S2 guide. Meh.

Well, I was not sure, probably a misunderstanding on my side.

I understood that before you ever posted... the point is i'm nto going to suggest something that I cannot test... I am broke when it comes to ip, thus this is what I provided... I even stated the runes are optional... and I explained the situation on the ruens in the runes part... please do not post on how expunge works again for the issue you have is with the runes and you mistake the runes to be for expunge... the runes are there because I play mainly mages... and those runes just carried over... for I have now only 13 champs 6 of them 6300 champs at the time I got them and 2 of them free. I prefer playing more champs over meeting my rune needs for I am just starting to play ranked and climbing out of elo hell... at 1407 so far... unremarkable...

I do appreciate you throwing that equation up though for those who do not understand twitch will gain insight from that.

Thanks for taking the time to try to clarify yourself... but I cannot stress enough that I understand how twitchs' abilities work.

Expunge stacks with basic attacks, I do know that. However, if you consider x is the number of hit you made before Expunge & n your ability power:

D(x, n) =
150+n+x(60) (when x <= 6)
150+n+6(60) (when x > 6)

Therefore not worth adding few ability power... Hope you understand this time

To be honest, Please read where I actually did say armor pen runes are practicale, but since I do not have enough ip to do that I will not put it up as so, although I do say it's a viable alternative, since i have that addressed not only under runes but under the reponse to teh other person that said it, I don't see why you mention that.

As for the item order... idc which order you get it in, get a vamperic sceptar, then get the base build of black clever, bloodthirster, and boots of mobility... I buy whatever I can afford... The lifesteal makes up for the survivability you as for... just know when you should engage, a good twitch should not get in the position in which it is death, and by the time they have a ton of vision waards or oracles... you shouldn't need to worry about them for you're op enough to engage head on after someone else on your team engages... heck your op enough to walk up and kill someone if they're solo... you play as if you don't stealth. Also ghost amkes up for that movement loss early game. Thus why boots are where they are... if you use ghost wisely no boots needed, but they are handly...
I find damage to be better.

Anyways I don't bother looking at other peopls guides because i like to come up with my own build... for if I were to follow peoples guides I wouldn't get to having a good different 1. My friend came up with this build, and if it is nothing new, then how does it not bring much new to the table...

Well only so mnay ways to build a champ, sorry you disliked it, I've had people comment saying you don't need to show us everything in the build, jus thte final items and you say the exect oppisite. Some people you just can not please.

Your item build order is a little sub par, building boots of mobility that late into the build is pretty pointless, your rune set up are not optimal at all (You'd probably be better with the ArPen rather then the life steal), your masteries are going to make it even harder for you to lane without giving the rat any survivability. Your summoner spells are decent, Flash would probably be a better choice then ghost tbh.


Your guide is rather general and doesn't really bring much new to the table. Overall, nothing new.

I plan on updating it although:

Well I just wanted to get the build out there, and while I was doing this I was ridiculously tired and bumped publish instead of save so then I had to half *** it... plus if you know my other guides really all that matters is the build. As for runes yeah I don’t have the ip thus I don't use different runes. As for stealth I say don't expect to get anywhere steathed, you can't really trust it, unless you have idiot opponents. Also since I’m new at guides I didn't find a delete option to the guide, although I'm sure there is 1.

As for the attack speed runes being changed to armor pen, I would have to agree with you there, and this is 1 if feel comfortable agreeing with for my friend actually has that and does it, Just he hasn't play twitch in a while (aka idk his runes or masteries that he takes, it's his build with everything else mine besides his idea that I strongly agree with, his stealth (q) is just for attack speed.

As for expunge not scaling with the number of hits you do... that is false, read the ability, for each stack of deadly venom you have on your opponent it does 20-60 damage, so with 6 stacks that is 120 to 360 damage. Now yet again I don't have much ip and that is why the runes are the way they are.... I’m running 2 rune pages with the same glyphs and seals due to that, and considering my situation it doens't hurt. As for twitch getting focused down... well that's why you have your team engage and stand back and attack them or get next to a tank and attack them if they are more targetable in terms of cc rather than aoe. Anyways if your team runs in and makes them use there cc and does their job right at distracting the opponent, then you won’t get focused down... here is where I would suggest bringing and ap kog and ap xerath along for the ride, because when their dodging all that artillery, they tend to not be paying attention and they also tend to try to b out... and about half the time they get away with no health...
Also if they stun you there going to focus you down anyways so what difference does it make if you have survivability (for they’d all jump you)… if they have even halfway competent you will be dead before the stun wears off, so as a response I’d have to say if you really are worried about that get cleanse, especially since you believe there is no escape (I personally don’t use it and boots of mobility combined with twitches build in slow combined with ghost… you can most likely get way if you have too.

Also, just saw you latest remark: If it is not complete yet, do not publish it. I suggest you to delete and redo. Then I'll vote and rewrite a remark.

Indeed runes aren't optimal.
But I think I get where it aims. Since you use Expunge it consume mana as well as being invisible. However, you should not play Twitch with the invisibility in mind. Roamers like Evelyn is a proof. So what to do ?

Forget those "mana problems" and start playing yourself as AD carry, not AP. Therefore I'd see few armor as starter if you find yourself to be squishy. Starting with Vampiric Scepter is a big risk, and therefore is situational on who you are facing. In my humble opinion, since Twitch is one of my main, I'd say that you should start with Doran's Blade in most of the case.

Ability power for..? Expunge? Although it's a 100% (or 1.0) ratio with AP, do not joke me around that this ridiculous AP bonus will change anything - nothing, since it does not scale with the number of hit you do (it's a fixed damage).

Concentrate yourself with full armor penetration. Why wouldn't I choose attack speed runes? Because Twitch's Q gives bonus attack speed, so why wasting attack speed there when you have 2 Phantom's DAncer + Black Cleaver. It's a pure waste of better runes.

You have absolutely 0 sustain. As for this :

Is one of the most ridiculous remark I've seen. LEt me explain; Experienced users won't use this build because if you get focused 1 time in a gank you'll end up dead within 2 seconds. You may have 2.5 attack speed, but once stunned: you die.

Again, people in higher levels will immediately focus carries and won't focus tanks. It may work now, but not later once you do climb the ranks.

Another thing, or rather advice. When you get invisible, do it while travelling jungle, for the simplest reason that the jungling is full of normal wards. But never expect to escape people with it because you won't.

Best regards,
trIAlexCS

your runes need to be redone, i feel that the random cooldown reduction is not useful along with the mana regen.

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