Shyvana Build Guide by SilverSeer

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League of Legends Build Guide Author SilverSeer

Shyvana(Jungle) - Who Says Dragons Aren't Sexy?

Last updated on February 16, 2012

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Quote \| PM \| +Rep by Xenasis » February 16, 2012 8:37am \| Report madalin120988 wrote: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL, what a noob, maybe you might want to remember that thing that Phreak said in the champion spotlight: "sticking to ONE target and destroying it's health bar" or "champion that promotes aggression". If you cannot do that with Shyvana and all you do is ult that means you can stop playing her now :)) Phreak is also the same person who uses Ignite on blue buff as Shaco and builds glass cannon Irelia with Berserker's Greaves, his word is far from law. I myself would defend the 21 defence on Shyv due to the fact that off tanks need to be able to take hits, though I'd say Enlightenment would've been a better choice. Shyvana isn't a carry so doesn't rely on damage, either. @SilverSeer Why do you opt for Twin Bite over Flame Breath at level 8 and above? Flame Breath results in far more hard hitting Twin Bites because of your passive, as well as a harder hitting ranged attack (albeit that's not really a good point) I think you also get far too much damage late game that could have been obtained with an Atma's. Your build has 2845 health (according to Mobafire), which would give 56.9 AD along with the crit chance and armour. I'd take that over the Bloodthirster any day. I wouldn't say Trinity Force was so good later on on Shyvana either, you need to be able to take hits as you go into fights, I'd go with a Warmogs or Frozen Mallet, I'd go for the latter since you REALLY need a slow as Shyvana since you have no hard CC and Trinity Force isn't exactly a reliable slow.	Xenasis <Scout> Prominent (164) Posts: 2457 Joined: 2011-01-14 IGN: Xenasis on EUW View My Blog

Quote \| PM \| +Rep by madalin120988 » February 16, 2012 10:23am \| Report Not saying that what Phreak says is law, just that in this case he is very right, off-tanks need to be able to kill, as well as take damage, but they must not be indestructible, otherwise why would someone want to ever focus them instead of the carries? Especially someone like Shyvana who has NO CC whatsoever, all she has is damage, if you don't have that everyone will just ignore you and your team will die all around you without anything you can do. It's the same problem that Garen or Renekton have when they go tanks(why someone would build these champions with 5 defensive items is beyond me). But yeah, Phreak can go wrong. For instance, in the champion spotlight he used hybrid items and we all know that hybrid Shyvana really bites the big one. Check out my Shyvana Guide by clicking on the image and my second guide here:Xin Zhao:Time to Get Impaled	madalin120988 Notable (23) Posts: 301 Joined: 2011-09-20

Quote \| PM \| +Rep by SilverSeer » February 16, 2012 2:23pm \| Report Xenasis wrote: Phreak is also the same person who uses Ignite on blue buff as Shaco and builds glass cannon Irelia with Berserker's Greaves, his word is far from law. I myself would defend the 21 defence on Shyv due to the fact that off tanks need to be able to take hits, though I'd say Enlightenment would've been a better choice. Shyvana isn't a carry so doesn't rely on damage, either. @SilverSeer Why do you opt for Twin Bite over Flame Breath at level 8 and above? Flame Breath results in far more hard hitting Twin Bites because of your passive, as well as a harder hitting ranged attack (albeit that's not really a good point) I think you also get far too much damage late game that could have been obtained with an Atma's. Your build has 2845 health (according to Mobafire), which would give 56.9 AD along with the crit chance and armour. I'd take that over the Bloodthirster any day. I wouldn't say Trinity Force was so good later on on Shyvana either, you need to be able to take hits as you go into fights, I'd go with a Warmogs or Frozen Mallet, I'd go for the latter since you REALLY need a slow as Shyvana since you have no hard CC and Trinity Force isn't exactly a reliable slow. 1.I agree with these points almost all the way to be honest. I have in the items section as those being good items so i don't see really what to discuss although the point about atma's I will definitely try and test and look into it, sounds interesting, I simply bought bloodthirster for the lifesteal. Very interesting idea, I'll definitely make sure to get back to you on it once I've tried it, and an earlier trinity force... 2.I level flame breath over twin bite now I suppose I forgot to update that thanks! 3.thanks so much for the feedback I think I can really make my guide better with this. Madalin120988, just be quiet please, I will block you and delete anything you've ever written on this guide if needed -.- Victory Needs No Explanation. Defeat Allows None. Click on that picture to head on over to my Hecarim guide!!	SilverSeer Unremarkable (12) Posts: 75 Joined: 2011-06-24 IGN: SilverSeer723 on NA

