game, might be utterly useless next game). And I LOLed when I saw the eve was expecting you to mid over the mf, and lux. Not that he is a bad mid it's just that mf needs the farm a lot more than you do. By the way Annie is quite tanky actually, if she build RoA, Rylais, and banshees which most good Annie will do. Also you don't really need lantern too farm well, just wait for minions to drop, and last hit. Try replacing it for stark's fervor (its 900 gold more expensive though). Please add more colors, so boring reading through all that. +1 great detail, nice explanations and great pictures. I could hardly tell that English wasn't your first language, only knew because you told me.
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FairyNarga | August 21, 2011 11:15pm
Thumbs up for this awesome guide, congrats bro
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a.ndrei2 | August 15, 2011 5:46am
Best xin zhao build!
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killedbythedark | August 11, 2011 8:08pm
good built
and btw DPS = Damage per Second
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pawka123 | August 4, 2011 10:15am
Wow! Bro this build is really sick! First time i played it i went 13/0
http://imageshack.us/f/820/xinbob.png/ snapshot
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Linjir | July 30, 2011 4:47pm
best guide ever
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Rawi | July 19, 2011 1:06pm

Really nice guide and good way to farn IP but i don't understand why he's maxing first E.

it does more damage and you get good slow, q is more about its knock, not really the damage
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degini (6) | July 6, 2011 8:30pm
The slow probably
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MeHeroYouZero | July 4, 2011 9:42am
Really nice guide and good way to farn IP but i don't understand why he's maxing first E.
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Scorp1onPT | June 27, 2011 12:20pm
very nice build dude :D
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Guidemaker (8) | June 22, 2011 7:36am
Shouldn't the skill combo be E>R>Q>wait for it to wear off>W and not
E>R>W>Q?
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Zwabitts | June 20, 2011 11:58pm
This is The BEST xin zhao guide EVER!!!!!

THE BEST! Thanks a lot for making this! you rock!!!
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Rawi | June 17, 2011 2:07pm
best Xin guide on moba, I love the balance between survivability and damage output.. +1
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Slizer002 (27) | June 16, 2011 8:25am
I dunno if you have been watching Bob lately, but if you had you would notice that for the "new" Xin as he says it - He goes for a first item Triforce, then tanky stuff ^^

I personally have found that to work better aswell :)
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wojen616 (1) | June 15, 2011 8:50am
IMHO the best Xin guide.
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VAIReetaws (15) | June 15, 2011 3:58am
Its considerable yes, sometimes I build a heart of gold and eventually make a randuin's omen. It's optional
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Calibern (34) | June 11, 2011 6:35am
How do u feel about replacing frozen mallet with a randuin's open? I feel like its a better defensive item. In my opinion frozen mallet cost too much for the stats it gives. The slow can easily be replace by red buff or extra move speed. Other than that +1
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Copperhorse | June 3, 2011 5:35pm
Not enough attack speed. -1
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jimakos.gre (1) | June 1, 2011 2:49pm
Hello VAIReetaws.
First of all, nice and really in deapth guide. Thanks for your time making it for us. I like most of the things here except some that I will list.
1) Please make a guide about jungling Xin Zhao. I thing that his passive and his second ability can make him a good jungler. Also, his Audacious Charge can help him go to his target quicky, slow him and take the kill for his team.
2) I don't like somehow your build:
-Youmuu's Ghostblade is a must for a Xin Zhao, I agree with you. (same with The Black Cleaver)
-Mercury's Treads... Hmm, I think that maybe Berserker's Greaves are better because of their attack speed. When facing a lot of CC, Mercury's Treads are pretty nice, but generally I think Berserker's Greaves are better on Xin Zhao. (You could say now "Omg noob how could you exchange Lower stuns, snares etc. for only 23% of Atttack speed?" Of course, any stun/slow/etc. could be annoying. But if you have a great attack speed and LS you can regain your lost health back (if not dead) quickly. If you miss a kill 'cause of the stun, I think that Mercury's Treads would not help you that much to grab the kill (I mean the opportunities to do so, are low)
-Wriggle's Lantern? Stark's Fervor could be better in my opinion. 'Cause it gives a pretty nice buff to your team + attack speed + 20 ArPen!!
-Frozen Mallet and Banshee's Veil? I think that a Xin should grab only one of these two defencive items. A Phantom Dancer couldn't be better instead of one of them?

I'm sorry for my long text and bad english:/
Please take a moment writing back to me.

Greedings, jimakos.gre
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VAIReetaws (15) | May 30, 2011 3:55pm
Do not really know what you are talking about, positive, negative please post decent English that i understand ^^.
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wolf 6374 | May 29, 2011 10:12am
i sort of changed this build info yomuu's ghost blade, guardian angel,starks ferver,frozen mallet, and last whisper. i used this build accedently in my 3rd game with xin, i wrote this build down then i accedently switched the papers in mid game so i had a lee sin build sort of. lol but i got 19/7/12. ik alot of deaths but i didnt want to be to be to mean xD
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tinolas (17) | May 23, 2011 8:14am
good build, would appreciate an update though
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Shrillex (39) | May 22, 2011 11:12am
No wonder guardsmombob is so good. He got a good build lol +1
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MolaynoxX (8) | May 21, 2011 3:57pm
Wow. Really Nice Guide!
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TBasil13 (4) | May 21, 2011 1:23pm
VAIReetaws wrote:

I really never bother my movementspeed during the whole game. I mostly am fast enough with ghost and the active of youmuu's ghostblade. I don't really know how you struckle with it.
About the runes, it's just a matter of personal choice and I really recommend people using there own set of runes which they find best with this build.

Anyways you make me think so I want to thank you for your feedback. Cheers

True, but Ghost and Youmuu's are both temporary speed boosts. I like moving a minimum of 400 movespeed at all times simply because of the need to get from one place to the next. As for the runes, like I said, you need the attack speed runes. Otherwise, you aren't attacking fast enough and substitutions for items might be necessary.

I never said that I struggle with movespeed, it just really ticks me off when that one person gets away and (in your example) ghost is on cooldown so there is no way for me to catch them because I am either slower or the exact same speed and chasing is meaningless as there is no chance for me to catch them with my E ability on Xin Zhao.
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VAIReetaws (15) | May 21, 2011 10:41am
I really never bother my movementspeed during the whole game. I mostly am fast enough with ghost and the active of youmuu's ghostblade. I don't really know how you struckle with it.
About the runes, it's just a matter of personal choice and I really recommend people using there own set of runes which they find best with this build.

