General Guide by DuffTime

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Offtanks, The New Metagame.

Last updated on August 17, 2012

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Quote \| PM \| +Rep by Mallahet » March 5, 2012 11:58am \| Report Who would you chose to counter Olaf top lane? Got my *** beat trying Cho top lane the other day. Granted, it's probably a skill-level mismatch more than anything. I was also sad because I wanted to pick Brolaf..	Mallahet Posts: 14 Joined: 2012-01-10

Quote \| PM \| +Rep by Leviathan760 » March 5, 2012 1:33pm \| Report Very nice guide dufftime +1. I have never tried building a blitzcrank with trinity force but i will now. :D Who wants to join me in a VOLIBEAR HUG? :D	Leviathan760 Posts: 1 Joined: 2012-03-05 IGN: Leviathan760 on NA

Quote \| PM \| +Rep by Presunto » March 6, 2012 9:41am \| Report DuffTime wrote: Hi, look at the date posted wise guy. So? Do you know what updating the guide means? You also say that the guide is fresh but it's extremely outdated. I mean, the current meta has been in use for almost an year.	Presunto Posts: 2 Joined: 2012-03-01

Quote \| PM \| +Rep by DuffTime » March 6, 2012 11:29am \| Report Mallahet wrote: Who would you chose to counter Olaf top lane? Got my * beat trying Cho top lane the other day. Granted, it's probably a skill-level mismatch more than anything. I was also sad because I wanted to pick Brolaf.. Junglers counter him. Tell your jungle that Olaf is an aggressive top with no escapes and just gank him a lot. Leviathan760 wrote: Very nice guide dufftime +1. I have never tried building a blitzcrank with trinity force but i will now. :D 's too good son. I recommend it more for 3v3 o: Presunto wrote: So? Do you know what updating the guide means? You also say that the guide is fresh but it's extremely outdated. I mean, the current meta has been in use for almost an year. Well that's a rather odd question to ask. It's almost as if you're insinuating that I don't speak English, as I consider "Updating the guide" to be very easy to comprehend. It would almost seem as if you're trying to insult me, and what would be rather pointless since I don't give a ** about your opinion or your thoughts. Where did I say it was fresh? I updated the builds but the written aspect is very old. Do you know how pointless updating a guide about a new meta game is, when the content described isn't even NEW ANYMORE LOL! Run along child, run along you're boring me. Learn the true S3 op, Tryndamere! http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/duffs-season-3-hamdamere-296968 Like my official DuffTime Facebook page! http://www.facebook.com/DuffTime Follow me on Twitter, @RealDuffTime Come hang out when I'm streaming! http://www.twitch.tv/dufftime	DuffTime Renowned (655) Posts: 12060 Joined: 2010-10-31 IGN: DuffTime on NA View My Blog

Quote \| PM \| +Rep by Avendil » March 10, 2012 6:32am \| Report Hey duff. I know I have already posted on yout guide and upvoted it but I have some questions about your build on Irelia, which is my favorite off-tank: 1)Why don't you use tryforce on her anymore? If I am not mistaken you previously used it and I thinks that it still is kinda very efficient. 2)Do you think that we should, now that dodge doesn t exist anymore, use yellow flat armor? 3) seeing of the amount of HP that you get with this build at the 18th level, wouldn't an atma be more cost/efficient than a madred blood razor as a last item? 4)Still about the madred... As an offtank, one of your most important targets are the carry, but they don't have a lot of HP, which madred is all about, so I have a hard time understanding why this item is chosen. Even if I ask questions, I'll say it again, I am very happy using this guide and it is realy efficient, but I'd like to understand more easily WHY it is so efficient ^^. PS: sorry for my bad english. With a lot of respect. Avendil. "Greed is good" Allright bro.... but not to much :p	Avendil Posts: 6 Joined: 2011-08-20

Quote \| PM \| +Rep by Babriel » March 12, 2012 5:58pm \| Report Yo, Duff. I've been testing out something which has to do with this offtankyness(epic word) thing. Im building sion AP since that lets his abilities do something and building similar to how you show your maokai built, but it isnt working out. It seems to be more geared towards dps, but im not getting a really good ap level going without losing my tankyness. Any advice?	Babriel Posts: 21 Joined: 2012-02-23 IGN: Azerothscore on NA

