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League of Legends Build Guide Author Taneren

Taric - All Around Support / AP, Jungle / AD & Tank

Taneren Last updated on February 9, 2012
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Taneren (177) | June 10, 2012 2:41pm
Moonedge wrote:




Moonedge will be another.


Correct, together with Albableat.

CasterMaster, Moonedge and Albableat
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Moonedge (77) | June 10, 2012 2:01pm
Taneren wrote:


Due to all 3 of my guides getting outdated, and I turned inactive I had a couple of kind people helping me re-update them.

CasterMaster will be one of those.



Moonedge will be another.
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Taneren (177) | June 10, 2012 11:13am

Taneren has become extremely inactive on Mobafire. In discussion with whether I should take over his guides or not.

Due to all 3 of my guides getting outdated, and I turned inactive I had a couple of kind people helping me re-update them.

CasterMaster will be one of those.
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CasterMaster (316) | June 8, 2012 5:11pm
Taneren has become extremely inactive on Mobafire. In discussion with whether I should take over his guides or not.
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Brettstick | June 8, 2012 4:54pm
ITS GONE NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
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jmbento | June 8, 2012 8:19am
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo this is the best Guide for Taric, bring it BACK!!!
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Sam4Vimes | June 6, 2012 12:13pm
Hi! Great guide only thing that I think is missing is a really good item section. For example u should add Locket of the Iron Solari. But anyways really good guide. +1
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monmonPLUS | June 6, 2012 11:30am
HI dude... wow... this is a great guide....
I just joined mobafire recently and rushed for a taric guide because i'm a fan of the champ...
But before i saw your guide i already playing taric...
and i found that my way of playing taric is different...
most of the time when i play at ranked i won 4 over 5 matches... so i thought i don't need a guide...
"I just want to ask if a mixed role taric is reccomended or not?" because everytime i play him... i always a support early game and go for tank at mid to late game...
even though we won most of the time... i found out that we won just about to 25 - 35 mins in every game approx... beyond that... when its really hard to finish the match that early we often lost...
overall this guide made me realize many things about taric.... i see now that i played him in a wrong way...
thank you for this guide ... i'm looking forward for your reply...
GREAT^^
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Legendaryfruits | June 5, 2012 10:06pm
Lol I love this guy. I sadly went 9/8/32.... D:
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Robo Ninja Monky (52) | June 4, 2012 8:58am

Up-Voted! x2 (if I could)



Awesome build and a great guide to accompany it =) I'm a total noob when it comes to supports other than nautilus and alistar so when I decided to branch out I used this and it helped me sooo much, thanks! =P



*Side Note* If you have the time check out my Graves guide by clicking my signature, much appreciated if you do =)


*edit* omg update this! It's so good =( do what caster said at least! haha!
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Taneren (177) | June 2, 2012 2:04pm
Keondre @

Thank you <33 xoxo

Caster @

I got so mad when I saw people with updated guides, yet out dated information - I refuse to do it myself. I had a lot of PMs and people contacting me including RL mates asking me to update it. I know how simple it is to update it, just with my current LoL knowledge, but I have no interest in it period.

I'm sorry, still stuck as a GM on ZhyperWoW - Its taking my time lately.

Edit: I appreciate all the nice words, I truly do. I was amazed to lie above Karmas amazing guide for a period until my guide went outdated. Once day I might be back to update it ;)
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Trallie (1) | June 2, 2012 5:48am
Amazing Taric guide! +1 from me.
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CasterMaster (316) | June 1, 2012 7:09pm
Just a simple 2 clicks, one on edit and another on publish and it'll be back to ideal =P
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Keondre (221) | June 1, 2012 6:56pm
Well too bad. You can have knowledge of LoL without actually playing it. Your guides are really really good, too bad they won't be updated D:
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Taneren (177) | June 1, 2012 6:52pm
Brettstick wrote:

guides getting pretty stale.
maybe an update?

