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Skarner- Ranked Solotop

bitpik Last updated on March 30, 2012
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by Syclla » August 25, 2011 3:12am | Report

Hey so I have some comments, as someone else said, rylais is not a good item as the slow only really works on Fracture, since skarner's crystal slash already apply's a 40% 2 second debuff on all enemy targets while rylais only applys a 15% slow for 1.5s.

I enjoy Tear of the Goddess, more then purchasing the Philo stone, while not providing the HP regen, which is useful in lane it provides you with a near infinite supply of mana, and bonus damage without slowing down the build. However The missing Health regen does hurt in lane, so the starting philo stone is still a very strong choice. In terms of the gold/10 . You equation that it repays itself in 13 minutes 25 seconds is wrong. At 5 gold per 10 seconds it generates 30 gold per minute (60/10 * 5), and at 800 gold it takes 26.66 (800/30) Minutes to repay itself. that means for every additional minute you keep it, you gain 30 bonus gold (about 1.5 last hits per minute). Provided you bought your philostone 8 minutes in you will have payed it off by the 35 minute mark, and if the game runs for ~60 minutes you have doubled the amounted payed the philo stone.

I would also like to state that wits end, is not particularly viable on skarner, Even with the AS with lets you gain faster cool downs, it is hard to find a target to continuously hit in a teamfight and when you do, the small magic damage bonus, and AS don't really increase your overall damage output. I feel that the guinsoo's is a much stronger choice, with the short cd spells, it is also much more in the hybrid class then wits end.

Please add real cons, as opposed to troll cons

Also pointed out is that you have 8 items in your build, 7 if you count the fact that you sell your philo stone
(Boots, TriForce, Rylais, wits end, an armor item, a mr item, gunblade)
The other guy who point it out was correct.
The first item is a Regrowth (1 item)
Next Philo Stone (1 item)
Next Sheen (2 items)
Next Boots (3 items) 1st real item
Next Tri Force (3 items) 2nd real item
Next Rylai (4 items) 3rd real item
Sell Philo stone (3 items)
Next Wits end (4 items) 4th real item
Next Buy armor item (5 items) 5th real item
Next Buy MR item (6 items) 6th real item
Next gunblade (7 items) 7th real item
It should either not include the gunblade, or say that you want an armor OR mr item as opposed to armor AND mr items.

So, well most of the guide was well written, it does have some flaws, and when these are point out to you you call the person posting a troll.
I enjoyed the section about common counters, but the build, and the reasoning behind it was quite shaky.


Edit: if this is less then coherent I will comeback and change it later, it is really late here, and I may not have made all my points clear enough.

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by bitpik » August 25, 2011 5:01am | Report

Syclla wrote:

Hey so I have some comments, as someone else said, rylais is not a good item as the slow only really works on Fracture, since skarner's crystal slash already apply's a 40% 2 second debuff on all enemy targets while rylais only applys a 15% slow for 1.5s.

I enjoy Tear of the Goddess, more then purchasing the Philo stone, while not providing the HP regen, which is useful in lane it provides you with a near infinite supply of mana, and bonus damage without slowing down the build. However The missing Health regen does hurt in lane, so the starting philo stone is still a very strong choice. In terms of the gold/10 . You equation that it repays itself in 13 minutes 25 seconds is wrong. At 5 gold per 10 seconds it generates 30 gold per minute (60/10 * 5), and at 800 gold it takes 26.66 (800/30) Minutes to repay itself. that means for every additional minute you keep it, you gain 30 bonus gold (about 1.5 last hits per minute). Provided you bought your philostone 8 minutes in you will have payed it off by the 35 minute mark, and if the game runs for ~60 minutes you have doubled the amounted payed the philo stone.

I would also like to state that wits end, is not particularly viable on skarner, Even with the AS with lets you gain faster cool downs, it is hard to find a target to continuously hit in a teamfight and when you do, the small magic damage bonus, and AS don't really increase your overall damage output. I feel that the guinsoo's is a much stronger choice, with the short cd spells, it is also much more in the hybrid class then wits end.