Quote \| PM \| +Rep by Nighthawk » March 12, 2012 6:02pm \| Report if you want to build Sion like an AP offtank, just build RoA, GA, Deathcap, DFG, Scepter, Hourglass, boots, etc. AP sion can't not be built with AP because without it he's pretty useless lategame and you have to build some AP early in order to da damagez. Toshabi wrote: I'm not a MLP fan. How could an MLP style electronic cooling unit that cools its environment by way of rotating its blades to push a fluid like gas, commonly air, have the ability to post intellectual thoughts and concepts on an online environment by way of typing on a computer/laptop? Last I checked, the fans around my houses are unable to do this. Dominion 101 Coming Soon! \| Would appreciate some rep if I helped you.	Nighthawk <Veteran> Distinguished (577) Posts: 8569 Joined: 2010-12-07 IGN: Eo Ut Mortus on NA on NA View My Blog

Quote \| PM \| +Rep by DuffTime » March 13, 2012 10:29am \| Report Avendil wrote: Hey duff. I know I have already posted on yout guide and upvoted it but I have some questions about your build on Irelia, which is my favorite off-tank: 1)Why don't you use tryforce on her anymore? If I am not mistaken you previously used it and I thinks that it still is kinda very efficient. 2)Do you think that we should, now that dodge doesn t exist anymore, use yellow flat armor? 3) seeing of the amount of HP that you get with this build at the 18th level, wouldn't an atma be more cost/efficient than a madred blood razor as a last item? 4)Still about the madred... As an offtank, one of your most important targets are the carry, but they don't have a lot of HP, which madred is all about, so I have a hard time understanding why this item is chosen. Even if I ask questions, I'll say it again, I am very happy using this guide and it is realy efficient, but I'd like to understand more easily WHY it is so efficient ^^. PS: sorry for my bad english. With a lot of respect. Avendil. Hi Avendil. :P 1) I don't play Irelia much anymore. Triforce is still a good item on her, you are correct. 2) Go for it. :p HP lvl is good too. 3) Madred > Atma's, but the problem is it's more expensive. It works with W, it kills tanks, it's better. Up to you though. Enjoy. Babriel wrote: Yo, Duff. I've been testing out something which has to do with this offtankyness(epic word) thing. Im building sion AP since that lets his abilities do something and building similar to how you show your maokai built, but it isnt working out. It seems to be more geared towards dps, but im not getting a really good ap level going without losing my tankyness. Any advice? That's because AP offtank Sion sucks SO hard. Don't ever build AP offtank Sion :P Something like what Nighthawk said, except no GA and no RoA. AP Sion wants like... DFG / Raba / Lich Bane / Void Staff / Zhonya's Learn the true S3 op, Tryndamere! http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/duffs-season-3-hamdamere-296968 Like my official DuffTime Facebook page! http://www.facebook.com/DuffTime Follow me on Twitter, @RealDuffTime Come hang out when I'm streaming! http://www.twitch.tv/dufftime	DuffTime Renowned (655) Posts: 12060 Joined: 2010-10-31 IGN: DuffTime on NA View My Blog

Quote \| PM \| +Rep by Nighthawk » March 13, 2012 4:02pm \| Report I personally think Lichbane is a huge waste of money :P Oh and Scepter is way better then Lich :P Dominion 101 Coming Soon! \| Would appreciate some rep if I helped you.	Nighthawk <Veteran> Distinguished (577) Posts: 8569 Joined: 2010-12-07 IGN: Eo Ut Mortus on NA on NA View My Blog

Quote \| PM \| +Rep by DuffTime » March 14, 2012 9:54am \| Report Not in any way shape or form. 100% incorrect. Learn the true S3 op, Tryndamere! http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/duffs-season-3-hamdamere-296968 Like my official DuffTime Facebook page! http://www.facebook.com/DuffTime Follow me on Twitter, @RealDuffTime Come hang out when I'm streaming! http://www.twitch.tv/dufftime	DuffTime Renowned (655) Posts: 12060 Joined: 2010-10-31 IGN: DuffTime on NA View My Blog