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I like the build, I don't use it every game, but its fun to try now and again. Also it sucks how jarvan guides get trolled some of the hardest on here...I don't understand why people get so competitive on this site. I always read at least the top 3 generally the top 10 guides of a champion before I cast a vote or even use a build, so its not like position even matters on the chart. Just because one guide has more votes does not necessarily mean that guide is the better one. I really wish mobafire would crack down better on the harassment and mass down voting by other guide makers.

Thanks :) @joe9898x and to Unstoppable I will post a vid up asap and show you it in effect. Thanks for the comment.

Great build lost but still went 5-2-4 in 20 mins

I used this for the first time today, I really noticed the weak early game dmg output and armor. I do find maxing out GA out first really interesting but I have no idea how to use it effectively.

You should try to release gameplay vids of you using it effectively. Your description on how to use it is a bit hazy. Other than that I'm going to wait to give you my +1

Don't like it.

Do you honestly not speak English? Are you that damn stupid.. what don't you get when I said I prove and my GUIDE proves it ain't constructive... Just stay off my guide, I handle myself fine thanks and one thing I don't need is advice from you. I upvoted you just cause I'm a nice person and have no need to compete with you like you seem to be with everyone else. Take your own advice yeah, this is a place where people come to see guides and learn not to fight. I'm not going to continue arguing with someone who just doesn't get it.

My last reply to you, I'm done. I really don't care what you say anymore, it's people like you who are so damn annoying and can't see straight facts when they're right infront of them.
Keep your opinions to yourself they ain't helping anyone.

I'm beginning to wonder who the troll is here. I don't care if you don't think it's constructive criticism, but it is, and maybe you just need to redefine your definition. I didn't downvote you and I agree trolls suck but you need to handle yourself a little bit better.

Okay I'm only gona say this once and not repeat myself like you..

Firstly I didn't accuse you of making alts I accused who ever was making those ******ed comments but good work on making yourself a suspect lol..

Secondly I've proved/told you why and how it aint constructive and how it isn't helpful at all, my guide itself shows that. So think to yourself who is the one making the fool of themselves?

And can't handle down votes lol? I can handle down votes aslong as they aren't "DTYU" or "**** you... lame" cause tbh people should have better things to do with their lives the write stupid remarks.

I never played this "blame game" you talk of it was an "in general" statement.. Here's a tip ENGAGE YOUR BRAIN.

I don't make alts, I said your guide was good, and it IS constructive criticism.

Just because you don't agree with my ideas doesn't mean they aren't viable, don't make a fool of yourself, please.

And for the record, HugMyPanda is a liar, dont know why you're turning on me when I'm trying to be nice. I don't see anything as a competition, if It was, and I was trolling, I'd have downvoted your guide and said something like "DTYU"

Here's you: OH NO A DOWNVOTE **** I CANT TAKE IT RAWR!!!!! *turns hostile and plays blamegame*

Thanks I really apreciate it and yeah kinda annoying how the good guides are the ones getting trolled lol. But it shows that your guide works seeing as even with the current trolling yours remains on top.

i actually kinda like this guide, and because the other terrible jarvan guides are trying to troll you, you get an upvote from me :)