Sona Build Guide by astrolia

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Support Sona TL;DR

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by kateros » February 16, 2012 4:34am | Report

@Nemo

just to say it try playing taric if you think 200 heals are great, and go support items with AP on the side 400 heals are common and with a little attack speed you have little downtime on you heal(still not as short as sona but not that far away tbh), or go full AP and get those 600-700 heals you really want while bursting their squishys down.
I don't see the point in saying that she should add it when she clearly showed in her guide why she doesnt buy AA, and it doesnt help you when she also clearly said it's an aura guide and then you use "I buy it on my AP sona" as a reason and you even said yourself that you only rarely buy it in the first place as AP.

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by Nemo » February 16, 2012 6:49am | Report

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just to say it try playing taric if you think 200 heals are great, and go support items with AP on the side 400 heals are common and with a little attack speed you have little downtime on you heal(still not as short as sona but not that far away tbh), or go full AP and get those 600-700 heals you really want while bursting their squishys down.
I don't see the point in saying that she should add it when she clearly showed in her guide why she doesnt buy AA, and it doesnt help you when she also clearly said it's an aura guide and then you use "I buy it on my AP sona" as a reason and you even said yourself that you only rarely buy it in the first place as AP.


First of all, I must say it was hard for me to understand what you wrote. And no I am not going to play Taric just because he has higher heal. Yes he has, but Sona has 4,4 seconds Cooldown. Compare it to Taric's and Soraka's heal. They are big, but check out their cooldowns. Aria of Perseverance with fine amount of Ability Power is still better. I already said it and I am going to say it again --> people play on a different ways and your rushing in with: "or go full AP and get those 600-700 heals you really want while bursting their squishys down." is really low. I never even said that. My goal as building Ability Power Sona is to make sure my heal has enough power to prevent someone from dying easily and to make my damage even better what will help my team. While sacrificing additional buffs I help my team by doing high amount of damage.

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I don't see the point in saying that she should add it when she clearly showed in her guide why she doesnt buy AA


I ever said: "Hey astrolia, you are so bad. You MUST/SHOULD add Archangel's Staff to your guide and your items in game."? I just pointed out my opinion in buying Archangel's Staff

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as a reason and you even said yourself that you only rarely buy it in the first place as AP.


I buy it when it is needed, in situations when my team has really squishy champions and where I have to keep them full at any time. Also, rarely means I buy it in 50% of games, depending will I rush in with Rod of Ages before Tear of the Goddess because enemy team has really insane burst champions ( or very high damage ).

This topic is closed and I don't wanna talk about it anymore. Everyone have different game style and respect it. I respect her guide and what she wrote. My decision in not liking some of the parts is my thing.

"...........I love when this community tries to help each other, instead of just downvoting because their guides and playstyles are different!" ---> This is the answer ( taken from one build ( respond to my comment ) ).


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by astrolia » February 17, 2012 5:42am | Report

Go back to upvoting your own guide, Nemo.

In other news, this guide is archived.


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by Wayne3100 » February 17, 2012 5:54am | Report

D: Why?



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by astrolia » February 17, 2012 5:59am | Report

200% outdated due to Nautilus patch, 0 desire to fix.


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by rik11 » July 30, 2012 9:45pm | Report

this great guide. It help a lot, but actualy the oldest version of this guide was better, I don't know why you delete a topic "my carry can't posible be that retarted". You coud also say abaut how to counter a enemy suport and something abaut agresiv warding.

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by Xenotechie » August 20, 2012 8:39am | Report

Well, new set of eyes reporting for duty. Have a small list of my gripes:


  • Clairvoyance is not that good on Sona, but not for the reasons you mention here. No amount of knowledge of movement patterns or enemy mentality can substitute for the sheer utility Clairvoyance provides. It is very useful when an enemy champion breaks line of sight in a bush in order to avoid an ability or a stun. Clairvoyance fixes that. It also messes up juking, acts as a makeshift ward for overextended teammates, tracks a jungler's movements and is generally an awesome spell. The problem Sona has with it is that she lack any hard CC unlike, say, Taric, or the epic slow Nunu has, so she needs to compensate.

  • You should consider adding a poke-oriented rune and/or mastery build, you know, with magic penetration and all that stuff.

