Kog'Maw Build Guide by SWAGRID

(I asked, why you didn't used lich bane And you answered as the quote below, just making it easier to follow the arguement.)

Ok well i can understand how you've thought on this matter, and i guess it makes sense in some manners.
Then i guess it's your playstyle i dont agree with. While you talk about the power of being in the back, i talk about the powers of being in there. E-Q-W (with lichbane) is a sick dmg-dealing influence.

I can't agree that the far away range should be the essential thing that provides protection, the lich bane could easily shut down people getting to close for some reason, like a suprise gank or just a freaky olaf with ghost. When i've played AP-kog, i've always found reasons to use lich bane.
Kog maw got some serious close-range dmg aswell with his Q. And bio-arcance barrage isn't even tht much of a short-range abillity.
Staying back putting all reliance on your Living Artillery doesn't seem to fair to the team tanking for you once a engage is happening. You simply doesn't dish out as much dmg as you could, or might be needed at that living artillery range. And for that reason, i still think that the Lich Bane is a essential item.

Still thanks for replying, although i've not seen the answer until now.

Voted +1
Guide is awesome, the best among the likes. I wanted to tell people how to play Kog'Maw as untouchable sniper, but you susseeded to do it faster. I have some improvements in mind. One of them was Rod of Ages, but CasterMaster was faster.
I have another idea. You build second (third) Archangel's Staff only for AP, so why don't you switch it with Mejai's Soulstealer? It gives you even more AP and CDR when fully stacked. Didn't test this yet, gonna do it now.

+1.
Had to make an account just to comment this guide. Out of all the guides on Mobafire for Kog I thought this was the funnest and coolest way to play him.

Like the build, well put together and does amazing damage (with blue buff you can spam Living Artillery much longer than the team fights should last). You do however have some problems with the details on your calculations. The calculation that caught my eye was with void staff, mainly. It's more situational than just "their team happens to have some of those champions with increasing base magic-resist". People will often build items that add to their MR, and you seem to ignore that in your comparison of Void Staff to the Archangel's Staff. Once people start getting over 100 MR, the m-pen from voidstaff becomes more and more valuable.

Anyways, +1 from me, good guide with good info, hope to see more AP kog players out there building like this!

Could lich bane work on him? With his w range and spammable ult he could proc it multiple times and still be able to hit enemies from afar.

IMO u should RELLY RELLY HARD consider using smartcast!! It will help u so much spamming all of your spells! But that's my oppinion! I haven't tried AP kog (but i will soon) but i think it's be much better?

Oh, I forgot to mention in my earlier post, peoples' (and your above stated) reasoning on Manamune seems to be severely flawed, and even if Manamune's passive wasn't unique, Archangel's Staff is still a much better choice for damage, and here's why.

When comparing ability power and attack damage, ability power is easier to get in higher values. Rabadon's Deathcap comes with 140 flat AP and increases all AP (even its own) by 30%, while the similar item for attack damage, the Infinity Edge, gives 80 attack damage. That means if you have a skill that scales off of both equally well, and you need to use that skill for your damage, you should go with ability power stacking because you can wrack up higher values for it as opposed to AD.

Now I know what you're thinking, "But silly Trenditon, Living Artillery gains damage equal to 30% of your ability power, but 50% of your bonus AD! That means buying AD is more beneficial!" Well right, and very very wrong. If each point of ability power was just as expensive as each point of attack damage you would be right, but AP can be bought in much more abundance than AD can. So let's do the math and compare the damage you would get from a couple of Manamunes and compare it to the damage from two Archangel's Staves:

Two Archangel's Staves (given that you already bought Rabadon's):

• 90 flat AP
• 800 flat mana
• 1000 mana from unique passive
• 6% of mana as ability power
• 30% AP increase due to Rabadon's

(1800[mana] * .06[2 * .03 AP per mana passives] + 90[flat AP]) * 1.3[Rabadon's unique passive] * .3[AP scaling on living artillery] * 2.5[250% damage on living artillery when it hits champions] = 193.05 bonus damage on living artillery

Without the Rabadon's passive multiplier, the bonus damage would only be 148.5. Now, this doesn't take into consideration the MR values of the target, and doesn't take into account any other sources of mana that the archangel's staves have to convert to ability power. Now let's look at manamune.



Two Manamunes (assuming passives were stackable):

• 40 flat AD
• 700 flat mana
• 1000 mana from unique passive
• 4% of mana as attack damage (with a theoretically stacking passive)

(1700[mana] * .04[2*.02 AD per mana passives] + 40[flat AD]) * .5[AD scaling on living artillery] * 2.5[250% damage on living artillery when it hits champions] = 135 bonus damage on living artillery

As you can see, even if you could buy multiple Manamunes and have the passives stack, Archangel's Staff is just a much better choice, as it gives you more flat mana to use, a LOT more mana regen per 5, and gives you 43% more damage (without adding in extra base mana and mana from other items) on your living artillery than two manamunes would have.

man this is a REALLY nice tip! Thanks alot. I will add it to the changes. I never really thought about it and you are right. I might consider it for my other champs and future build too. Appriciated!

Hey man! Just keep on trying. Usually you get a feeling when to shoot out Void Ooze. Only when this hit and you are still in a good position then you should activate Bio-Arcane Barrage. maybe you want to check out my little video again. If you cannot detect if I just used the arcane barrage due to the quality or because it was too quick, just check out if the CD is activated :)

Keep on surfin

Hello Mr Eldrazi!
I honestly do not think you can get a better item then Rylai's Crystal Scepter. It provides very nice AP and very much health. This slow is acutally which makes it so good. Once you have hit someone with Living Artillery they are having a hard time.
+ it helps often to escape.
Will of the Ancients or Hextech Gunblade might work quite well instead. But here is what I think about it.
In general you should be always behind or have a decent range. This should not bring you too much in trouble, so you should not rely so much on spell vamp, because they rarely hit you.
Second: If you are being it and you want to recharge your health with spell vamp, you hit them multiple times and gain a couple hundred health back. so far so good BUT Rylai's Crystal Scepter provides already couple of hundreds.
But then again, go out and try it with Will of the Ancients but more health + long range cc, I do recommend the scepter over hit.
One last thing though, if you like spell vamp, check out my first guide. It is for my favourite champ Karthus . This guide shows you how to abuse spell vamp!