get
prime

Kassadin Build Guide by RuminatingWin

Not Updated For Current Season

This guide has not yet been updated for the current season. Please keep this in mind while reading. You can see the most recently updated guides on the browse guides page.


358K
Views
93
Comments
112
Votes
League of Legends Build Guide Author RuminatingWin

Kiss My Kass

RuminatingWin Last updated on November 16, 2013
Like Build on Facebook Tweet This Build Share This Build on Reddit

Quick Comment

You need to log in before commenting.

[-] Collapse All Comments

Sort Comments By
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | April 27, 2013 3:52pm

+1 Vote and Rep m8. This is excellent and I really love the in depth information you gave. I never build exactly like anyone's guide says but your definitely gave me some new ideas and that's what matters most. Lich Bane was a choice I hadn't considered which I will definitely give a whirl next game. But do you not like the Ice Born Gauntlet? Just curious if you ran it as it gives a ton of beneficial stats to Kassidan and you still get the proc of the sheen. I am still new to Kassidan as evident by my very rough bot game last night. But his late game potential is extraordinary. Again many thanks! Cheers!


The only problem with Ice Born Gauntlets is that the extra damage scales off your AD. Otherwise it isn't a bad item choice. The ability cooldown granted is great for Riftwalk and the armor is nice for survivability. Don't let anyone tell you ability cool down is bad for Kassadin, every second counts for Riftwalk and that's why Riot nerfed the cooldown from rank 3 at three seconds to 5 seconds. I would use ice born over lich bane if the AD champions are a problem, otherwise Lich Bane is more cost effective and deals or damage on Kassadin.
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | April 27, 2013 3:48pm

Lich bane is probably imo a must on Kassidan the damage output is insane with this and helps remarkably with kills. Though I do like the double rod of ages for the tankiness still it takes a while to build two and lich bane really feels like a necessary early item for me. TOG is also another item I think is needed early. with the low cool down on his Ult you will have that puppy maxed in no time and the mana increase plus damage AP from the AAS is essential I then finish out a Athena's Unholy Grail if I have time. all in all this guide has been of great benefit and I have run many successful test games with it. Time to try PVP.


Thanks for the vote! I'll admit this build is a little tricky if you make mistakes or aren't too experienced with Kassadin. Double RoA helps in that aspect but you lose damage output. It's a trade off.
1
[-]
Lazarus Blade (3) | April 23, 2013 9:23am
Lich bane is probably imo a must on Kassidan the damage output is insane with this and helps remarkably with kills. Though I do like the double rod of ages for the tankiness still it takes a while to build two and lich bane really feels like a necessary early item for me. TOG is also another item I think is needed early. with the low cool down on his Ult you will have that puppy maxed in no time and the mana increase plus damage AP from the AAS is essential I then finish out a Athena's Unholy Grail if I have time. all in all this guide has been of great benefit and I have run many successful test games with it. Time to try PVP.
1
[-]
Lazarus Blade (3) | April 14, 2013 6:55am
+1 Vote and Rep m8. This is excellent and I really love the in depth information you gave. I never build exactly like anyone's guide says but your definitely gave me some new ideas and that's what matters most. Lich Bane was a choice I hadn't considered which I will definitely give a whirl next game. But do you not like the Ice Born Gauntlet? Just curious if you ran it as it gives a ton of beneficial stats to Kassidan and you still get the proc of the sheen. I am still new to Kassidan as evident by my very rough bot game last night. But his late game potential is extraordinary. Again many thanks! Cheers!
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | April 5, 2013 6:40pm
brkl789 wrote:

Guide looks nice and I see you've put a lot of information in it. I rarely play with Kassadin and I never thought of taking Lich Bane on him, but it seems like an interesting item. Will definitely try it out. +1 from me


Ty, I +rep you
1
[-]
brkl789 (21) | April 5, 2013 2:59pm
Guide looks nice and I see you've put a lot of information in it. I rarely play with Kassadin and I never thought of taking Lich Bane on him, but it seems like an interesting item. Will definitely try it out. +1 from me
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | January 10, 2013 7:35am