Anyways you make me think so I want to thank you for your feedback. Cheers
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TBasil13 (4) | May 20, 2011 9:24am
I'm not downvoting, but I can't STAND going that slow. 390 movespeed is not fast enough for me. If you're going to get merc treads, then you have to AT LEAST buy something to get you up to 410 movespeed. However, that is just my preference. I hate moving slow. I realize you include Trinity Force as an optional item that would increase your movespeed, but it's too expensive JUST for that one concern of mine... The other stats are irrelevant. Meaning, I wouldn't spend that much gold just cause I want to move faster.

In addition, there is no flexibility for runes here... If you don't have the runes displayed then you can NOT get the items used or else you don't attack fast enough (I do not have AS Seals or Glyphs at the time of this post). Granted, the build APPEARS to be solid, it's hard to say with the lack of flexibility in what runes you obtain.
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ynchanenoch | May 19, 2011 10:42pm
I'm a Chinese, and nice build lol, u made Chinese ancient fighter rocks as in the past!
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Jonboygush | May 19, 2011 3:22pm
Awesome Guide. :)
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L3ul (2) | May 19, 2011 3:08am
Very nice build.
Randuin's Omen works perfectly with Xin. I swapped Frozen Mallet with Randuin's, it's more better.
And if you want some help with the text formating, just PM me :)
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VAIReetaws (15) | May 18, 2011 1:13am
SpicyRice wrote:

hi, your build is good however:

guardsman bob normally gets a wriggles before a ghostblade
he also specifically said on a recent livestream that he doesn't like black cleaver and would take IE over it every time.

also i think a randuin's is much more common than you have indicated

not voting up or down, just saying


You might be right there but as far as I know this build is inspired by Guardsman Bob and I followed most of his strategies and item choices. If you read my introduction you'll find yourself reading that guides must not be taken as some sort of bible as Guardsman Bob said: People)look at guides if they are some sort of holy something people following them cause they don't know anything else. I see people buying the items one by one as they are up in the bracket but it's all situational if you know what I mean. Sometimes I go straight youmuu's, sometime I first buy wriggle's lantarn and often I buy a magic resist stone cause the enemy has fed casters.

Anyways thanks for the feedback, I'm a fan as you I suppose. It's nice to discuss whatever he uses and what not but time changes so his idea of items change too. I garantee you that this guide brings success if you have red it whole and open your own mind with it.

Peace!
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Phoenix General | May 17, 2011 8:11pm
I would vote this up, but the vote button on your page isn't working for some reason. Anyways- great build. I like how Xin Zhao isn't a complete glass cannon in this build.
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SpicyRice (15) | May 17, 2011 6:37am
hi, your build is good however:

guardsman bob normally gets a wriggles before a ghostblade
he also specifically said on a recent livestream that he doesn't like black cleaver and would take IE over it every time.

also i think a randuin's is much more common than you have indicated

not voting up or down, just saying
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VAIReetaws (15) | May 15, 2011 8:13am
This ain't a jungle guide but a solo lane guide or in some cases. But yeah thanks for your feedback it means alot and keep the Xin Zhao soul alive cause he is one of the greatest champions in the league. In my opinion.

And it does make me feel better!
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Zuthilios (1) | May 14, 2011 11:09am
Whilst I don't agree on you're item build in terms of the Frozen Mallet or Trinity Force since I'm one to always keep a red buff on hand being a jungling Xin Zhao. The most of you're guide is very well written and gives a lot more to offer than just an Item, Runes and Masteries list.

Thought it might make you feel better considering every time I watch you on Solomid you seem to be loosing. :P
+1
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Deavill (2) | May 5, 2011 1:45pm
Love this build. I played Xin quite a lot with this build and came to conclusion - it rocks. I have killed most squishes in a few seconds, tanks weren't a problem either. It provides us with much survivability and awesome damage too. Excellent build.
+1
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MEGJECT | May 2, 2011 1:51pm
Did 19/4/8 on my first try in a normal game. And thats for a lvl 20 rookie. Some ppl may hate me for it, but i prefer starks fevor > ghostblad. And thats basicly because i forget to use the active all the time xD. Still a lvl 20 rookie xD. But yeah, I like this build.

GJ :)
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Ewalk (1) | April 26, 2011 7:27pm
Awesome Guide.

I never considered to max audacious charge so fat but the slow really is clutch and does allow you to be more consistant with the knock up.

I Like it.

I for see a xin nerf coming after this last buff..

past two games mid i wen 5/2 and 18/2

with every one complaining about how i just come in and clean up all the kills... HAHA

+1
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VAIReetaws (15) | April 26, 2011 2:14pm
Thanks for your feedback, I agree with your thoughts. A strong xin zhao must have some decent defence or else you'll be useless in teamfights late game. Tomorrow the great buff for Xin Zhao comes, this can change a few things.

Cheers
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Ragemoarnerd (2) | April 23, 2011 2:28pm
I like the build. I find it very frustrating when people don't build Xin with at least a few tanky items. Love the Wriggles too - I hate when nobody on my team buys that or at least the wards. +1
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VAIReetaws (15) | April 20, 2011 9:59am
Madreddz wrote:

Guardsman has changed his build. He uses triforce instead of yomuus now.


Not entirely true since GB uses items on occasions. Sometimes he uses a youmuu's and lately triforce more often. It's a matter of taste, I sometimes build a youmuu's and also a trinity force. Matter of taste and goals you wanna reach with the build.
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VAIReetaws (15) | April 20, 2011 9:56am
@Traumaenzer
imageshack.us sign up there. Upload the screenshot and post the direct link into a comment.


@whythisname
I jump to a target with "E" and press "Q" and "W" mostly when I'm level 6 I first jump with "E" and directly push "R" since it does a certain %dmg of the target's HP. So it has more effect when the target is at full HP.

Thanks for your feedback and don't forget to vote!
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Traumtaenzer | April 18, 2011 3:53pm
@whythisname: i just bought xin and started playing him and also used the combo like u do (without having read ur comment) i use it for mind games as well, hit 2 minions then push the enemies back for fear of being knocked up. It works wonders and ye, bush hiding and the combo u say is just killer :)

WVaireetaws i got a screenshot i'd like to send u but i dunno how. Pls give instructions if u feel like it.
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whythisname (2) | April 13, 2011 7:06am
Does anyone ever do QERW? I always use that combo when I'm waiting in the brush to jump on someone. I activate Q while in the bush, then charge in with E (which is essentially E + an auto attack, or the first hit of Q in this case). Then I use R and use the remaining 2 strikes of Q to knock my target up (sometimes with W, sometimes without, depending on how much health the target has before and after my combo). It's really powerful because your E hits like a train combined with Q and because you only need to get in 2 hits after R it's an almost guaranteed knock up.
It might sound like a complicated combo but it really isn't. Maybe it is compared to other xin combos because it's more timing dependent, but if you're charging from the bush (a good tactic by itself) it's an awesome combo. It also works without the bush, but usually when you activate Q they'll start running xD

