General Guide by Xenasis

Hmm, good question.

Comparing Fiora to Shyvana -
Worse speeds
Worse camp based counter jungling (run in, kill camp (usually wraiths), run out)
Slightly worse flexibility with routes (Fiora starting at red isn't bad, not having blue isn't the end of the world)
Better sustain
Better duelling capability (and therefore duel based counter jungling)
Slightly better ganks (though really you don't pick either for their ganks)
Similar scaling into late game



I'd pick Fiora over Shyvana if my team had a tanky top/mid and needed some proper AD damage. As an example, if it's Nautilus top and Morde mid or something like that, we don't have any real AD damage other than the carry, and we'd be tanky enough as it is.

Jungle wise, Fiora can duel almost anybody given they're equal levels. I find her a good pick against Shaco if you can play against him, her R follows his Q and if you find him in your jungle, you can easily out-duel him. Anybody you feel you can pin down and are restricted in their routes (like Amumu) are good, too. She has no CC, but if you find them where you expect to find them, then you WILL beat them in a fight.

Okay, that certainly makes sense. So they'll both totally snowball into late game if they do well, but Fiora is more about killing and harassing the enemy jungler in their route. Okay. Thank you!

Glad I could be off assistance!

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great job.

Do you know Stonewall on youtube? He's a great jungler in my oppinion and you may want to include some of his video matherial in your guide (like leashing)
here's the link

I have indeed seen his videos!

I actually used to have a video (he has now privated/deleted) on this guide where he mentioned how you couldn't jungle without smite. Sadly, it was set to private or deleted, and as such, I have since removed it.

I would include some, but I think that would be more stealing somebody else's content than making my own. Maybe it's a personal thing, but I'd rather explain it myself than let somebody else (despite the fact I respect their opinion) do it. Other than his leashing video, and his smite one (he may have one on the jungling triad, but I forgot), they are all champion specific, so I wouldn't include those.

I follow his stuff on Reign of Gaming, too. Not religiously, admittedly - but I like seeing his point of view, and how well a new champion fares in jungling before they're released in the EU.

Amazing +1

Very detailed, exceptionally well done. This guide has helped me so much. Great work! +1

I have a short question regarding the Junglers Suited for Summoners Not Level 30/Runeless section and the viable junglers section. I am level 14 in LoL and i don't have any runes. Recently i bought myself Nocturne and thought about jungling with him, but in the first section you do not mention him as a good jungler to start off with and i didn't really know if i should jungle with him at this level. But in the viadble junglers section you say that he is a good pick for new players.

So what i want to know, is Nocturne a good character to jungle with without runes and below level 30?

Other than this i love your guide, taught me a lot about jungling.

I said, regarding tier 1 are "USUALLY a good starting point for new players". I guess this is true of Nocturne in the sense that he's a good entry level ganking jungler. He's completely viable in all stages of elo, don't get me wrong (and saw much usage at Hanover), but he's easy to play, but as with most junglers, hard to master. I'd say he's the easiest ganking oriented jungler to play, though one could argue ganking oriented junglers aren't the easiest to play in general.

I didn't say Nocturne was bad to start off with, but he's certainly not the best. He's not too bad, though. If you get a pull at blue, you should be topped off health wise throughout your jungle if you get 9 points in defence.

Start with Q and take E at level 2 (may net a kill if you're lucky). Start ganking at 2 and continue throughout your jungle afterwards.

He has pretty straight forward ganks, too. Press R > Q > E and press W when a spell comes at you.

If you've already got him, give him a shot in a custom game. If you can do it without a pull, you can easily do it with one, as a rule of thumb!

Thanks. Tried him out in custom and finished my route just barely without a leash. After that i successfully jungled in 4 P vs.P matches.

Thanks for the advice, and once again, great guide.