Great guide, 1+, but here is some thing i want you to consider for coding. [ icon = kassadin size=60 ],
will yeild a good looking , and i thought that might look good as it stands our more.
i saw you use it in your items section, but its kinda hard to find stuff in the match ups section and other places when i need to look at soemthing right before a game, just a suggestion :)


Ok thank you. i was actually wondering if they were too small.
1
[-]
Le Pro of d00m (24) | January 9, 2013 7:06pm
Great guide, 1+, but here is some thing i want you to consider for coding. [ icon = kassadin size=60 ],
will yeild a good looking , and i thought that might look good as it stands our more.
i saw you use it in your items section, but its kinda hard to find stuff in the match ups section and other places when i need to look at soemthing right before a game, just a suggestion :)
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | December 26, 2012 2:57pm
chonogear wrote:

What the point of building so much mana? Only reason I find is for stacking riftwalk and it's kinda useless since fix of stack/ap scale ratio. Perhaps mana shield from embrace is fine for survival purpose but rushing archangel will cripple your ap and burst. And well, perhaps i'm dummy, but how Kassadin supposed to charge tear? He lacks cheap or low-cd skills that do the trick. Why so much headache instead of just building RoA which gives sufficient mana for using his skills smartly and also load of desperately needed hp and ap.


When you say "...RoA which gives sufficient mana for using his skills smartly" you're acknowledging Kassadin is limited by his mana pool.

I don't know where you got the information that Kassadin's Riftwalk isn't worth stacking. They may have changed the ratio but it still has the highest potential damage. But that's besides the point. Riftwalk is his utility/logistics making it his most important spell. Without Riftwalk Kassadin becomes useless. You end up saving a lot more Health by dodging spells with Riftwalk than what RoA gives you. No matter what way look at it you have to stack Riftwalk to be effective with Kassadin!

As for Ability power archangel's gives more ability power than rod of ages right off the bat. By the time you buy archangle's Kassadin will have about 1000 mana which brings archangel's to 80 AP. At that point RoA will give 60.

Charging stacks for Tear?? That is a silly question. Nether Blade costs 25 mana. It seems like your pretty new to Kassadin otherwise you would know that or you just didn't read my guide. I thoroughly evaluated each of the subjects you're asking about in great detail.

And btw, my second build starts off with RoA. It builds health so that's why it's call 'Constition'. I really insist that you do more than skim a build when you vote/comment cause you're obviously missing a lot of valuable information.
1
[-]
chonogear | December 26, 2012 4:07am
What the point of building so much mana? Only reason i find is for stacking riftwalk and it's kinda useless since fix of stack/ap scale ratio. Perhaps mana shield from embrace is fine for survival purpose but rushing archangel will cripple your ap and burst. And well, perhaps i'm dummy, but how Kassadin supposed to charge tear? He lacks cheap or low-cd skills that do the trick. Why so much headache instead of just building RoA which gives sufficient mana for using his skills smartly and also load of desperately needed hp and ap.
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | December 20, 2012 7:22pm
F3ar0ner wrote:

Lol, nice title, through you may want to change the 74% part ;)


lol! <3
1
[-]
F3ar0ner (22) | December 11, 2012 5:10pm
Lol, nice title, through you may want to change the 74% part ;)
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | November 15, 2012 5:41pm
utopus wrote:

I'm upvoting this guide, because it definately deserves to have a rating higher than a 73%.

However, I'm really skeptical of many of the ideas you proposed in this build. For instance, you propose building a catalyst the protector, but upgrade it into a Banshee's Veil, rather than a Rod of Ages. Rod of ages is pretty damn hard to beat, since it also deals with kasses' mana problems, and also gives health and AP, whereas Banshee's veil offers less health, less mana, and much less AP. I don't find the spell shield very useful; Kassadin is known to have some of the best mobility in the game, so most of the time, he can escape unfavorable encounters, and for the unfortunate times in which he can't, the spell shield from Banshee's Veil doesn't really help much. Plus, Void Stone and Lich Bane already offer plenty of Magic resist throughout the game. You seem pretty bent on having Lich Bane in your guide, so i won't mess with that - it is YOUR guide afterall, and it is pretty unique.

Of course, not dissing Banshee's Veil at all. It should definately be in the situational build, but it looks weird having it in the core build.

Lastly, Cleanse > Ignite WUT DE... Why not capitalize on kass's strong lane presense post-level-6?
Ignite can definately yield some kills!