I also sometimes use 2 strikes of my Q on minions and then use E to charge at an opponent with the last Q strike, it'll instantly knock him/her up. Very effective to initiate, especially if they think you're going to use your 3 strikes on minions and they try to harass you while they think you're farming.
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ggog | April 11, 2011 5:21pm
dude awesome build
but im itryin got decide wat to spend my ip on.
nidalee just because she is a ton of fun or xin plz reply and tell me which one u thing
ggog
ps. send me an invite love to play a game with u
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Madreddz (1) | April 11, 2011 12:07pm
Guardsman has changed his build. He uses triforce instead of yomuus now.
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ZeeSleepy | April 11, 2011 11:02am
any advice on facing trynd early game? for some reason more than 3/4 of the past 15 games i had trynd was on the other team.
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L3g1pwnz0rz | April 10, 2011 6:56am
Very nice guide.
I just bough Xin Zhao and ill go try it out :)
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Ser0ga | April 10, 2011 5:16am
fail glyph's
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xXSkylarkerXx | April 9, 2011 9:15pm
Really good build! Good Job!
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Lilwoody | April 9, 2011 12:14pm
Best guide ever. Watch the Guardsman Bob's videos to better understand it. It could have some more guidance on situational items like omen, aegis, bloodrazors, etc.
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VAIReetaws (15) | April 9, 2011 9:04am
No absoluty not, youmuu's is a core item which this build uses cause of the great armP and the active. I always start with buying this as my main damage output item.
Madred's is also great though only to expensive to go for. I like the cooldown reduction which youmuu's gives and the ArmP.
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potopn | April 8, 2011 11:08pm
good but wouldn't you take out youmuu's for madreds blood?
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ArcticWolfo (2) | April 8, 2011 9:39pm
I like this guide
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Kuchcik | April 8, 2011 4:39am
Great.
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BattleDex | April 8, 2011 4:10am
nice build, works very well
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DerrickDuong (2) | April 7, 2011 9:06pm
Great guide. I use Nocturne, but your build is so good i use it.
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ZeeSleepy | April 7, 2011 4:55pm
lol i use ur build for 3v3. i feel his build requires too much money in the beginning so i basically do no dmg until that first BF sword.
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VAIReetaws (15) | April 7, 2011 5:51am
Thanks, the other high rated build is a mainly 3v3 build focused on twisted tree line matches.
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ZeeSleepy | April 6, 2011 9:15pm
very nice build liked it better than the other top xin build
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Ladon | April 5, 2011 4:45am
Bawoooo
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Jake F. | April 4, 2011 1:59pm
Great build!
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Jake F. | April 4, 2011 1:59pm
I've always hated xin and when I tried this build I had a lot of fun!

+1
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VAIReetaws (15) | April 3, 2011 2:38pm
Attack speed will be alright if you're going The Black Cleaver late game and also your passive skill and you can activate Youmuu's Ghostblade I wouldn't worry about AS.

Anyways guys thanks for voting and I'm glad you guys find your way with Xin Zhao using my guide, appreciated.
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firis | April 3, 2011 1:33pm
great build - a lot of defense and more than enough attack power, but i'm a bit concerned about the lack of AS late game, so i usually swap lantern for something like starks fervor.
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Thisdude (1) | April 3, 2011 12:57pm
works well
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xSteveLoL | April 2, 2011 7:49pm
Great build/guide!
I just won my 3-4th game with Xin in ranked and owned!
Thanks a lot, I think I might've just found a new main ^.^
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GaaaH | April 2, 2011 6:03am
Good !
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sEpA|rAtE777 | April 2, 2011 5:36am
nice build, played it alot, but i prefer buying trinity Force and Aegis of the Legion instead of Frozen Mallet and Banshee's Veil. With my item choice i have about 150 armor and mres with full itembuild and i fixed the annoying lack of runspeed.
Very big +1
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 31, 2011 1:59pm
Thanks alot guys for all the tryed and rated this guide. I appreciate it alot, shows me some reward for building it and putting time in it. Thanks :)
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KrYoS (4) | March 31, 2011 12:56pm
Awesome guide for sure.
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Oblivion17 (1) | March 29, 2011 7:25pm
Nice!
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zuuhead | March 29, 2011 9:20am

Love this build BoB <3
never stop streaming :3
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DiggerNick (6) | March 29, 2011 3:49am
very nice guide i really like it :)
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XinXun (1) | March 28, 2011 6:26pm
Really the best build for xin zhao: if u want to carry, to get kills, to kill the ennemy carry(and more ? maybe a penta ?) do what this man says ! really i distroyed the other team. For teh wriggle's lantern, just TAKE IT, REALLY A GOOD item ! armor +life steal+farming like a god+ some damage+free ward every 3mn====> for teh win .


GOOOOOOOD JOOOOOB !
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RedBlueJeans (7) | March 28, 2011 2:04pm
Some of the information in your guide is just plain wrong. But most of it is really good, so I won't downvote. ;)

Pretty funny that you tell people to use ulti to harrass at level 3, not sure if that's possible. :P
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Robb18 | March 28, 2011 8:17am
great build i went 24-8-17
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Docepi | March 26, 2011 8:00am
+1
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Docepi | March 26, 2011 7:59am
Nice Build +1
PENTAKILLLLL
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DasMudkip | March 25, 2011 3:40pm
I've been using this Xin build for a while now and I've been doing great! If only my teammates knew how to play, then i wouldn't have defeats :( +1!
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wishr | March 25, 2011 7:36am
21-8-1 is usefull 2
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Hallveinn | March 25, 2011 4:06am
thx.

this must not say ALL, but i change my runes and followed the guide and WON. enemies hit the floor very easy.
perhaps they have been rookies, i dont know.
anyway, result was good ^^

edit: took not the abilities tree but 9 points in defense, coz of the strong minions and overall surviveability.
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Eastwood (1) | March 24, 2011 1:52pm
Guardsman Bob is completely win!
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Haeral (1) | March 23, 2011 7:15pm
cool guide!! I practically won by myself a 3vs3!
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 21, 2011 5:55pm
I guess, I use my own set of runes so they might be a bit different from bob's.
Thanks for voting! :)
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wishr | March 21, 2011 4:16pm
great guide. love bob's stream.
btw, why he uses 2 armor seals?
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Joffrey | March 21, 2011 3:31pm
nice
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phezar | March 21, 2011 3:06pm
Did you ever thought about using Hextrinker instead of Wriggels? If the enemys are more Ap than Ad?
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GaaaH | March 21, 2011 2:26am
I play like you so + 1
Unless the mastery, I play defense.
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Draztok | March 20, 2011 12:50pm
Nice guide, nice build. Went 21/4/8. Gj
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 19, 2011 5:49am
Thanks guys for voting, I had a little gab and stopped playing xin zhao for that new champion but whenever I play xin zhao I use my own build and I enjoy pwning with it.

