Caitlyn Build Guide by Moonedge

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League of Legends Build Guide Author Moonedge

How to carry: Caitlyn

Moonedge Last updated on May 20, 2012
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by kin333x » December 23, 2011 8:48pm | Report

PsiGuard wrote:


Yeah, don't. Anyone who gets armor is going to force you to buy Last Whisper. Any competent team is going to make life REALLY difficult for you if you build completely glass cannon.



I said i was noob Cait XD


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by Moonedge » December 23, 2011 10:21pm | Report

Nighthawk wrote:

:3

God I want to be a vet so I can know what Psi is saying in the vet forum...

I WILL GET MORE REP THEN YOU PSIIIII


Gratz on Vet.


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by searzocom » December 23, 2011 10:23pm | Report

(BTW DO NOT APPROACH ME IRL WITH ANYTHING CONCERNING WHAT I'VE POSTED HERE I WILL EITHER NOT EVEN RESPOND OR GO INTO A RAGING FRENZY JUST REPLY TO ME HERE, WHERE I CAN POST MY THOUGHTS IN A DIGNIFIED MANNER, WHERE I CAN REVIEW MY THOUGHTS B4 POSTING OR ELSE I MIGHT SAY SOMETHING WE WILL BOTH REGRET, OR EVEN WORSE I MIGHT SAY SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T CONTRIBUTE AT ALL TO THE ENRICHMENT OF CONTENT)

The entire guide is really lackluster. As it is right now its quite literally just a glorified build not worthy of being called a guide. There is none of the indepth information that the top tier guides provide. Which begs the question "Why read this when i could be reading something so much better?" (part of it really isn't really your fault this site is essentially a competition for +rep... also why i never use this site.). But since you insist on posting on this site if you want to be successful your going to have to aim at the very top anything short of that will not only be dismissed as inferior, but will encourage people to constantly churn out low quality guides that will (imo) run this site into the ground.

So back to the guide at hand, you really need to improve the quality of your guide, look at the top rated guides on this site and compare them OBJECTIVELY with your guide, i know from experience that this is a very hard thing to do, (esp for someone with your crazy *** ego). But i advise you to take action, and take action quickly because what i am seeing right now is something that is gonna get down-vote bombed into rating hell (good luck climbing outta there).

Now allow me to educate you on the main failing point of this guide, the fact that it isn't even a guide. The main selling point of a guide is the details on farming, laning, team-compositions, counters, and performance during teamfights. take those out and its not more usefull than the builds in the build-only section of this site.

However this guide's details on the most important part of a champ (team combat) is quite literally one very vague and undescriptive paragraph. You didn't even cover the intricate art of positioning during a teamfight. you just said stay behind tank, consider your audience, most of the people who read guides are relatively newer players looking for a fun champ to play. They couldve only previously had experience playing as a tank and they wont know **** about how to play a ranged ad carry, and its your responsibility as a guide author to educate them. Sure you can feed this guide to someone who has played ranged ad before but then... whats the point? They already know this stuff, again it comes back to the question "Why read this when i could be reading something so much better?". There needs to be a reason for me to want to read this 71% guide over the 91% one. And so far i'm not seeing one.

I know this was rather painful for you to read (don't lie to yourself or me it hurts reading this, and if it really truly didn't... you really should not be writing guides because you obviously don't care or understand the concept quality and standards). If this was anyone else i would not even bother wasting 2 seconds of my life as to even reply i would just vote-bomb it, leave a small snippet and leave. But as your friend i want you to succeed and i am providing you my advice to creating high professional grade content that would have a highly viable chance of competing with the absolute TOP of this site. You can choose to ignore it and continue with amateur results until u realize these things for yourself, or you can accept it and become a real high tier contribute to the community, your choice. I could say more (and believe me, i want to) but its getting rather long winded and if your not paying attention by now your not gonna pay any more attention to any further things i have to say. I wish you the best of luck...