+1 anyways, good work. If you like my comments or ideas, please feel free to + rep me, or check out my guide! ;)


Thanks for the up vote! I have to agree with you since I feel my guide is a little underrated considering the time I've spent working on it. I'm happy you put in a genuine effort to respond to it. Not many people put in that much effort and it's refreshing to see. I'll give you +reputation for doing so. I'm also going to read your guide. :)

I've already explained why I prefer Cleanse so I won't bother to defend myself there. If you really want to put it to the test then fight 1 v 1 with another Kassadin while he uses Ignite and you use Cleanse. You can purge a silence/Ignite for the win.

As for banshee's veil over Rod of Ages...We'll I have been debating replacing Banshee's Veil with Rod of Ages since I recognize it's the meta for Kassadin right now. Putting it in the situational section seems like a good idea. I'm going to test building Rod of Ages and then Archangel's Staff to see how it goes with that build order.
1
[-]
utopus (297) | November 14, 2012 5:51am
I'm upvoting this guide, because it definately deserves to have a rating higher than a 73%.

However, I'm really skeptical of many of the ideas you proposed in this build. For instance, you propose building a catalyst the protector, but upgrade it into a Banshee's Veil, rather than a Rod of Ages. Rod of ages is pretty damn hard to beat, since it also deals with kasses' mana problems, and also gives health and AP, whereas Banshee's veil offers less health, less mana, and much less AP. I don't find the spell shield very useful; Kassadin is known to have some of the best mobility in the game, so most of the time, he can escape unfavorable encounters, and for the unfortunate times in which he can't, the spell shield from Banshee's Veil doesn't really help much. Plus, Void Stone and Lich Bane already offer plenty of Magic resist throughout the game. You seem pretty bent on having Lich Bane in your guide, so i won't mess with that - it is YOUR guide afterall, and it is pretty unique.

Of course, not dissing Banshee's Veil at all. It should definately be in the situational build, but it looks weird having it in the core build.

Lastly, Cleanse > Ignite WUT DE... Why not capitalize on kass's strong lane presense post-level-6?
Ignite can definately yield some kills!

+1 anyways, good work. If you like my comments or ideas, please feel free to + rep me, or check out my guide! ;)
1
[-]
rays22 | November 7, 2012 9:39pm
U have a point there cleanse is very usefull...i just suggested the combination of heal and ignite because i use them in my games and i have never lost with kassa so i thought to share this gameplay style with you.Also i take lich bane to kassa like you,it's the best item for kassa in early game.I have seen many players take rabandon's and i don't understand why.
I think i will try your build and see the results maybe it helps me.
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | November 1, 2012 1:23pm

Very good guide that certainly deserves the high spot it has. Ireally like your explanation abiyt no Rabadons. +1


*Salutes*
1
[-]
Roronoa EvrIs (63) | October 31, 2012 7:49am
Very good guide that certainly deserves the high spot it has. Ireally like your explanation abiyt no Rabadons. +1
1
[-]
rokushoger (7) | October 25, 2012 9:00pm
exellent guide, very detailed, and good build, im not a expert on kassadin and cant said if this is the best build, but your guide is awesome, a lot of information!!! good job, and sorry for my english
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | October 24, 2012 11:01am
rays22 wrote:

dude nice build but u make a big mistake nether blade need to level up in lv2 not 5 because kassa need mana regen, in early game force pulse is useless....and heal or flash is better than cleanse.


Thanks, Rays. I appreciate it. I put a lot of work into this guide and its still not finished so its good to hear good things in light of that.

I explained the skill selection choices in depth. I think you should go over that section and get back to me. Do that or read my reply to sleepyperson which is posted right after your comment.