Cheers
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CF04 (3) | March 19, 2011 4:26am
Good job on this build. I've started using it everytime i play Xin..
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Sauron the Great (4) | March 19, 2011 12:41am
whoops sry forgot to vote
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Sauron the Great (4) | March 19, 2011 12:41am
very nice build too bad game ended before i got to the black clever oh well
also getting charge first actually was very nice i didnt notice before but i dont really use tts much unless im fighting champs but with the charge it is helpful in farming if there is a group all low on hp anyway enough of my rambling thank you for the great guide
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Pedras | March 17, 2011 6:29pm
Big fan of Bob, his really god playing Xin Zhao and i'm happy to see his build here.

Good job on guide. I play alot with xin myself and i use some diferente items but still +1


<3 Bob
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 16, 2011 2:45am
God I hate trolls
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Hamduden (7) | March 16, 2011 2:05am
GreenDogl wrote:

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idiot xD
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Selecao | March 15, 2011 4:06pm
GreenDogl wrote:

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Troll.
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GreenDogl | March 15, 2011 12:13pm
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Critorious (47) | March 15, 2011 11:44am
Nice in depth guide, ive played Xin like this for a while, but instead of ignite I used exhaust incase they flashed or something ;D
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DevRii | March 12, 2011 8:13pm
Very good guide, it has helped me a lot playing xin zhao, I used to play Hotshotgg's build but i find this | more interesting. :)
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DevRii | March 12, 2011 8:13pm
Very good guide, it has helped me a lot playing xin zhao, I used to play Hotshotgg's build but i find this | more interesting. :)
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vitmaktt | March 12, 2011 6:06am
nice guide
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Crimson | March 12, 2011 12:39am
Got a quarda :D



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VAIReetaws (15) | March 11, 2011 9:20am
Don't spam please.
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Say.Imba.Plx | March 11, 2011 6:41am
Nice guide . Explains everything properly and quite tanky build with some dps . +1 though.
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Say.Imba.Plx | March 11, 2011 6:41am
Nice guide . Explains everything properly and quite tanky build with some dps . +1 though.
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Say.Imba.Plx | March 11, 2011 6:41am
Nice guide . Explains everything properly and quite tanky build with some dps . +1 though.
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Say.Imba.Plx | March 11, 2011 6:41am
Nice guide . Explains everything properly and quite tanky build with some dps . +1 though.
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Say.Imba.Plx | March 11, 2011 6:41am
Nice guide . Explains everything properly and quite tanky build with some dps . +1 though.
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Say.Imba.Plx | March 11, 2011 6:41am
Nice guide . Explains everything properly and quite tanky build with some dps . +1 though.
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Say.Imba.Plx | March 11, 2011 6:41am
Nice guide . Explains everything properly and quite tanky build with some dps . +1 though.
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Say.Imba.Plx | March 11, 2011 6:40am
Nice guide . Explains everything properly and quite tanky build with some dps . +1 though.
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SatansFate (4) | March 11, 2011 5:34am
+1 dude.
I can see you've now taken the criticism I gave you, and fixed the parts that were clearly wrong. You've also expanded the guide and added more info, which is always good.
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Mudokipo | March 9, 2011 8:44pm
Awesome build! After using a variation of your second build suggestion, I've died WAY less. Thanks!
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 9, 2011 5:03am
Thanks alot man, means alot. Finaly I convinced you to vote haha ^^
I would say use it and make the best of it, thanks for your critism and input, it helps me correct myself and look deeper into things.

Cheers!
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Hamduden (7) | March 9, 2011 1:28am
VAIReetaws wrote:

you won't have a phage most times you'll able to gank when you got youmuu's up. Within the time you reach phage you're about level 10, 11. And all the levels before that you're only slow option is AC. Anyways it's also a personal thing for going for AC first cause AC also gives you a nice damage on active and it gives you slow percentage idd. Which allows you to control the situation and damage your target even more.
I like your thoughts into this, it makes me think things over and over ^^.


Yeah, it's definately a matter of preference. I actually did try leveling AC up first, and it worked pretty decent. The lower CD is pretty useful, and actually the damage is also pretty decent.

I still think I'll stick to TTS, but maybe when I build Trinity Force it's a good idea with AC .. dunno. I believe both options are pretty decent :)


VAIReetaws wrote:
My comment had nothing to do with my guide whatsoever. He was kind enough to leave some feedback on my guide with a downvote, so I thought I would do the same in a neutral way. Mind your own business and comment on his guide, as that is what this is for.

That being said, what you wrote isn't even true. My build is viable at high ELO's. It largely depends on the skill of the player. Defensive items are included in my build for a reason. If you don't have the skills or intelligence to use my guide at a high ELO, then that is a different problem altogether.

My guide is meant primarily for 3v3. If you want to play 5's with it then tweak the items and the playstyle or look at another guide. This build is meant for 5's it seems. That's fine. This site isn't a competition, and I never claimed that my build was the all superior Xin guide. The rankings are used as an indicator of how people have used the guide and whether or not they have success. Just because you like this build for 5's doesn't mean that my guide isn't great for people playing 3's (or 5's for that matter) and that we didn't both put a lot of time and effort into putting it together.

tl;dr: Talk less **** and be respectful of people who put time into making these guides.


Hey, ma boi. Take it easy. I've never been disrespectful to anyone in here - and that's mainly because of the time and effort people are putting into these guides/builds. We all have opinions (and that's a human right most places), and my opinion is that your build is best for 3v3 and low-elo. This opinion doesn't make your GUIDE (please notice that I'm using caps-lock on this word) bad.

Maybe my comment was a bit "I don't really see where he's going with this" kind of comment. But let me explain: When I am using Mobafire, I am considering the first part of champion description as the "BUILD". The build is where you place runes, masteries, items etc .. The build is the core thing in the description = the reason why you made the build - to show people how are building the champion.

After that, the guide comes. Here you're explaining everything, considering optional items etc. etc.

YOUR GUIDE is VERY DECENT. Don't misunderstand me. (However, bro, I still think it's unbelieveable you have the BEST build/guide on Mobafire. But grats ofc.)

Sorry for inconvenience.
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Gravefury (8) | March 8, 2011 8:19pm
miura87 wrote:

Seems like there are a lot of questions about the runes. Anyone tested to see which ones are better to run? the armor or attack speed.