TLDR: DOWNVOTE-NUKE INCOMNNING DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, YOU CAN START BY FKING READING MY SUGGESTIONS, AND GET A SOME ******* PREREADERS B4 CHURNING OUT NEW CONTENT, DON'T SAY I DIDN'T WARN YOU,

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by Moonedge » December 23, 2011 10:38pm | Report

searzocom wrote:

(BTW DO NOT APPROACH ME IRL WITH ANYTHING CONCERNING WHAT I'VE POSTED HERE I WILL EITHER NOT EVEN RESPOND OR GO INTO A RAGING FRENZY JUST REPLY TO ME HERE, WHERE I CAN POST MY THOUGHTS IN A DIGNIFIED MANNER, WHERE I CAN REVIEW MY THOUGHTS B4 POSTING OR ELSE I MIGHT SAY SOMETHING WE WILL BOTH REGRET, OR EVEN WORSE I MIGHT SAY SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T CONTRIBUTE AT ALL TO THE ENRICHMENT OF CONTENT)

The entire guide is really lackluster. As it is right now its quite literally just a glorified build not worthy of being called a guide. There is none of the indepth information that the top tier guides provide. Which begs the question "Why read this when i could be reading something so much better?" (part of it really isn't really your fault this site is essentially a competition for +rep... also why i never use this site.). But since you insist on posting on this site if you want to be successful your going to have to aim at the very top anything short of that will not only be dismissed as inferior, but will encourage people to constantly churn out low quality guides that will (imo) run this site into the ground.

So back to the guide at hand, you really need to improve the quality of your guide, look at the top rated guides on this site and compare them OBJECTIVELY with your guide, i know from experience that this is a very hard thing to do, (esp for someone with your crazy *** ego). But i advise you to take action, and take action quickly because what i am seeing right now is something that is gonna get down-vote bombed into rating hell (good luck climbing outta there).

Now allow me to educate you on the main failing point of this guide, the fact that it isn't even a guide. The main selling point of a guide is the details on farming, laning, team-compositions, counters, and performance during teamfights. take those out and its not more usefull than the builds in the build-only section of this site.

However this guide's details on the most important part of a champ (team combat) is quite literally one very vague and undescriptive paragraph. You didn't even cover the intricate art of positioning during a teamfight. you just said stay behind tank, consider your audience, most of the people who read guides are relatively newer players looking for a fun champ to play. They couldve only previously had experience playing as a tank and they wont know **** about how to play a ranged ad carry, and its your responsibility as a guide author to educate them. Sure you can feed this guide to someone who has played ranged ad before but then... whats the point? They already know this stuff, again it comes back to the question "Why read this when i could be reading something so much better?". There needs to be a reason for me to want to read this 71% guide over the 91% one. And so far i'm not seeing one.

I know this was rather painful for you to read (don't lie to yourself or me it hurts reading this, and if it really truly didn't... you really should not be writing guides because you obviously don't care or understand the concept quality and standards). If this was anyone else i would not even bother wasting 2 seconds of my life as to even reply i would just vote-bomb it, leave a small snippet and leave. But as your friend i want you to succeed and i am providing you my advice to creating high professional grade content that would have a highly viable chance of competing with the absolute TOP of this site. You can choose to ignore it and continue with amateur results until u realize these things for yourself, or you can accept it and become a real high tier contribute to the community, your choice. I could say more (and believe me, i want to) but its getting rather long winded and if your not paying attention by now your not gonna pay any more attention to any further things i have to say. I wish you the best of luck...

TLDR: DOWNVOTE-NUKE INCOMNNING DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, YOU CAN START BY FKING READING MY SUGGESTIONS, AND GET A SOME ******* PREREADERS B4 CHURNING OUT NEW CONTENT, DON'T SAY I DIDN'T WARN YOU,


Or, rather than that, I can take the advice from the people that have been doing this forever who have told me it's fine, I've told enough with it being shoved down the throats of readers. It's a good guide, and people can understand it as it is. I'm not going to change the way I want to do things just to please you, and the supposed "Downvote nuke". I already got it proof read 3 times, and got a review already. Honestly, be glad I'm not doing what Mr.CasterMaster is doing, because no he isn't the best Xerath ever, nor am I the best Caitlyn ever. Am I the best on this site? Probably not, but I wont know until I let people decide for me.

I'm glad you're trying to help me, but how about seeing how I fair solo on this one?