Heal is pretty meager on Kassadin especially late game since it becomes practically useless during a team fight if you get stun locked or chain CC'd. Check out my summoner spells section and get back to me on that also. Flash is viable and is a matter of preference over Cleanse, again getting stun locked or chain CC'd is a problem, flash won't prevent those combos if your getting teamed up on but cleanse will. At the same time you can use flash to dodge skill shots if your careful. Remember Cleanse removes Ignite!!
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | October 24, 2012 10:42am

I really like this guid :)
Even if i build him a little bit diferent, because i don't like such a passiv start with Kassadin.
I prefer building:
Boots + 3 heal --> 2 Dorans Ring --> lvl 2 boots + Lichbane

I know Dorans Ring build in nothing, but in my opinion it's great for him, because it gives you everthink you want. If the game last long enough, that you have to sell them, this ammount of gold won't make such a difference. But it's only my opinion :)

I also prefer to get one early point in Nether Blade at Level 2 - and max. it out last- , because it can give you some Mana, when you last hit Minions, and also allows you to last hit EVERY Minion even under the tower - also the big ones.

Perhaps you will ask: Why under the tower?
Infact it's an simple answer: Many Champions can push Kassadin - pre Lvl 6 - out of the lane or put him under a big pressure and often it's much easier and safer to farm under you own tower, before you reach Level 6. Additionaly this is quiete easy to do with one point in Nether Blade and it's also don't burn mana, because you will get atleast the 25 Mana back.

Before you flame me: Don't play him if you get bullied in lane before Level 6 - you should try to lane against a good Swain, Cassa or co. - I'm sure you will recognise it's quiete hard before Level 6 if you don't want to lose to many minion kills - Furthermore you often get focused by the opposite jungler, because good ones will also know, Kassadin will have a hard time if he have to recall early or dies even early.
I hope this comment is usefull for you :)

sleepy-person


First, thanks for taking the time to check out my guide and offering some constructive criticism. I'm very glad to see someone else that agrees with Lich Bane on Kassadin. It's often overlooked and underestimated even though it has great potential. Most people don't even realize it has a movement speed bonus on it.

I've tried Doran's Ring on Kassadin. Its definitely viable but I don't like how it doesn't build into anything and keeps Kassadin's base mana pool at 230 which only allows for 3 Null Sphere casts in a short duration. On top of the extra mana I like Sapphire Crystal early on to get Catalyst the Protector right away. Boots of Speed is a very safe way of playing a lot of casters early game and I am currently developing my own strategy that may include Boots of Speed as a starting item. I'm thinking I might also include Doran's Ring at the early phase of the second build. It would nicely compliment the vitality runes. What do you think about that?

As for Force Pulse over nether blade I find that going in and auto attacking for mana refund isn't worth the risk of staying in the hot zone during the fight. It's to easy to force Kassadin back and keep him at bay with low health so that you can't benefit from Nether Blade passive mana regeneration. Also, since you mentioned that jungle ganks are a concern, which they are, you should account for Force Pulse AOE slow which is much more useful than Nether Blade for avoiding such ganks. With diligent conservation (pace that spell usage) and the yellow Greater Seal of Scaling Mana Regeneration I often find that I have more mana than I need and sometimes without ever putting a point into Nether Blade.
1
[-]
rays22 | October 24, 2012 4:15am
dude nice build but u make a big mistake nether blade need to level up in lv2 not 5 because kassa need mana regen, in early game force pulse is useless....and heal or flash is better than cleanse.
1
[-]
sleepy-person (1) | October 22, 2012 2:55pm
I really like this guid :)
Even if i build him a little bit diferent, because i don't like such a passiv start with Kassadin.
I prefer building:
Boots + 3 heal --> 2 Dorans Ring --> lvl 2 boots + Lichbane

I know Dorans Ring build in nothing, but in my opinion it's great for him, because it gives you everthink you want. If the game last long enough, that you have to sell them, this ammount of gold won't make such a difference. But it's only my opinion :)

I also prefer to get one early point in Nether Blade at Level 2 - and max. it out last- , because it can give you some Mana, when you last hit Minions, and also allows you to last hit EVERY Minion even under the tower - also the big ones.

Perhaps you will ask: Why under the tower?
Infact it's an simple answer: Many Champions can push Kassadin - pre Lvl 6 - out of the lane or put him under a big pressure and often it's much easier and safer to farm under you own tower, before you reach Level 6. Additionaly this is quiete easy to do with one point in Nether Blade and it's also don't burn mana, because you will get atleast the 25 Mana back.