Quote \| PM \| +Rep by madalin120988 » February 16, 2012 4:28pm \| Report Don't understand the sudden change in attitude, have I offended you in any way? :\| Anyhow, I don't really care, do what you want, block me if you must, although all I said against you is about the 21 in Defense. I'd call it constructive criticism. I have my own Shyvana guide and so I'm certainly not going to weep over yours, lol. Just because I posted a lot of things in a short time, or because I got into arguments with other people, well I've got some news, that's the whole purpose of this site :)), so people can discuss strategies and points of view. Sure, it would be nice to be in a civilized way, but the way that guy talked to me was very irritating, so I just responded in a similar matter(never have I insulted him). If I would have at least troll-voted you, maybe you'd have a reason to be mad, but I didn't :). If you want, I'll just save you the trouble and delete my posts myself, I can do that, you know :-p... Check out my Shyvana Guide by clicking on the image and my second guide here:Xin Zhao:Time to Get Impaled	madalin120988 Notable (23) Posts: 301 Joined: 2011-09-20

Quote \| PM \| +Rep by tehAsian » February 16, 2012 5:05pm \| Report This is a good guide, and I like the way you use hybrid runes for Shyvana. IT IS TRUE THAT SHE DOES 50/50 MAGIC/PHYSICAL DAMAGE. I even have the stats to prove it. Anyway, back on topic, your guide is short and sweet, but I have several concerns with your guide and build. 1. You're jungling without sustain? Shyvana is a very fast jungler, but that doesn't mean,"Haha, I kill everything so fast I take no damage!" No matter how fast she jungles, starting with boots+pots won't be enough to bring you to mid game. Hell, starting with boots doesn't matter, but you don't include the option to put in lifesteal runes. If Wriggles doesn't suit you, get Vamp Scepter and the Razors, since you're going into BT and BR anways. 2. Wraiths should be done first, then Red. They ARE weak enough that you do not take too much damage while fighting them, and they can be cleared before Red spawns. Also, from your jungle route, it looks like you're only ganking, which is not accurate. Shyvana is a terrible ganker, and she NEEDS for someone to overextend. They aren't always overextended, however, so the route is somewhat misleading. 3. As stated in the earlier comments, your skill sequence is still not updated. Also, you say that early damage output is insane. This is also incorrect because pre-update you max Q first. If you opt E over Q then you do significantly more burst, and therefore more damage, than Q over E. I'll check back later and vote if I like your explanations and/or responses. :3 LaCorpse's Signature Cafe Thanks to Keondre, JhoiJhoi, Xiron, and Arcana3 for the Sigs~! Jungle Shyvana \| Solo Top Jax	tehAsian <Scout> Prominent (179) Posts: 2742 Joined: 2011-07-20 IGN: tehAsian on NA View My Blog

Quote \| PM \| +Rep by Keeper of the Seven Keys » February 16, 2012 7:30pm \| Report Lol I never said she was squishy xD also you do realize my last post was saying how pointless it is to argue with you? Btw a 25 bonus in armor/mr does not make you all that tanky it helps ofc but. I also gotta laugh because A no one builds Garen full tank and B you could and he'd still do tons of damage! Also you pretty much did this one is straight from your guide: "on Shyvana being a hybrid tanky-DPS, something with which I cannot agree, even though that's the way Phreak suggested to build her in the champion spotlight." Good job I don't even have to put effort in you did it for me. Now can we stop this nonsense? your guide is well put together tho I have to disagree with it I tried Ironic Spark awhile ago and it by no means compares to Wits End. Also the damage every 4 hits does not stack with Twin Bite and the mr on Wits End saves you more than the hp it gives anyways. Now I see no reason for your trolling back and forth over a difference in play style you have the facts, live with it. I'd like for that to be the end of this so we can move on to more impotent topics about this guide. Fine if no one will do anything than I'll win my self.	Keeper of the Seven Keys Unremarkable (1) Posts: 16 Joined: 2012-01-27 IGN: Keeperofthe7keys on NA

