Nidalee Build Guide by Alyrianna

Finally up and posted! Let me know your thoughts and comments and please don't forget to rate!

why heal? >.<

Your Heal priority List is just dumb I think, I tbh rather keep my ad carry up then my tank, overall pretty nice

Gonna upvote this to counter the troll vote.

But honestly - Heal? The build is very stupid, sorry.

But the guide itself is really good and I can see that you used a lot of time on it, so I would suggest on changing the build.

Please please please, change your build D:<

This looks very bad =(
Heal isn't any good for Nidalee since she has her own (and a pretty strong one)

Also, some main points on which I completely disagree with you.

• Javelin Toss / Takedown shouldn't be maxed second. It's too unreliable to invest into. You can put 2 or 3 points into it, if you have luck landing those, but your Primal Surge is a priority in most cases.
• Solo top isn't gonna work with this build. If you want to play top Nid, consider Wriggles and Atmogs combo. Squishy AP Nid gets countered on solo top way too easily.
  
• To be honest, I think mid isn't any good for such Nidalee as well. Spear is impossible to land there and you will likely lose the lane to most champs for different reasons ( LeBlanc and Kassadin are going to kill you all day, Morgana, Brand and Ahri will out-farm and zone you). Doubt that Nida is a good choice for mid at all.
  
  So, judging from that, only more or less adequate decision would be to go bot... Here's the problem:
  
• You describe bot lane playstyle as if you are playing the AD carry, prioritizing harass and farming over supportive role of Nidalee.
  Can't agree. Where will your real carry go then?
• Don't agree with RoA. You will get a **** load of mana from Tear of the Goddess, so you should change it for Rylai's Crystal Scepter. RCS has the amazing passive, that will help you a lot if you know how to land the spears properly :)

So, overall I don't agree with the build. AP Nid with q first was fun for me at ~20 summoner level, but as I got a little higher in gameplay level, I realized that it just doesn't work vs. skilled opponent.
Not voting for now, want to see if you will respond either by changes or reasoning to why my thoughts are inaccurate :) Please PM me when you'll get something changed or will respond to my questions.


P.S. I'm a very noobish Nidalee :D
So, all that I say may happen to be total ****.

Also...

Mmmmhhmmm, what? Surge on Lux? Did I miss something? :D
Sorry, but if pick Surge, only on hybrids like WW, Nid or Jax.

I like the way you play with nidalee but never tried the summoner spell heal since she has one also i like the mastery point build and item build of yours (you could buy mejai soulstealer sometimes it's so much fun if you do that 20x.That means if you hit a spear you will do a LOT of damage.)
Many people don't like nidalee and think the only skill she has spear(she has the most number of skills than any heroes including with the cougar form ability).Whatever i also don't like playing AD with Nidalee.There is no fun with playing with an AD Nidalee cuz i think the main part is spears.And some people says spear is not dependable if you can't hit the spears then don't play with Nidalee.Nidalee is a champ which requires a lot of skill(don't look at the hardiness level riot made ^^).I also have one more thing to say.Personally i select buschwack first(do not underestimate its powers since i have a lot of kill with that.Just imagine you hit a spear at the enemy champion and that lucker nearly has 50 hp and run off.Don't worry your buschwack will do the job if you put it on a good place like near enemy turret it could be pretty usefull.That's all i want to say.Thank you for this great guide.Nidalee is my fav hero she rocks! :D

so many things wrong with this guide I don't even have the time to comment on all of them, but here are a few:

flat mana regen blue are bad, you may as well get scaling because they'll surpass flat by like level 5. Second, Boots of Swiftness is totally unnecessary. You really only need boots one for the majority of the game, there is no reason to postpone Catalyst/RoA for Boots of Swiftness

Lich bane is a fine item, but you seem to have more of an emphasis on support and long range poke than pushing. The movement speed is pretty negligible on Nidalee if you're not pushing, you should have enough from cougar form, pounce, and T2 boots.

heal might be a little overkill, it's certainly not bad, but there are probably better options. Your quints are all over the place and totally random.

also the 1 point in +1 attack damage mastery is random and worthless, may as well put it into the scout mastery in utility

also your skill priority is pretty random, no pattern, no real viable explanation. Ranking spear first over heal is fine, I still recommend 2 points in heal pre-level 6, but Bushwhack? come on man, it's all over the place

Sorry but I had to downvote this, there are so many things wrong with this guide it would be a disservice to anyone who's made a nidalee guide/anyone using this guide.