Use armor runes till you get 8.4 defense then the rest alacrity. (Seals) This allows you to take less damage from minions and towers, so easier to dive through minions without getting killed.
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miura87 | March 8, 2011 6:39pm
awesome build. It's working better than any of the others I've used so far.
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miura87 | March 8, 2011 3:19pm
Seems like there are a lot of questions about the runes. Anyone tested to see which ones are better to run? the armor or attack speed.
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 8, 2011 3:00pm
I build youmuu's ghostblade cause it's build with armor penetration from brutalizer, cooldown reduction and has a great active. it also gives you critical strike chance. last whisper is a good item but since I prefer youmuu's and the black cleaver It's kinda waste to buy a last whisper.

thanks for your vote :)!
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GetsugaTenshou | March 8, 2011 1:37pm
GREAT BUILD MY FRIEND!!! LOVE IT!!! NEVER LOST A GAME EXCEPT ONE!!!but...why ghostblade and why not last whisper...i think last whisper has better dmg output and for me i dont need the active attack speed of ghostblade because of full runes attack speed (38%)...i now ghostblade will help u a lot early and mid game but last whisper will be usefull all the time and for all enemies...far more ArPen and more damage....PLZ WHATS UR OPINION???????
Anyways GREAT BUILD MATE +1 FROM ME!!!
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Crimson | March 8, 2011 12:43pm
+1
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HIACliff (59) | March 8, 2011 11:49am
Hamduden wrote:



Your build: 3v3 (+ low-elo)

His build: 5v5 + 3v3 (+ high-elo)


You simply can't deny it :)

My comment had nothing to do with my guide whatsoever. He was kind enough to leave some feedback on my guide with a downvote, so I thought I would do the same in a neutral way. Mind your own business and comment on his guide, as that is what this is for.

That being said, what you wrote isn't even true. My build is viable at high ELO's. It largely depends on the skill of the player. Defensive items are included in my build for a reason. If you don't have the skills or intelligence to use my guide at a high ELO, then that is a different problem altogether.

My guide is meant primarily for 3v3. If you want to play 5's with it then tweak the items and the playstyle or look at another guide. This build is meant for 5's it seems. That's fine. This site isn't a competition, and I never claimed that my build was the all superior Xin guide. The rankings are used as an indicator of how people have used the guide and whether or not they have success. Just because you like this build for 5's doesn't mean that my guide isn't great for people playing 3's (or 5's for that matter) and that we didn't both put a lot of time and effort into putting it together.

tl;dr: Talk less **** and be respectful of people who put time into making these guides.
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phezar | March 8, 2011 11:17am
********, this guide is so ***ing well +1!!!!!!!
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phezar | March 8, 2011 11:17am
********, this guide is so ***ing well +1!!!!!!!
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GetsugaTenshou | March 8, 2011 9:04am
GREAT BUILD MY FRIEND!!! LOVE IT!!! NEVER LOST A GAME EXCEPT ONE!!!but...why ghostblade and why not last whisper...i think last whisper has better dmg output and for me i dont need the active attack speed of ghostblade because of full runes attack speed (38%)...i now ghostblade will help u a lot early and mid game but last whisper will be usefull all the time and for all enemies...far more ArPen and more damage....PLZ WHATS UR OPINION???????
Anyways GREAT BUILD MATE +1 FROM ME!!!
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 8, 2011 1:21am
you won't have a phage most times you'll able to gank when you got youmuu's up. Within the time you reach phage you're about level 10, 11. And all the levels before that you're only slow option is AC. Anyways it's also a personal thing for going for AC first cause AC also gives you a nice damage on active and it gives you slow percentage idd. Which allows you to control the situation and damage your target even more.
I like your thoughts into this, it makes me think things over and over ^^.
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Hamduden (7) | March 8, 2011 1:04am
VAIReetaws wrote:

I always level up E Audacious Charge first, why? Cause I want the extra slow first. While you slow the target you have more time to deal more damage over a short time. So eventually you deal more damage to the target. I level "E" and "W" first. Battle Cry because of the passive and active it has, attack speed.


Hmm.
1: I don't think you're considering the potential damage output in TTS (+ BC actually).
2: Imo "Slow duration" > "slow percentage". The slow duration for AC is only 1,7 seconds at all skill levels, and I believe that the 20% is more than enough to blast the enemy with CS + TTS + BC. Another thing is that by the time you're going to start ganking, and your team is having teamfights, you'll most likely have a Phage .. this means you'll be able to slow them relatively often, and therefore you don't have to rely on the AC slow percentage.

Just my thoughts. Got anything to add? Arguments against me? Please let me know.
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Hamduden (7) | March 8, 2011 12:51am
HIACliff wrote:

This build doesn't quite have the killing power that I would like Xin Zhao to have, but it is definitely viable and helpful for your team. Sacrificing some damage for the wards of Wriggle's as well as a defensive item is often worth it.


Your build: 3v3 (+ low-elo)

His build: 5v5 + 3v3 (+ high-elo)


You simply can't deny it :)
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HIACliff (59) | March 7, 2011 4:27pm
+1
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 7, 2011 1:19pm
It has a great damage output in my opinion along that it gives you great survivability, armor, magic resist. It's not focused on pure damage only but trust me, it does enough damage to take out anyone. Anyways you should try it out if you haven't yet.
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HIACliff (59) | March 7, 2011 12:38pm
This build doesn't quite have the killing power that I would like Xin Zhao to have, but it is definitely viable and helpful for your team. Sacrificing some damage for the wards of Wriggle's as well as a defensive item is often worth it.
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Hyrel | March 7, 2011 10:10am
+1 I like this build~
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ferdinandalberts | March 7, 2011 7:38am
nice guide
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 7, 2011 4:36am
I always level up E Audacious Charge first, why? Cause I want the extra slow first. While you slow the target you have more time to deal more damage over a short time. So eventually you deal more damage to the target. I level "E" and "W" first. Battle Cry because of the passive and active it has, attack speed.
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Hamduden (7) | March 7, 2011 4:17am
What's your arguments for taking maxing AC first instead og TTS? I don't really see it. Thanks :)
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kewl85 | March 7, 2011 3:58am
nice guide~!
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Razmout | March 6, 2011 5:00pm
i just did 22-3-14
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Razmout | March 6, 2011 2:53pm
really nice build +1 I love guardsman Bob!
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Selecao | March 6, 2011 1:26pm
Grimjaww wrote:

Man i was using the other build that has like 92% and was really struggling. then i tried this build and its 10 times better.I can survive a team fight without dieing in 2 seconds and wriggles is awesome cause i always forget to buy wards. :)

Yeah, the currently #1 ranked build for Xin is too squishy, I would only recommend it for 3v3. But if you use it on 5v5, you die instantly if they focus you, lol. That's why I like this build a lot more, it has survivability.
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clixxxx | March 6, 2011 9:41am
2626
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Grimjaww | March 6, 2011 8:23am
Man i was using the other build that has like 92% and was really struggling. then i tried this build and its 10 times better.I can survive a team fight without dieing in 2 seconds and wriggles is awesome cause i always forget to buy wards. :)
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 6, 2011 6:50am
I maked a guide following his build, core item build. Bob also uses Aegis alot but i'm totally no fan of that.
It's kinda my own build inspired by Guardsman Bob.