Before you flame me: Don't play him if you get bullied in lane before Level 6 - you should try to lane against a good Swain, Cassa or co. - I'm sure you will recognise it's quiete hard before Level 6 if you don't want to lose to many minion kills - Furthermore you often get focused by the opposite jungler, because good ones will also know, Kassadin will have a hard time if he have to recall early or dies even early.
I hope this comment is usefull for you :)

sleepy-person
1
[-]
XotikBeast (6) | June 7, 2012 5:05am
love the name :D
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | April 8, 2012 12:01pm
thats just silly
1
[-]
Mo0se73 | April 8, 2012 11:26am
Hmm i didnt really like it. Kiss my Kass? I don't think it is appropriate
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | March 17, 2012 1:34pm
thank you! I appreicate it. I will check back on your guide in the near future :)
1
[-]
SpinTo (3) | March 16, 2012 10:11am
Despite what I feel is an unfair down vote from you on my guide, I upvoted you. You have an effective build here.
1
[-]
CasterMaster (316) | March 13, 2012 9:18pm
upvote away!
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | November 6, 2011 9:00am
Quoted:

So many details, it is realy a good guide anyhow. But I realized why the rating is only 77%. This build is personal. It is not easy to control excpet you have 400+ rounds. :(


This is true its not the easiest build to play with since its a bit pricey
1
[-]
Ryen#145025 | November 3, 2011 11:33pm
So many details, it is realy a good guide anyhow. But I realized why the rating is only 77%. This build is personal. It is not easy to control excpet you have 400+ rounds. :(
1
[-]
mattswer | November 3, 2011 2:29pm
This is my favorite Kass guide, I like almost everything about it. I like how you prefer having the summoner spell masteries over the ****py ones like crit chance and perserverence. i think you made a good point, im just going to keep all my pages that way.

but, shouldnt you replace glacial shroud with RoA? the 15% CDR can be gained getting blue buff, which Kassadin should always have anyway. RoA gives a lot of health a decent amount of MP and AP for hitting harder. But i can see why having the permenent 15% CDR is nice.

btw, maybe i missed it, but shouldnt you upgrade glacial shroud into frozen heart?
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | October 28, 2011 9:34am
chostar wrote:

my hat's off to u. i wanted to make a kassadin build that had the right balance of CDR, AP, Health, Mana, and Armor against those pesky AD carries, and this is it. i archived my kassadin guide after seeing this. +1 and favorited.


Thank you :)
1
[-]
chostar (6) | October 26, 2011 5:22pm
my hat's off to u. i wanted to make a kassadin build that had the right balance of CDR, AP, Health, Mana, and Armor against those pesky AD carries, and this is it. i archived my kassadin guide after seeing this. +1 and favorited.
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | October 12, 2011 11:43am

Very nice guide, will definitely try out the build. 2 questions though. Why not Lich Bane, and why not Frozen Heart?


well i don't get frozen heart cause your better off just spending that money to go towards a zonyas....you can finish it after zonyas if you want though. And as for the Ap its actually more than 300 its closer to 550 Ap when its finished if you read the guide it describes that somewhere...mobafires calculations are incorrect.
1
[-]
silentdirge (3) | October 9, 2011 9:12pm
And why is the AP only at 327?
1
[-]
silentdirge (3) | October 9, 2011 9:06pm
Very nice guide, will definitely try out the build. 2 questions though. Why not Lich Bane, and why not Frozen Heart?
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | October 9, 2011 11:36am
mattswer wrote:

I've only been playing LoL for a week and I'm kicking *** with this build


nice, you should also try defensive masteries kassadin, the second build in this guide.
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | October 9, 2011 11:35am

I am so bad with Kassadin, but I want to improve. I appreciate your vote on my guide. I really enjoyed yours. You really did such a great job, and had so much detail. +1 :)

