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2) The reasoning behind Janna's AP ratios is fine. However, as I reiterate again (for the 4th or 5th time), you do not have the farm and gold of an AP mid. Therefore, getting high AP items is difficult.
3) That's not what you said. You said:
When they actually are. In fact, Fiddlesticks and Zyra are very popular picks at the moment. What you DO NOT show is a balance between nuking and supporting. Look at your build. How many items are support items? The answer is one (with a questionable Morellonomicon). If only 1/6 items are support items, and 5/6 are AP items, that's not called balanced.
4) There are so many items you overlook that you can build in the interim and even have during the end-game.
Twin Shadows, Shard of True Ice, Abyssal Mask, Athene's Unholy Grail (initially built from Chalice of Harmony), Haunting Guise into a Liandry's Torment...
There are so many other items paths that you could consider that would make the most of your limited gold.
5) I do not take this guide seriously. Which is why I have downvoted it. Your 'insight' is flawed and you fail to see it.
6) 3 'budget items' does not make up for the fact that you still have to spend over 6K gold just for two items. Sheen also counts towards Lich Bane and as a component part, is not actually as useful for Janna. Haunting Guise is not just a defensive item... it's taken for the extremely gold efficient Magic Penetration which nullifies any magic resist they may build, i.e Aegis of the Legion/ Locket of the Iron Solari. Your end-game also does not, most critically, either keep Ruby Sightstone or have a slot for wards. However, since your opponent is merely bots, I guess this isn't really a problem.
7) It is not ridicule to say that no guide is needed to win against bots. On beginner's mode, they literally rush to their deaths, they itemize ****ly (last time I played, Ryze was still rushing Doran's Rings).
As I said, anything works in bot games. Bot games are even easier than Bronze level games. Therefore a guide of AI bot game level is worse than Bronze level. This is not a ridicule, but merely an observation.
I was not ridiculing you when I said it, but by this time, I grow weary and I am currently feeling very contemptuous of you. Now I am assuredly of the opinion that it is extremely ridiculous to make a guide for AI bot games, especially when you can win an AI bot game practically blindfolded.
Think about it seriously, and I mean this with the best of what little interest I have left, but who would honestly need a guide for bot games? If I'm looking for a guide, I'll look for one which tells me how to play the champion, not how to beat bots. In other words, your target audience doesn't actually exist. They'll look at other guides which will fit their requirements, because (and bear with me on this one) your guide sucks.
1) I didn't ridicule you. I saw something that I don't think should ever be on a support and voted. You then went to my blog and ridiculed ME. I was not joking when I said there is no need for a guide to play against bots.
2) The GP10s are to cover the lack of CS you get as a support. It is, however, not a means to afford 2 3K+ items.
3) You say it's not a guide for support but then you say it's for hybrid APC/support. Which means it's still a guide for support and the playstyle doesn't change all that much. You are not the first to think to build AP on some support champs ( Lux, Orianna, Soraka, Fiddlesticks). It makes no difference. No AP support worth listening to ever built Rabadon's Deathcap. They go for budget based AP items, like Haunting Guise, Morellonomicon and so on.
4) If this guide isn't meant to be taken seriously, why are you taking it so seriously? Chill dude. I only think it's wrong and downvoted. No need to check on my profile, go to my blog and flame me or anything.
5) AP supports are quite common actually.
gp10 doesn't cover the money needed for rabadon's and lich bane, that's why i included the gold gain from assists/kills you should have already by the end of the game.
janna's ap ratios are ridiculous, that's why i chose to build rabadon's and other ap heavy items.
i know there are ap supports, but i wrote this build to show a balance between nuking and supporting on janna.
still, understand, those 3k+ items are the last you build. most likely you wouldn't be able to build them in most of your matches because most matches would be over by then. with janna's high ap ratios, janna makes good use of rabadon's, and helping her push past 500 ap at endgame. lich bane is also a great item, but i know it isn't worth the gold as much; however, you can get 2 procs from janna's q. however, building a sheen earlier on is great for the added 100+ damage every 2 seconds for just the cost of 1200 gold.
i take this guide seriously, but you and any other reader do not have to. again, "you ultimately decide how you play." this guide was to give you insight on one of my builds for janna.
btw, i do have budget items, as i suggest morellonomicon to be rushed. sheen and mejai's soulstealer are also cheap items that heavily boost your damage output. i don't suggest very many health bonus items, as janna's skills revolve around her survival already, so i don't build items like a haunting guise.
also...
There are only 2 3K+ gold items, because you'll be owning bot lane enough to buy them endgame. Those 2 items are the last that you build.
The gp10 from runes and items should help you get them faster, and even more so with your adc fed and you having all the assists. Again, this guide was not meant to be taken too seriously, as I stated that you decide what items are best for your team. If you don't like a dps support hybrid Janna, I'll understand your downvote because hybrid supports aren't common, but you don't have to ridicule me like that.
btw this isn't a guide for support -- it's for hybrid apc/support, which gives you the ability to deal good damage to the enemy team while shielding/supporting with your epic ap ratios on your skills
1) I didn't ridicule you. I saw something that I don't think should ever be on a support and voted. You then went to my blog and ridiculed ME. I was not joking when I said there is no need for a guide to play against bots.
2) The GP10s are to cover the lack of CS you get as a support. It is, however, not a means to afford 2 3K+ items.
3) You say it's not a guide for support but then you say it's for hybrid APC/support. Which means it's still a guide for support and the playstyle doesn't change all that much. You are not the first to think to build AP on some support champs ( Lux, Orianna, Soraka, Fiddlesticks). It makes no difference. No AP support worth listening to ever built Rabadon's Deathcap. They go for budget based AP items, like Haunting Guise, Morellonomicon and so on.
4) If this guide isn't meant to be taken seriously, why are you taking it so seriously? Chill dude. I only think it's wrong and downvoted. No need to check on my profile, go to my blog and flame me or anything.
5) AP supports are quite common actually.
You want to buy multiple 3K+ gold items on a support champ?
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btw this isn't a guide for support -- it's for hybrid apc/support, which gives you the ability to deal good damage to the enemy team while shielding/supporting with your epic ap ratios on your skills
You want to buy multiple 3K+ gold items on a support champ?
-1.
There are only 2 3K+ gold items, because you'll be owning bot lane enough to buy them endgame. Those 2 items are the last that you build.
The gp10 from runes and items should help you get them faster, and even more so with your adc fed and you having all the assists. Again, this guide was not meant to be taken too seriously, as I stated that you decide what items are best for your team. If you don't like a dps support hybrid Janna, I'll understand your downvote because hybrid supports aren't common, but you don't have to ridicule me like that.
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