Thanks for voting and don't forget to try it.
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Fluffy!1 | March 6, 2011 6:18am
Bob's build is good but you may want to add the order he gets items because it is not like that, he gets them in pieces then builds item according to what their team comp is and if you go step by step I think it would be better.
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 6, 2011 4:43am
The point is, you didn't try the build, you read it and you judge uppon how things are writin.
It's oke if you got some criticism but you don't put effort in finding good things about this guide.
Instead of giving me the oppertunity to change some of that you instantly downvote, and yes thats just sad.
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SatansFate (4) | March 6, 2011 4:03am
VAIReetaws wrote:

Oke you found some bad things in my guide, but have you even tryed it yet? Cause I have some wrong write-ups you downvote?

Thanks sherlock

The good thing would be to admit that you made mistakes, and change those bits.
Then you would get a +1 from me.
Except it's just obvious you can't take a little constructive criticism.
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SatansFate (4) | March 6, 2011 4:02am
Asray wrote:


Did I overlook it or is it in this guide? Because, this is a patch log written by me. Or is it just a missunderstanding?

He's changed the patch log bit now.
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Asray (1) | March 6, 2011 3:00am
SatansFate wrote:


This is completely wrong, the runes got nerfed, not Elixir of Fortitude. Totally un-needed, as your don't use Greater Quintessence of Health.

Did I overlook it or is it in this guide? Because, this is a patch log written by me. Or is it just a missunderstanding?
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Selecao | March 5, 2011 2:20pm
Forgot to vote, +1 of course :D
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Selecao | March 5, 2011 2:20pm
This build is sick, I like it above the others because it adds survivability and explains well why E should be maxed before Q. I really love this build and I got a PENTAKILL with it :D.
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Gravefury (8) | March 5, 2011 1:46pm
This Build <3http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6923/bestxinzhaobuild.jpg
Make sure to get solo/mid lane. My scores in ranked 5v5 solo queue using this build is
10-2-9 (Win)
18-13-11(Lose) (10 largest killing spree)
11-4-13(Win)
17-5-9(Win)
10-10-15 (Lose)
14-4-5 (Win)
12-3-6(Win)(Jungled because no one was jungling he isn't to fast in the jungle until he gets wriggles)
14-7-13 (Win)
1-6-1 (Lose)
15-4-13(Win)
10-3-10 (Win)

Also note that AS runes are REALLY CRUCIAL. with AP runes you can't heal or farm fast enough.
I use the runes 28% AS 6.7 AP and 5.4 Armor
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Mooner (1) | March 5, 2011 1:07pm
If mistakes are made that's part of the feedback people give you. If you can't take negative feedback, then maybe don't post a guide?

I'm about to down-vote just because of your poor attitude at this point, despite it being a decent build.
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 5, 2011 11:54am
Oke you found some bad things in my guide, but have you even tryed it yet? Cause I have some wrong write-ups you downvote?

Thanks sherlock
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SatansFate (4) | March 5, 2011 10:55am
Quoted:
When you are level 3 it's time for payback. When they attacked you and you know you have enough life trow out a agressive combo which hurts alot. First you charge with Audacious Charge and press Crescent Sweep dealing 125/225/325 + 20% of current target's health into physical damage, use Battle Cry and Three Talon Strike to knock the target up.

Uhuh.
'Caus you have 4 skills at level 3, and one of them's your ultimate?


Other stuff, it's a huge wall of text :/ That puts off readers.

Warmog's Armour, even combined with Atma's Impaler is kinda useless. Would be better replaced by 2 damage items or 2 tank items, since without any MR items beyond Mercury's Treads, Madred's Bloodrazor will shred you to pieces. The first build is far better overall.


Quoted:


- I personally never buy this one since it gives you cooldown reduction which you don't really need since you use cooldown runes and The Brutalizer. It also gives ability power well the only skill that uses ability power is Audacious Charge. You don't wanna focus on boosting that skill up with ability power. Maybe you should buy this after 60minuts when your build is complete and you are rich.


But you have AS/ArP runes...

Quoted:
Patch log

Version: 1-0-0-109

* Three Talon Strike cooldown changed to 10 from 12/11/10/9/8
* Crescent Sweep base damage reduced to 125/225/325 from 125/250/375

A slightly early game buff and a little lategame nerf. Because of your Battle Cry the increased CD on the higher levels don't matter and the little damage nerf of his ultimate is not so important. The damage is still high enough^^

Version: 1-0-0-110
*Quintessences of Fortitude reduced in effectiveness by about 20%
*All Champions with mana had their base mana regeneration increased by 2.5 mana per 5 seconds and mana regeneration per 5 seconds per level increased by 0.2

This is something like a "nerf-buff" but it is not so important. Your Essence of Fortitude is sligthly weaker now and this will weaken your early a bit, but the increased manareg is helpful since you won't get in any mana troubles, at no time.

This is completely wrong, the runes got nerfed, not Elixir of Fortitude. Totally un-needed, as your don't use Greater Quintessence of Health.
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euphzji (2) | March 5, 2011 10:54am
Powerful fun build, I'll be trying it out more extensively soon.
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undenth | March 5, 2011 10:35am
keep it going my ******
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undenth | March 5, 2011 10:35am
keep it going my ******
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 5, 2011 9:03am
Thank you for that comment subside! Appreciated! :)
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Subside | March 5, 2011 8:39am
It's upsetting that this isn't the highest rated Xin Zhao guide out there.
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 5, 2011 7:46am
Yeah, I'm still working on the "Optional item" part which I wanna put really much details into so you just gotta wait, but yeah it's a nice suggestion. Madred's Bloodrazor is one of the best carry items out there.
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Subside | March 5, 2011 6:42am
This is my favorite guide for xin. After getting use to utilizing Ghostblade I really feel it's needed when playing Xin, and I honestly would of never considered getting ghostblade if it wasn't for this guide.

