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Offtanks, The New Metagame.

DuffTime Last updated on August 17, 2012
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nanno's Forum Avatar by nanno » May 9, 2011 11:55am | Report

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I would still enjoy having him in my jungle just because of his ult in team-fights. Malphite might be an even better choice than amumu, because Pop up is the hardest CC in the game, other than arguably suppress, (Although you can't QSS a pop up, you're just there.) Malph also has an easier time farming imho, and might have slightly faster items, I'm no expert on Malphite and Amumu's jungle times, that's just a guess. Amumu could be fast with his tantrums being sped up by the creeps and his crying skill as well.



amumu has one of the fastest jungles i believe. You can finish red buff at 4minutes flat. And his dmg is more in a DoT style, thats why it doesnt seem to be so much (it can be quite hard).
Also, his AoE is a bit bigger and easier to hit with, since it happens in an instant :)

Idk much about malph ganks in the jungle, bc he does not get played all that often in europe, but i think amumu beats him with his pull stun there as well =o

(I think malph fits better in the solo lane, because he can farm his tank items very well and hit very hard with it due to his scaling of armor and HP ^^)

DuffTime's Forum Avatar by DuffTime » May 9, 2011 12:16pm | Report

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then why do i hear udyr getting called an anti-carry when he is, by your definition a perfect offtank? I think you can use more than one measure to avoid damage. And ive seen it many times that an anti carry starts the fight, by hitting hard on anything it sees, and having both teams rushing into the fight, one looking for the kill on the half life leftover, or trying hard to protect that.
I think its not that they are completely different categories. Atleast not most of the time. I think its more that most chars that get built into offtanks, will be used as anti-carries because they have the capabilities to do so, and who doesnt want an anti carry ;)


Granted, I will have to try Poppy as an off-tank before I say it won't work effectively. I'm not a close minded player so I'll look into it. Hell she might even show up on my next guide thanks to you xD

Oh, and I don't think Udyr is a perfect off-tank, but he can do it. I don't think he's a perfect Anti Carry either. Udyr is sort of messy and hard to categorize.

As far as Anti carries and Off-tanks, I think the only difference really is play-style. Are you trying to tank or are you trying to kill the carry?

I think Off-tanking is more versatile, but, again, similar but not exactly the same.


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DuffTime's Forum Avatar by DuffTime » May 9, 2011 12:20pm | Report

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amumu has one of the fastest jungles i believe. You can finish red buff at 4minutes flat. And his dmg is more in a DoT style, thats why it doesnt seem to be so much (it can be quite hard).
Also, his AoE is a bit bigger and easier to hit with, since it happens in an instant :)

Idk much about malph ganks in the jungle, bc he does not get played all that often in europe, but i think amumu beats him with his pull stun there as well =o

(I think malph fits better in the solo lane, because he can farm his tank items very well and hit very hard with it due to his scaling of armor and HP ^^)


Oh interesting. Well Malphite is also a fast and a safe jungler because of his slam, which lowers creeps ATS, and does AoE dmg, and his AoE dmg auto attack which can be activated to buff dmg and armor.

His ultimate is superior in most circumstances (IMHO), cannot be cleansed out of, and his slow is target-able while Amumu's stun is not. Personally, my preference is Malphite but they are both great tanks and they both perform a similar function. I just find that Malphite protects carries better with his skills.


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Matija Dogan's Forum Avatar by Matija Dogan » May 9, 2011 12:33pm | Report

I'm from EU Server and things have been going by your strategy for at least a half a year. The off-tank goes top, AP-carry mid and baby-sitted AD-carry bot. Never realized that on American Servers you were playing a whole different game. Your method is tested and proved effective, but since its been used on EU Servers for long I need a counter for IT. Anyhow great explanations and argumentation. +1 for my American friends so they can adopt this method of play too.

DuffTime's Forum Avatar by DuffTime » May 9, 2011 12:36pm | Report

Matija Dogan wrote:

I'm from EU Server and things have been going by your strategy for at least a half a year. The off-tank goes top, AP-carry mid and baby-sitted AD-carry bot. Never realized that on American Servers you were playing a whole different game. Your method is tested and proved effective, but since its been used on EU Servers for long I need a counter for IT. Anyhow great explanations and argumentation. +1 for my American friends so they can adopt this method of play too.


Thanks hahah. Well, try to put strong counters to a melee champ in your top lane. Maybe a champ like Kat with lots of HP regen would to well =)


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mobrebel's Forum Avatar by mobrebel » May 9, 2011 12:39pm | Report

This pretty much, for me anyways, wasn't truly NEW concepts. BUT, it is a great guide to show others how powerful this is. +1 from me!



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DuffTime's Forum Avatar by DuffTime » May 9, 2011 12:52pm | Report

mobrebel wrote:

This pretty much, for me anyways, wasn't truly NEW concepts. BUT, it is a great guide to show others how powerful this is. +1 from me!


Indeed. What I've noticed is lots of people seem to think this meta-game changed with the nerfs to armor items and the buff to AD items. It was sort of a little joke implying that that's not the case ;P

But not entirely, because there is a new concept here of mine called Trinity tanking, which is in my mind the best possible way to Off-tank.


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TBasil13's Forum Avatar by TBasil13 » May 9, 2011 12:58pm | Report

Appears to be impressive... Although further details pertaining to each champion would be appreciated as to how trinity force benefits them (Regardless of how obvious it may or may not be for some people). I will say that Garen is the only one of the list whom of which I have the closest possible runes for and he is the only one I have actually tried. Nonetheless, I am impressed with what I see at the moment. Further testing is necessary before I cast my vote.


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Whit3fac3's Forum Avatar by Whit3fac3 » May 9, 2011 1:02pm | Report

a really nice guide and the build are nice too.I personally prefere Jarvan but ithink in your jarvan build it lacks at Life Steal and i'd like to have a Stark Fevor or a Bloodthirster in the build instead of Atma's but all in all nice Job i like the idea of changeing the meta-game:D

Forgottenduty's Forum Avatar by Forgottenduty » May 9, 2011 1:06pm | Report

Although i like the overall concept as well as the overall idea i dont want to turn League of legents like DoTA.Cuz the same thing happened there and in the end hp>damage and is wasn't as fun as it used to be.I hope this wont end up the same


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