  • Matchups are pretty nice, to be honest, but not detailed. Then again, this is supposed to be a tl;dr guide, so it's probably intended.

  • OK, I really like that respawn map. Mind if I use it in my own guide?

All in all, great guide, +1.


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by astrolia » August 20, 2012 12:48pm | Report

Xenotechie wrote:

Well, new set of eyes reporting for duty. Have a small list of my gripes:
  • Clairvoyance is not that good on Sona, but not for the reasons you mention here. No amount of knowledge of movement patterns or enemy mentality can substitute for the sheer utility Clairvoyance provides. It is very useful when an enemy champion breaks line of sight in a bush in order to avoid an ability or a stun. Clairvoyance fixes that. It also messes up juking, acts as a makeshift ward for overextended teammates, tracks a jungler's movements and is generally an awesome spell. The problem Sona has with it is that she lack any hard CC unlike, say, Taric, or the epic slow Nunu has, so she needs to compensate.

  • You should consider adding a poke-oriented rune and/or mastery build, you know, with magic penetration and all that stuff.

  • Matchups are pretty nice, to be honest, but not detailed. Then again, this is supposed to be a tl;dr guide, so it's probably intended.

  • OK, I really like that respawn map. Mind if I use it in my own guide?

All in all, great guide, +1.


Hi. Thanks for the review from the Library!

  • You basically spend a lot of :words: saying that "vision is useful." Well, yes, of course it is. No one said it wasn't. What I did say was: "However, Exhaust is a very, very useful summoner spell to have for the aforementioned reasons, and taking Clairvoyance means giving up Exhaust." Also Sona's Crescendo is a hard CC (stun), so based on what you said, CV should actually be a good spell on her? No offense, but your level 23 is leaking!

  • Defense runes and masteries = Poke-oriented build. As it was expressed multiple times in the guide, you need 550 range to poke, and 550 range means you'll often get hit by crowd control and enemy pokes.

  • To be frank, there are no detailed support "match up" chapters on Mobafire, because a detailed one would require going over every possible lane with every possible carry. Bottom lane is a duo lane; you don't fight champions alone, and you aren't alone either.

  • Sure!


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by Xenotechie » August 20, 2012 1:09pm | Report

astrolia wrote:



Hi. Thanks for the review from the Library!

  • You basically spend a lot of :words: saying that "vision is useful." Well, yes, of course it is. No one said it wasn't. What I did say was: "However, Exhaust is a very, very useful summoner spell to have for the aforementioned reasons, and taking Clairvoyance means giving up Exhaust." Also Sona's Crescendo is a hard CC (stun), so based on what you said, CV should actually be a good spell on her? No offense, but your level 23 is leaking!

  • Defense runes and masteries = Poke-oriented build. As it was expressed multiple times in the guide, you need 550 range to poke, and 550 range means you'll often get hit by crowd control and enemy pokes.

  • To be frank, there are no detailed support "match up" chapters on Mobafire, because a detailed one would require going over every possible lane with every possible carry. Bottom lane is a duo lane; you don't fight champions alone, and you aren't alone either.

  • Sure!


Excuse me there, no hard CC pre-6. While still useful after the laning phase, Exhaust is most useful during the laning phase, and most of that time will be spent without the ultimate. But I digress, my point stands, athough I didn't word it properly, not using Exhaust can only work on a champion with cc that has a relatively short cooldown. No offense was taken, and I perfectly understand your reasoning now, I just got a bit too much used to playing Taric with his free armor. Thank you for the permission.


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by astrolia » August 20, 2012 3:57pm | Report

Mm I dunno.

Even on super crowd control bots like Leona and Nautilus who have even more statuses than Taric and Nunu, I would never consider "catching people with pre-6 hard cc" a definitive benefit to Clairvoyance that gives it an edge over other spells. You mentioning "pre-6" for Taric/ Nunu implies "only during early lane phase", and during early lane phase you should be warding and keeping bush control when playing as an aggressive support. If you're taking Clairvoyance it's much more beneficial to your whole team if you use Clairvoyance during the early lane phase to track the enemy jungler and roamers instead of wasting the cooldown just to pop a stun.


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