@denton

My dear friend, go play ranked games and try having fun with "main part of Nidalee" by maxing out your q. Bet you, you aren't gonna be very happy most of the times.
It's not about being able to throw spears. It's about dodging it. After 10-20 games vs. decent Nidalee's any more or less good player knows how do position himself and dodge spears and even further, if they can't dodge it, they will close distance to nullify the bonus damage effect.
Also, until you have some AP, spear doesn't do ****, unless hit at a max range. It gets very powerful mid game, not early.
Any decent enemy will just harass you back while your amazing spear is on cooldown and you won't have anything to heal it with.

And I believe you forget about the AS and Cougar Form ability bonuses. By leveling out e, you get yourself an easy farming tool right @ level 6.

Whatever you say about being able to play Nidalee, I disagree with the statement that her spear is main part of her.
Watch hotshot's streams after all. Sometimes he doesn't throw a single spear until level 10 or 12. And that tells something, if high elo player does it that way.


P.S. I'm not neglecting that maxing q and building mejai's + 4 deathcaps is an awesome newbstomping method :D Very fun, but it doesn't work in higher skill-level games.

As a counter to everyone screaming about Heal, I chose it becasue I run it every time and it has saved my teams' *** repeatedly during games. They yell at me for picking it and then when it saves them they end up praising my use of it. The point is I can do a blanket heal for my team when they need it most during team fights and give us those .2 seconds more that we need to finish the team fight at least mostly unscathed and keep then enemy team from getting fed. I don' grab Ignite or Exhaust or things like that because Nidalee should be bursting people down and allowing her team to get fed and only picking off with spears if you team can no longer reach them behind turrets.

The point of this guide is to be a strong support with her heals and map awareness and yet still be able to AP carry if needed. I do not emphasize farm in bot because your lane mate needs it and you will get fed off of spear kills if your good with your skill shots. Though in mid and solo top you should be taking all you can get as its there and free and no one else is going to take it.

I prioritize harass on bot lane as it gives my carry I'm laning with the ability to save their mana and abilities for ganks and farming rather then focusing on harassing the team. It also makes them more afraid of us so they are less willing to come try to kill us while my carry is trying to farm themselves silly.

Also, I do not condone mid as it is a stupid choice for Nidalee but I have been forced to mid becasue of bad players or no one else picked a champion who could mid after I locked. It is workable if you do it properly and are cautious but I really hate midding with her. Bot is my preferred lane all the way to get my carry fed with farm. I state how to do it here in case you absolutely must mid as it can be workable but only if absolutely necessary. If you are very good with her spears, however, you should not have too much of a problem landing them, even in mid.

As a rebuttal to solo top- if you are kiting first and not jumping in stupidly then this build works just fine. Ive had many successful games with solo top with this build and only one or two failures with new junglers who did not gank properly and got me killed a lot.

As for why I grab spear first- I have been playing Nidalee since around April of last year as my absolute main and play her 90% of my games. I have tried heal first, I have tried trap first and to be honest neither of them give you the things your spear does as far as keeping your carry safe. If I need to heal my carry that early either their lane is nasty and we need a gank fast or I'm not doing my part (in my opinion) to support and protect my carry and keep them away from them in the first place. I have become good enough with my spear that I rarely miss, and if you are the type of person who missed often, especially in ranked, this is not a build for you as my Nidalee requires a lot of kiting and hitting with that spear.

A note on my runes- These are purely runes for early game. They are not meant to scale for the whole game. They are their to get my to my RoA and Tear and after that the only things I need really are my magic Pen. Nidalee is the type of champion who needs a strong early game. If you can pull that off you'll be able to build anything you need with your tiems. hence why I focus around runes only for early game. I don't need the scaling.


The one point in AD masteries was a mistake and I dont know why I didn't catch it. (I finished this sucker late at night and must not have been thinking).

As far as RoA for Rylais- If you actually read my item description I go over this. I pick RoA becasue I like the extra damage with it from Archangel's Passive and it's mana. I also state Rylais is a great pick on her as well and I also get this depending on the game. They are both good options on her depending on where you are in the game as well as if your spamming more or hitting and chasing.

I will update the skill priority to list to better reflect how i pick things up in game, but I prioritize Spear and Heal with traps last. Yes they do a lot of damage but I use them for a zoning and map awareness tool more then a source of heavy damage, so I leave them till later.


PERSONAL NOTE TO MOONINITES:

I saw your profile and it states you play AD solo top Nidalee. Have you tried hard AP Nidalee in the way my build states? Probably not. Read what I have written and actually try my build before you start bashing it so terribly please. There is a reason for the things I do and the fact that you call it a disservice flies in the face of reason when you are taking from the experience of playing Nidalee is a very different way.



I will make sure to update my build right away with these notes to clarify things for people. But please, if you aren't sure why I did something, please read the corresponding section because the reason why I did these things is most probably written there.