Around 10-15 mins
By 30-35 minutes
start Gromp, get a big leash, because you will immeditaley go for blue buff then either scuttle crab or wolves. Next you can either get scuttle and counter jungle and get their krugs(be sure to leave the small one) or simply go to youyr other jungle and get your raptors, red and krugs. after this you shoukd have round enough to back, if not attempt a gank, but be sure to not die unless you get a kill or two from it. make it #wurf.