Thanks and no problem :)
1
[-]
mattswer | October 8, 2011 8:41pm
I've only been playing LoL for a week and I'm kicking *** with this build
1
[-]
princessmisery (12) | October 6, 2011 11:00pm
I am so bad with Kassadin, but I want to improve. I appreciate your vote on my guide. I really enjoyed yours. You really did such a great job, and had so much detail. +1 :)
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | September 27, 2011 6:21pm
chostar wrote:

dude, sweet guide man, +1. i agree w/ pretty much everything in here lol


Glad to hear it, thanks
1
[-]
chostar (6) | September 27, 2011 12:11pm
dude, sweet guide man, +1. i agree w/ pretty much everything in here lol
1
[-]
Yomalolo (5) | September 21, 2011 10:54am
Good description, nice color, much details and a special hint on Map Awareness. I tried the item build and it works well!
That's my favorite kind of a guide :D
+1
1
[-]
MrDweezil | August 19, 2011 9:57am
Definitely going to try this. I've only played a few games with Kass, but it's been frustrating that his cooldowns always seem just a little too long to get that second burst to finish champs off.
1
[-]
Baxi | August 6, 2011 9:44pm
yo dude you gotta keep up, ur 33k behind ...:D
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | July 26, 2011 11:05am
Sinjustice wrote:

Pretty solid guide. Informative, a bit long, but still a good read. Very much similar to the way I play Kassadin. :D

+1 from me good sir.


thanks, much appreciated
1
[-]
Sinjustice (84) | July 25, 2011 9:41pm
Pretty solid guide. Informative, a bit long, but still a good read. Very much similar to the way I play Kassadin. :D

+1 from me good sir.
1
[-]
Hargis2010 (13) | July 23, 2011 6:49pm
+1 Good job and thanks for the vote. Your Kass guide is a decent read with a lot of detail. But I would recommend finishing your Frozen Heart at one point. This would give you more armor, cap out your cdr, and give you an amazing aura.

-Hargis2010
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | July 17, 2011 1:21pm
@ downsite: AAS is the cheapest large jump in AP besides deathcap but deathcap gives no mana or mana regen which is so important.

@ olympianzeus: thanks dude! I use cleanse because you won't have banshee's veil untill about 40 mins into the game.
1
[-]
OlympianZeus97 | July 16, 2011 4:22pm
1 think why cleanse when you have banshee`s veil?
1
[-]
OlympianZeus97 | July 16, 2011 4:20pm
pro build pro guide men you are awesome +1
1
[-]
Downsite (11) | July 2, 2011 1:11pm
Is rusing AAS after ToG a good idea I think not.
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | June 16, 2011 12:44pm

good build i try this


Just be patient till your archangels and you'll do good
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | June 16, 2011 12:43pm

Good guide. Never thought about trying Kassadin with some CDR but it works well.

Edit - I just voted it up after trying it but I didn't require me to post a comment. Not sure if that's a new thing.

Thanks, not everyone agrees with CDR. Glad to see it worked for you.

Theres something wrong with my guide no ones supposed to be able to vote without commenting but they are
1
[-]
dronn777110 | June 16, 2011 11:40am
good build i try this
1
[-]
Asfastasican (5) | June 10, 2011 9:18pm
Good guide. Never thought about trying Kassadin with some CDR but it works well.

Edit - I just voted it up after trying it but I didn't require me to post a comment. Not sure if that's a new thing.
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | May 26, 2011 7:16pm
how did 1 person vote without commenting....Im guessing the person voted then deleted the comment. sissy.
1
[-]
Clockwork Demon (2) | May 19, 2011 6:57pm
+1, yeah!
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | May 7, 2011 9:16am
Trojan995 wrote:

OMG finally a build without meijais or a lich bane

Well done, champ

+1


*Bows*
I'm so anti mejais its not even funny
1
[-]
Trojan995 (109) | May 6, 2011 4:42am
OMG finally a build without meijais or a lich bane

Well done, champ

+1
1
[-]
boggery | April 30, 2011 10:17am
nice
1
[-]
ReXxdrengen (1) | April 29, 2011 8:54am
I like your guide :D Sounds good (;
1
[-]
Baxi | April 22, 2011 10:47am
N1
1
[-]
awwsmm (28) | March 31, 2011 6:00pm
Alot of detail and effort put into this, Also a great build +1
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | March 28, 2011 3:59pm
mobrebel wrote:

Don't forget MR though!!!


I have a void staff included in the build for certain times. You really don't need that much MR when your spamming your abilities so quick. I can't count how many times people tell me "I dunno how your doing so much damage with those items". Also, the items listed at the top are generally used more often since most people don't stack magic resistance.
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | March 28, 2011 3:56pm
Searz wrote:

Oh really?
Forgetting that DFG has an AP ratio are we? ;P
+3.5% of max HP per 100AP. Which means 44% of current HP and 880damage against enemies with 2000hp.