Quote \| PM \| +Rep by SilverSeer » February 16, 2012 7:34pm \| Report tehAsian wrote: This is a good guide, and I like the way you use hybrid runes for Shyvana. IT IS TRUE THAT SHE DOES 50/50 MAGIC/PHYSICAL DAMAGE. I even have the stats to prove it. Anyway, back on topic, your guide is short and sweet, but I have several concerns with your guide and build. 1. You're jungling without sustain? Shyvana is a very fast jungler, but that doesn't mean,"Haha, I kill everything so fast I take no damage!" No matter how fast she jungles, starting with boots+pots won't be enough to bring you to mid game. Hell, starting with boots doesn't matter, but you don't include the option to put in lifesteal runes. If Wriggles doesn't suit you, get Vamp Scepter and the Razors, since you're going into BT and BR anways. 2. Wraiths should be done first, then Red. They ARE weak enough that you do not take too much damage while fighting them, and they can be cleared before Red spawns. Also, from your jungle route, it looks like you're only ganking, which is not accurate. Shyvana is a terrible ganker, and she NEEDS for someone to overextend. They aren't always overextended, however, so the route is somewhat misleading. 3. As stated in the earlier comments, your skill sequence is still not updated. Also, you say that early damage output is insane. This is also incorrect because pre-update you max Q first. If you opt E over Q then you do significantly more burst, and therefore more damage, than Q over E. I'll check back later and vote if I like your explanations and/or responses. :3 +1 for you! I tried those ideas and it worked so much better!! Changes 1. Added Wriggle's Lantern to items and suggested build. 2. Changed Skills to correctly display Flame Breath over Twin Bite Victory Needs No Explanation. Defeat Allows None. Click on that picture to head on over to my Hecarim guide!!	SilverSeer Unremarkable (12) Posts: 75 Joined: 2011-06-24 IGN: SilverSeer723 on NA

Quote \| PM \| +Rep by Keeper of the Seven Keys » February 16, 2012 7:34pm \| Report Also about the Flame Breath vs Twin Bite he plays Shy as a jungler which explains the Q leveling. But yes I did math on it for him that Flame Breath does more earlier than leveling Twin Bite which stacks better late when you have a lot of ad. Fine if no one will do anything than I'll win my self.	Keeper of the Seven Keys Unremarkable (1) Posts: 16 Joined: 2012-01-27 IGN: Keeperofthe7keys on NA

Quote \| PM \| +Rep by SilverSeer » February 16, 2012 7:36pm \| Report 3. (got cut off for some reason sorry D:) I still only start red but that's really your choice, starting wraiths works but I personally am not used to it so, decide on which way you like. In my opinion that topic is playstyle/personal preference. Victory Needs No Explanation. Defeat Allows None. Click on that picture to head on over to my Hecarim guide!!	SilverSeer Unremarkable (12) Posts: 75 Joined: 2011-06-24 IGN: SilverSeer723 on NA

Quote \| PM \| +Rep by Keeper of the Seven Keys » February 16, 2012 7:42pm \| Report tehAsian wrote: 2 Shyvana is a terrible ganker, and she NEEDS for someone to overextend. They aren't always overextended, however, so the route is somewhat misleading. I run into a smiler problem when jungling Shyvana but I must say, you have not seen him play Shyvana... Fine if no one will do anything than I'll win my self.	Keeper of the Seven Keys Unremarkable (1) Posts: 16 Joined: 2012-01-27 IGN: Keeperofthe7keys on NA

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