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by PsiGuard » December 23, 2011 10:53pm | Report

Nicely handled, Moon. I'm impressed.

I always see this guy's, name when I search for Searz. Never seen him post before O.O

Basically he could have just said "needs more information on team fights" and accomplished the same level of criticism. It's kinda sad that he resorted to practically flaming your guide for reasons I'm unaware of.


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by Nighthawk » December 23, 2011 10:54pm | Report

Wow...

someone pissed in their cheerios and then decided to post a giant wall of text..

And I even read it.

Can I have 30 seconds of my life back?

Guide is fine, it doesn't need more aesthetics, or in depth detail, it's fine the way it is.

Some people don't want to write long *** pieces of work like that, and it's up to them. Build is solid and guide is solid anyways so there is literally NOTHING to complain about.

I'm not even sure it would get any better if he did include walls of text about ****.

And thanks for the gratz Moon :3






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by Moonedge » December 23, 2011 11:24pm | Report

I know him IRL, I'm on voicechat with him. He just thinks that I should take his advice and get help, which is exactly what I asked for from Psi, and I didn't need to change much.


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by searzocom » December 23, 2011 11:42pm | Report

Really? you guys are the highest repped on mobafire?

I suppose it doesn't really matter one bit. If the community approves this as the highest standard, who am i to say different? All i can say is, this is far below my standards. Normally i don't care and i rarely come to this site anyway except when one of my closer friends decicde to post something on this site. i've repped moonedge several times, commented on his guides and upvoted them before, why? Because they were good, they deserved my time and that upvote.

But this time i was disappointed by the quality of a guide written by a friend of mine, so naturally i want to take the time to point out some things about quality of content. I would be sorely pissed off if one of my best LoL buddies became an ******* who ***** out really bad guides in the hopes of grabbing rep+.

(also waay out of context here: *brohoof)

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by Moonedge » December 23, 2011 11:51pm | Report

searzocom wrote:

Really? you guys are the highest repped on mobafire?

I suppose it doesn't really matter one bit. If the community approves this as the highest standard, who am i to say different? All i can say is, this is far below my standards. Normally i don't care and i rarely come to this site anyway except when one of my closer friends decicde to post something on this site. i've repped moonedge several times, commented on his guides and upvoted them before, why? Because they were good, they deserved my time and that upvote.

But this time i was disappointed by the quality of a guide written by a friend of mine, so naturally i want to take the time to point out some things about quality of content. I would be sorely pissed off if one of my best LoL buddies became an ******* who ***** out really bad guides in the hopes of grabbing rep+.

(also waay out of context here: *brohoof)


Look at this legitimately, My Wukong? Total garbage, the only one I wrote that actually had any thought into it was this one, and I'm not going to change my views to appease one person. I'm sorry if you feel this way, but don't worry, I'm in this for the satisfaction of giving people who need guides, good guides. Rep can blow me at this point, it's almost as pointless as ELO if you think about it. And the fact that you and I are so hung up on getting our ELO higher makes little to no sense.

And lastly, no one guide here is truly a guide to someone. Please just let me run my course and see what happens for better or for worse. And if it's still that bad, just remind yourself, if you're giving me advice on how to make mine better... prove me wrong and make your own.

I'll take part in the *brohoof.


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by PsiGuard » December 23, 2011 11:57pm | Report

@searzocom: Guides aren't tools to get Rep (there isn't even a +Rep button on the guide, you have to find a post), and I don't know a single person who writes a guide with that intention in mind. Night and I are far from the highest Rep on the site; I think Moon was just happy to get some more attention on his guide with more than "+1 nice guide" in the comments.

I do think you're right, searzocom, about the gist of your wall of text. You said that Moon needed to work on adding more detail, more information besides just the build, namely gameplay strategies, team fights and positioning. There's nothing wrong with giving criticism like that, especially when it's true and constructive.

I just think you could have been a lot more objective and straightforward with your criticism. It's fine to say you're disappointed with the guide, whether it's to a friend or not. The way you presented your argument basically said that his guide was doomed to utter failure and he is basically filling the site with **** on purpose.

I just think that was unnecessary.


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