Oh yea but that's still only good against one champion every minuet. With Morello's you have bigger stat bonuses you can use on every champ you fight and with every move you make all the time.

Although, you did convince me to include it in a version of my build. check it out if you want.
1
[-]
Searz (441) | March 27, 2011 11:38pm
Yea, but MR is irrelevant in this case.
1
[-]
mobrebel (27) | March 27, 2011 10:22pm
Don't forget MR though!!!
1
[-]
Searz (441) | March 27, 2011 10:17pm
Oh really?
Forgetting that DFG has an AP ratio are we? ;P
+3.5% of max HP per 100AP. Which means 44% of current HP and 880damage against enemies with 2000hp.
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | March 27, 2011 5:14pm
Searz wrote:


DFG deals way more damage than any of your other spells at full HP. It deals less damage than your other spells at lower HP. It's generally an extra spell on your enemies. Which is great for nuking them down.

Morello's Evil Tome is meant for supporters or champions that have abilities that does other things than deal damage(like shields, heals and so on).



Against a champion with full 2000 HP DFG does 600 damage. (2000 * .3 = 600)

Null Sphere does 560 damage with 400 ability power. (280[flat] + 280[per ap] = 560)

Not a huge difference. DFG is better against tanks but your not focusing tanks. Sacrificing all the extra stats that morellos gives for 1 nuke that you can only use once a minuet is not worth it.
1
[-]
Searz (441) | March 27, 2011 2:42pm

Morello's gives more survivability just with CDR so u can spam Riftwalk.

Deathfire gives less cooldown reduction, less ap, and less mana regen...All so you can get one nuke that does OK damage to a champ at 75%-100% HP every 1 minuet. Basically with Deathfire you have to initiate to get the full damage from the nuke which is useless in team fights when your playing Kassadin.

DFG deals way more damage than any of your other spells at full HP. It deals less damage than your other spells at lower HP. It's generally an extra spell on your enemies. Which is great for nuking them down.

Morello's Evil Tome is meant for supporters or champions that have abilities that does other things than deal damage(like shields, heals and so on).
1
[-]
Jyaki | March 27, 2011 12:13pm
pizza
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | March 25, 2011 3:55am
Searz wrote:

DFG>Morello's on Kassadin.


Morello's gives more survivability just with CDR so u can spam Riftwalk.

Deathfire gives less cooldown reduction, less ap, and less mana regen...All so you can get one nuke that does OK damage to a champ at 75%-100% HP every 1 minuet. Basically with Deathfire you have to initiate to get the full damage from the nuke which is useless in team fights when your playing Kassadin.
1
[-]
Searz (441) | March 25, 2011 3:11am
DFG>Morello's on Kassadin.
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | March 20, 2011 8:13am
spsoui wrote:

I really like this guide but why glyph of force and focus?


Thanks a lot. :)

What do you mean focus? I'm not using them.
1
[-]
spsoui | March 19, 2011 1:19pm
I really like this guide but why glyph of force and focus?
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | March 4, 2011 7:09pm
BB Kitari wrote:

I tried this build 5 times now, and i like it though i have problems with not getting pushed back in the early game, also getting last hit's ain't that easy for me.
Maybe i have to add that i'm only lvl 21 but that shouldn't be the biggest problem (mainly a morgana player).

Maybe you have more suggestions for me, what i can try.
Our team setup was with a jungling tank so that makes things not easier.

yes u need to lane with a partner. Its very tough with any build to 2v1 with kassadin, if thats what you mean by you had a tank jungler on your team. even in 2v2 a lot of the time you'll need to stay near your tower untill lvl 6. I would try just last hiting with your null sphere / force pulse untill lvl 6-8 when you get your catalyst. Thats when u can take some harassment from the enemy and farm easier.

But if you were mid (as you should be) than you just need to wailt till level 6 before harassing and taking hit for hit. Farm up till 6 and get nether blade at 2 so you can farm under tower.
1
[-]
BB Kitari | March 3, 2011 11:53pm
I tried this build 5 times now, and i like it though i have problems with not getting pushed back in the early game, also getting last hit's ain't that easy for me.
Maybe i have to add that i'm only lvl 21 but that shouldn't be the biggest problem (mainly a morgana player).