Please add real cons, as opposed to troll cons

Also pointed out is that you have 8 items in your build, 7 if you count the fact that you sell your philo stone
(Boots, TriForce, Rylais, wits end, an armor item, a mr item, gunblade)
The other guy who point it out was correct.
The first item is a Regrowth (1 item)
Next Philo Stone (1 item)
Next Sheen (2 items)
Next Boots (3 items) 1st real item
Next Tri Force (3 items) 2nd real item
Next Rylai (4 items) 3rd real item
Sell Philo stone (3 items)
Next Wits end (4 items) 4th real item
Next Buy armor item (5 items) 5th real item
Next Buy MR item (6 items) 6th real item
Next gunblade (7 items) 7th real item
It should either not include the gunblade, or say that you want an armor OR mr item as opposed to armor AND mr items.

So, well most of the guide was well written, it does have some flaws, and when these are point out to you you call the person posting a troll.
I enjoyed the section about common counters, but the build, and the reasoning behind it was quite shaky.


Edit: if this is less then coherent I will comeback and change it later, it is really late here, and I may not have made all my points clear enough.


Thank you for the comment!

Yes i will try out RoA in Rylai's place but i can't at the moment, my internet hasn't worked for about 3weeks now.

I see your right about the philosopher's stone gonna change it right away.

Yes a lot of people have complained about Wit's End not being viable, but this is an answer to both questions about the item build i've gone for. Wit's end gives magic resist, with this you won't need any MR item later on and you can take a last item(in this case gunblade). This is the main reason to why i pick Wits end instead of rageblade. If you pick rage blade you can't have any last item after armor/magic resist items, Wit's end doesn't give a lot of damage but it gives enough MR. Then if you want to you can pick rage blade as last. I'm sorry for not explaining this very well in the guide.

Its hard for a guy not very good at english to solve grammar problems in the build and the reasoning behind it.

I will make some new Con's

Thank's for the CONSTRUCTIVE criticism!

Edit: There, fixed most of the problem's. Will do the rest later. It says that it pays of after 13minutes and 25seconds if you sell it.



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by Barnabys » August 25, 2011 7:10am | Report

Syclla wrote:

Hey so I have some comments,
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So, well most of the guide was well written, it does have some flaws, and when these are point out to you you call the person posting a troll.



You know.. the other guy called this build a "troll" FIRST:

MrCoon wrote:

Wow... not going to lie this build does no damage, and isn't tanky enough. Don't even have to try it, it't not like I did horrible with it and I'm QQ'ing, but you either need to be tanky AP or tanky DPS with Skarner, not a mix of the two. Also, Wit's end isn't needed at all, the MR can be found in other places that go well with building what you're trying to go for, and ATS is something you might find in a troll guide for skarner...


This post is very straight-forward downtalking, so technically, if i would get this message to my inbox, i would rage as hell.

Bitpik did a good job. Let him shine for it.

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by marisi » August 25, 2011 8:16am | Report

best skarner build i've seen till now


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by ACmilangab » August 25, 2011 5:29pm | Report

it looks pretty good ill try it now that hes free this week



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by bitpik » August 25, 2011 10:53pm | Report

10 down votes just like that? without any negative comments? -.-



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by WaffleWarrior » August 25, 2011 11:04pm | Report

bitpik wrote:

10 down votes just like that? without any negative comments? -.-

It happens man. don't get too down



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by Highper » August 26, 2011 2:54am | Report

Toplane Domination vs a Nidalee, love this!

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by bitpik » August 26, 2011 4:15am | Report

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Toplane Domination vs a Nidalee, love this!


Thx, that got me up a little :)



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by Thrythwig » August 26, 2011 6:30pm | Report

I just love it, well explained. I gave it a try and it worked for me, but something disturbs me have you any reason to buy hextech gunblade at last? I mean why not buy it earlier?

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