One item I don't see being brought up with Xin is Madred's Razors, with Warcry don't you think it scales amazingly?
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 5, 2011 3:57am
Thanks for voting guys, I have to update the runes indeed, working on it. Cheers
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Crimson | March 5, 2011 1:55am
Wow great build first time went 22/5/14
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Gravefury (8) | March 4, 2011 4:01pm
Xylor wrote:

im sorry but -1 because of 2 key things for the start no attack speed item and you level your passive as second??? you need as early to stay in the lane longer.

ur suppose to start with 26 attack speed from runes and have around 13 armor pen he just didn't change the runes yet
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Xylor (2) | March 4, 2011 2:05pm
im sorry but -1 because of 2 key things for the start no attack speed item and you level your passive as second??? you need as early to stay in the lane longer.
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Singularity | March 4, 2011 1:26pm
Very nice job on the descriptions. Clearcut and precise.
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wRAthoFVuLK (535) | March 4, 2011 12:25pm
Nice guide...but on Pros and Cons...I must say, Xin is one of the fastest tower pushers I have seen...with some survivability he can backdoor like there's no tomorrow
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vgfanatic2 | March 4, 2011 12:01pm
noneeee wrote:

In my opinion, it is epic fail tallon strike in the end at lvl 5, also your "e" spell at lvl 1 and in th enda to 5, it make magic dmg and make more dmg with more ability power.

Except than skill queue, great and interestring guide for Xin.


Just because you don't agree with the skill order, doesn't mean it's an "epic fail." If you took the time to actually try it, you might even like it more. He doesn't level E for the extra damage, he levels it for the improved slow and cd, which imo is much more helpful than a little more damage.
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 4, 2011 11:46am
Asray wrote:

Like the build^^ Youmuus first is a must-have imo, maybe take the Lantern first. All in all, a well guide.


You benefit more from Youmuu's Ghostblade then wriggle's lantarn. Thats why you first build The Brutalizer and finish it to Youmuu's Ghostblade.

Thanks for your votes guys!
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APCY | March 4, 2011 10:29am
good job.
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Asray (1) | March 4, 2011 8:45am
Like the build^^ Youmuus first is a must-have imo, maybe take the Lantern first. All in all, a well guide.
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DiEMOnd | March 4, 2011 6:46am
Best build for Xhin Zhao!
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 4, 2011 6:26am
Thanks alot Yonaz, nice you found yourself in this build, I would say keep use it and pwn some more.

Screenshots will be added soon to chapter Summary.
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yonaz (1) | March 4, 2011 6:18am
Here's my picture:
This is my match history of first 6 times with this build, and you can see there is quadra kill.

This is my best score from these 6 You can see a feeder ryze, she went mid against me and I killed her 3 times early game. (thats not the real pantheon, and ryze items, they were just trolling after we entered their base and I ripped them.

I don't know how stupid you should be to downvote this epic build. I favorited it, added you +rep and gave +1. Nice job.

BTW I was able to solo Baron with lantern/ghostblade/boots/tri-force/atma's. Really nice.
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 4, 2011 5:07am
So thats why you down vote? Can't believe people downvoting for such reasons. I explained why I level E up first, I bet you didn't even tryed it. 1 point in E at level one cause you want to be able to initiate a target, running to it is just no real option in the beginning, you wanna jump to it.

Anyways glad you find it interesting.
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noneeee (1) | March 4, 2011 4:58am
In my opinion, it is epic fail tallon strike in the end at lvl 5, also your "e" spell at lvl 1 and in th enda to 5, it make magic dmg and make more dmg with more ability power.

Except than skill queue, great and interestring guide for Xin.
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 4, 2011 12:00am
Thanks alot for trying the build and voting, appreciated.
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kraffslol | March 3, 2011 9:08pm
+1 Probably the best Xin build around
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Nessis | March 3, 2011 7:20pm
i did it xD
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Nessis | March 3, 2011 7:19pm
My first post on mobafire xD

Well this is the best xin zhao build i have seen so far... I played two games with it and they were easy wins... I wanted to ask why you use mana regen seals, i didn have any mana issus so i took attack speed seals and one quint in attack speed, what do you think of that??

I hope i am not boring but id love to hear yout opinion on some other stuf as well... What do you think of taking 9 points in defense and not in utility, dodge chance and speed after dodge work fine with ninja tabi and somethimes boost your speed for a kill... oh yeah, i allways droped the black cleaver and took atmas and warmong its the best combination i think, you are hard to take down so everybody focuses someone else while you burst out tons of damage( i had crits over 1k )...

Well i hope you have the will and time to answer it would be rally great xD

P.S. - i love to vote but i dont know how XD
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Guxz (3) | March 3, 2011 7:01pm
Best guide, exelent explanation, very good build, nothing more to say, congratulations. +1


Just one question, Do Xin Zhao's build changes depending on the team (magical or physical damage)?


The only "change" i made is that if i need more survibality i go for Frozen Mallet first and if not i go for Trinity.
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EndlessAnguish (1) | March 3, 2011 4:43pm
I'm not gna vote. Not my type. :P

u have a spelling error should be "laning Phase" not "laning fase"

good guide though.
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EndlessAnguish (1) | March 3, 2011 4:43pm
I'm not gna vote. Not my type. :P

u have a spelling error should be "laning Phase" not "laning fase"

good guide though.
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EndlessAnguish (1) | March 3, 2011 4:43pm
I'm not gna vote. Not my type. :P

u have a spelling error should be "laning Phase" not "laning fase"

good guide though.
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censure (1) | March 3, 2011 4:20pm
upvoted ^^
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censure (1) | March 3, 2011 4:20pm
This build worked really well, went 21/2 with it :D
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 3, 2011 1:05pm
You should really try the build first before you write non sense bullsh*t.
You downvote cause you won't make pentakills? Oh my sweet marie.

Thanks alot man for voting.
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lolivier | March 3, 2011 12:23pm
the previous build was better
you have no infinity edge or a phantom dancer and yoummu gives you 50% AS but only for 8sec which is not enought to do pentakills
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snorlax1 | March 3, 2011 8:43am
GBOB!
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 3, 2011 8:42am
Post your screenshot of ur score and ill add it to the guide :) Glad you liked it!
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yonaz (1) | March 3, 2011 7:31am
OMG so epic build I got 19-3-10 first time with this. My largest killing spree was 16 with a couple of double kills, one triple kill and one quadra at the end going 2v4 with udyr. :D
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 3, 2011 2:02am
He inspired me by his build and alot of the times he does good in games. He isn't so much attached to the game as most others and he is getting old :p
Anyways everyone has his own opinion about things as you.

Thank you for liking the build :)

Cheers for the comment.
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Hamduden (7) | March 3, 2011 1:28am
Jeez. Guardsman Bob is bad xD .. or well, he is in this video:

http://www.own3d.tv/video/66516/Guardsman_Bob__Xin_Zhao__1_

1: He doesn't use TTS to get last hits. Ehm. Why? Dunno. Maybe he would save it for gank, but c'mon. 10 sec CD? I believe it's okay to use it for last hits - it's ready when you need it.
Neither Audacious Charge is used for last hits even tho he got 100% mana, there is 3 minions with 2% HP and he is below his own tower. seriously.

2: He initiates in WTF-situations. Ulti is down, he is on 60%, and he tower dives Maplhite. Gj -.-' .. he even ruins awesome ganking situations and the opponents escapes.