Maybe you have more suggestions for me, what i can try.
Our team setup was with a jungling tank so that makes things not easier.
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | March 2, 2011 4:17pm
Changin that now, thanks.
1
[-]
BB Kitari | March 2, 2011 6:47am
Very nice guide +1

i would just like to remark that in your item list you don't talk about Banshee's Veil
though you can find it at top of your build, it maybe would be a good thing, when you are reading, not to have to scroll up and place it in between in your thoughts :)

anyway i certenly going to give this guide a try :)
thx for it
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | February 27, 2011 4:35pm
grelic wrote:




I changed the last item to void staff. You weren't the only person that suggested to do so. Plus having to remember Zhonya's active can be annoying if u forget.

I actually havent gotten a chance to get void as a last item so i can't really say how much better it is. We'll see how it goes
1
[-]
grelic (1) | February 27, 2011 3:36pm


Thanks.

its hard to say, while you lose survivability you gain end game dmg output...it all really depends on what the situation calls for. id leave your core item as hourglass, but some games you should use void staff
what do you think about switching an hourglass with void staff?
1
[-]
Ziniar (2) | February 26, 2011 12:47pm
nice, well written guide.
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | February 26, 2011 10:02am
Noctic wrote:

Wow.. alot of detail so points for that. I've always wanted to try kas, because he just looks like an annoying *** champion lol : )

I like the build, except i would go for more magic pen. That's just me though.
Mana is important.

^^^ i like the one above. Switching the hourglass for void. little less ap but more pen.

Thanks man. you should try him, hes so fun.
Next late game im going to test it out. I'll switch out hourglass for now.
1
[-]
Noctic (1) | February 26, 2011 9:53am
Wow.. alot of detail so points for that. I've always wanted to try kas, because he just looks like an annoying *** champion lol : )

I like the build, except i would go for more magic pen. That's just me though.
Mana is important.

^^^ i like the one above. Switching the hourglass for void. little less ap but more pen.
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | February 26, 2011 9:45am
grelic wrote:

a very in-depth guide and a good one at that. while the lvl of W at lvl 5 does allow for ToG and E to get charges, it isn't as important as extra dmg from another rank of Q or E in my opinion. i also find your though on CD boots interesting. i will have to give it a shot in my build. my only problem with not using sorc boots is that you need a void staff. the 15% from masteries and 9 from runes just isn't enough end game...especially when almost everyone has a BV.

over all though good guide.

Thanks.
what do you think about switching an hourglass with void staff?
1
[-]
grelic (1) | February 26, 2011 9:07am
a very in-depth guide and a good one at that. while the lvl of W at lvl 5 does allow for ToG and E to get charges, it isn't as important as extra dmg from another rank of Q or E in my opinion. i also find your though on CD boots interesting. i will have to give it a shot in my build. my only problem with not using sorc boots is that you need a void staff. the 15% from masteries and 9 from runes just isn't enough end game...especially when almost everyone has a BV.

over all though good guide.
1
[-]
FreeDiscount (1) | February 26, 2011 8:25am
Well done on the details. Good Build.
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | February 25, 2011 2:13pm
potassium wrote:

So this is why you win as kassadin...


Haha, my secrets out.
1
[-]
potassium (1) | February 25, 2011 11:37am
So this is why you win as kassadin...
1
[-]
RuminatingWin (11) | February 25, 2011 4:08am
Koci wrote:

Hey there. Good build i just dont like so much mana without any ap. And cd boots you dont need that i prefer ap pene. But i like description +1.

Thank you for your input Koci.

What do you think is enough AP? The description is wrong, you end up with 653 AP. You'll also only end up with 2,815 mana. I added a new Chapter in regards to this. Its called "Confirmed Stats".
1
[-]
Koci (2) | February 25, 2011 1:10am
Hey there. Good build i just dont like so much mana without any ap. And cd boots you dont need that i prefer ap pene. But i like description +1.
1
[-]
Playeer2 (5) | February 24, 2011 10:44pm
you have gone through the runes in detail, the items in detail, which summoner spell to get and which not to get and the leveling process in detail, nicely done

i can see you have put alot of effort +1 :)