3: He doesn't use battle cry on towers to get it down faster. Why? Dunno. If the enemy team comes to gank you at the tower, you'll run and don't think about killing them. Therefore it doesn't matter if it's on CD.

4: He doesn't use TTS to finish of Lizard to get red buff, even tho Mordekaiser is keeping the enemies away from him. This results in Lux getting the red buff.

5: He uses Cresent Strike when the enemies is at 50% .. also when they are all gathered at one spot.


Is hope it's different in his other videos. The build is pretty awesome I guess.


@Topic:
Great build and guide, no doubt! :p
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Yaphet | March 2, 2011 11:52pm
I absolutely RAPED with this build. OMG TY
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zowezaally (2) | March 2, 2011 3:25pm
+1
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vgfanatic2 | March 2, 2011 2:29pm
It's about time someone posted a good xin build. Most of the ones on here build almost all as and ad, with very little survivability. I've been using combinations of Guardsman Bob's build and Hotshotgg's for a while now, and it is so much more effective than pure offense.
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Ramaladni (3) | March 2, 2011 2:28pm
Must +1 because I am a fanboy, even without reading the guide.
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ZembowaWruszka (13) | March 2, 2011 2:18pm
wow?!
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Chobojay (2) | March 2, 2011 1:18pm
Well done my friend, this build is your best so far, love it. Keep it up bro ^^
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Sammsin (3) | March 2, 2011 11:39am
asd
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TheSensor | March 2, 2011 11:04am
Excellent
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Jeppesen | March 2, 2011 8:30am
regegegergreg
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Sammsin (3) | March 1, 2011 10:40pm
=+1
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infinitywolf (2) | March 1, 2011 10:13pm
looks like a good build! can't wait to try it out
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VAIReetaws (15) | March 1, 2011 4:07am
Thanks for rating my guide guys, appreciated.
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Jartsah | March 1, 2011 12:43am
Very good build!
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Jartsah | March 1, 2011 12:43am
Very good build!
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Zeprido (145) | March 1, 2011 12:39am
<3 Guardsman Bob
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XinZhaoFtW | February 28, 2011 8:18pm
great build
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XinZhaoFtW | February 28, 2011 8:17pm
Wow THANK YOU never used xin before so im like ww is getting boring so LETS TRY XIN ZHAO AND IM LIKE THIS BUILD LOOKS GOOD and i woned but i changed some things around took out warmogs black cleaver and atmas for phantom dancer frozen mallet and a infinity edge AND IT WOKRED PERFECTLY GRAET MOVE SPEED ATTACK SPEED AND DAMAGE
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GrimHawke (2) | February 28, 2011 1:36pm
Good build. I think three talon strike is a better pick at level 1, with audacious charge at 2 and battle cry at 3, but that's just me :)
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VAIReetaws (15) | February 28, 2011 12:22pm
Thanks dude for giving some input, you really make me think about that, using R skill before any other. I think first you have to ingage with E and finish with R,Q,W and ignite.
Gonna change that cause it just doesn't make any sense to safe R for last.

Alot of people underestimate a good Xin Zhao on mid lane, it can really rock the house. Most ranged carries dont expect a fighter mid. I often hear things from the opponent like "Didn't expect a melee fighter against me" Don't know how to act against it.

Cheers for your feedback and opinion.
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stramel | February 28, 2011 10:22am
Not really to sound like I know best or anything, but wouldn't his "deadly combo be better as either "RQWE ignite" or "ERQW ignite"? Opening up with R does more damage because they currently have more health and also gives you a magic resist and armor buff(50 each when maxed) for 8 secs . Throwing W on later in the combo reduces all your cooldowns you have blow already by 1 sec which can help significantly in team battles.

But this is just my input, my opinion, and how I roll :)

Great guide once again, and glad you keep updating it!

BTW: Mid'd for the first time today as xin out of my 100's of games played with him and whooped an ez! Felt great!
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bezempjuh | February 28, 2011 5:03am
realy love this build u will deal masive dmg and have some nice hp/armor ! simply love it!
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VAIReetaws (15) | February 28, 2011 12:42am
Thanks for voting guys, I appreciate it, cheers.
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stramel | February 27, 2011 7:58pm
Play Xin Zhao all the time, and honestly probably the most beastly build I've seen so far. Good work! I haven't got to black cleaver yet because I have just raped so hard lol
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teCma (1) | February 27, 2011 11:15am
Awesome build!
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VAIReetaws (15) | February 27, 2011 8:16am
Thanks Gravefury, runes are the only thing I couldn't really look into. Since he is US player. I will edit those A.S.A.P! Glad to make some die hard fans happy with this guide. Cheers for voting!
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Gravefury (8) | February 26, 2011 6:03pm
Guardsman Bob is pro xin!
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Gravefury (8) | February 26, 2011 6:02pm
the runes he use is 27 attack speed 8.4 armor and 6.4 armor pen
the rune page he uses is "BEAST FROM THE FAR EAST"
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Ponczi | February 26, 2011 11:47am
I've seen Guardsman Bob playing with this build and he pwned hard :) +1 ofc thanks for uploading this build here.
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Ponczi | February 26, 2011 11:47am
I've seen Guardsman Bob playing with this build and he pwned hard :) +1 ofc thanks for uploading this build here.
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LawlietRyu | February 25, 2011 6:30pm
agian me, had to vote +1 =)
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izzenwrath | February 25, 2011 9:09am
Upvoted.

Nice initiative, bu you need some formating on your wall of text.

Format your guide, and it will be perfect.
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izzenwrath | February 25, 2011 9:09am
Upvoted.

Nice initiative, bu you need some formating on your wall of text.

Format your guide, and it will be perfect.
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ZluBurK | February 25, 2011 7:25am
Best build ever :D
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LawlietRyu | February 25, 2011 6:58am
very nice, works pretty good
but the runes are not the ones guardsman is using. he uses those:

http://img192.imageshack.us/i/guardsmanxinrunes.jpg/
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VAIReetaws (15) | February 22, 2011 4:34am
Great to hear, thanks for your vote.
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superkyon | February 22, 2011 3:46am
This is a very nice build ^^ I'm a big fan of Guardsman Bob ^^
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VAIReetaws (15) | February 20, 2011 7:00am
Thanks Goolash for your vote.
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Dirty Goolash (36) | February 17, 2011 2:34pm
I've seen this in action (I too watch solomid streaming) and it works very effectively.
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VAIReetaws (15) | February 17, 2011 12:07pm
I totally agree, cool to see fan's on mobafire.
Thanks for your vote :)
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ShadowQQ (15) | February 17, 2011 9:54am
+1 Really good build and really nice write-up!Gj and we like players like BOB!