I haven't played League of Legends in quite a while. So this guide is really outdated (Pre-Jungle changes). That is why all of my 3 guides are / will expire soon. I'm sorry. If I begin to play League of Legends again, I will update them.
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Brettstick | May 30, 2012 1:14pm
guides getting pretty stale.
maybe an update?
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XeresAce (90) | May 21, 2012 12:33pm
So i went bot with my carry (sivir) which INSISTED i take clarity , so i coped.
when she got pulled by blitz and the enemy ashe got FB , she rage quited and i was left to solo.
Our team needed some serious ad , so i went ad/offtank taric .
I was farming for ages , just healing myself , using clarity when i was low on mana , eventually the game ended with me having a 2/4/32 score :'D
I was doing a lot of damage , but i was letting our cass and riven(who was doing poorly , which is why our team needed some ad ) the kills :3
Taric es numero uno support huehuehue.
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Niex | May 18, 2012 1:17pm
Idk how you don't enjoy your Tank Build for Taric honestly it is pretty amazing, i use it and play a Tank/Support so items i don't buy in your order however, I rarely die, Enemies do not focus me because i'm highly durable so either I am free bashing on them to heal my party and yes i'm able to keep them all alive most of the time as your tank spec, or they bash on me and i'm able to survive long enough for my team to pick them apart.
I play Taric Tank/Support and Naut Tank/Support
Mobile compared to Slow as ****
Amazingly Durable all game compared to **** brick House Late Game
Stuns/Heals Provide easy fed lane mate compared to Slows/Grabs Keep them off your lane mate and you dont need to move

Both are incredible and i recommend them as tank supports, Your Taric tank guide gets an A+ imo
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Enivid | May 12, 2012 10:27am
Hmmmm, tried this build a few times. Lost 3 times in a row and went with the situational options also, also read through the guide a few times so I definitely gave everything a go ! Maybe I just wont use Taric anymore lol
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Xyonon (1) | May 11, 2012 5:16am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7SkrYF8lCU
Music for Kog'Maw :D

However, great guide! Gonna buy Taric tonight! :)
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Padookey | May 5, 2012 11:15pm
Great build! Really helped raise my ELO, thank you!
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Death D (4) | May 5, 2012 5:12pm
yo
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Acoil (14) | May 5, 2012 2:37am
Hello Taneren, well i found a mistake on your mastery page on Tank Taric, you did take 1 point in Summoner's Resolve and i see your summoner spells are Flash & Exhaust how should that help? you can use the 1 point in Magic resist?
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nico280 | April 25, 2012 10:59pm
Good guide, Heres a song for kogmaw:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apYLb4HcYV8&feature=channel&list=UL
might not fit the style of the other songs but its pretty good and he also has a lot af songs for other champs (karma 2 i think)
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cjgrimmreaper (2) | April 25, 2012 10:40pm
Thank you for making this guide. It has helped me countless times and makes playing Taric appear simpler. :D
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faker285 (4) | April 23, 2012 9:15pm
What do i do against a hecarim??!??!?!?!? Or Ahri she is beast
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Taneren (177) | April 23, 2012 8:12am
Thanks for all the comments xD

@neshkenBGD
Hah, I noticed it as you said it xD +rep. Well, I'm not really doing it much more anyways, because there are stronger junglers. But its mainly for those who played so much, that they need a challenging champion.
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NeshkeBGD (35) | April 21, 2012 4:55am
Great builds,but say why r u playing Taric as an jungle.One more thing:this comment before mine....Dude doesn't know how to count.:D
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Vilhelmasss | April 18, 2012 11:46am
OP TARIC BUILD I TRIED TARIC 3 TIMES
1 time was fail because caitlyn did less dmg then i did
2nd time it was 11/0/20 ;D
3rd i don't remember
4rd time 5/0/17
All ranked :D
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dragoncds | April 18, 2012 9:53am
thx for guild
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Harris894 | April 18, 2012 8:37am
U can go Hybrid Taric too...try it
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Shinster (1) | April 17, 2012 5:51pm
Just wanted to say thanks for an in-depth guide like this.
It helped me with using Taric a LOT. Appreciate it.
Keep up the great work!
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Death D (4) | April 16, 2012 11:13am
this build covers some, but still not everything, TWISTEDTREELINE
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MiguelxPTo | April 16, 2012 10:29am
"TARIC Y U NO START ON LE BLUE BUFF?". AHAHAH

+1 just for that joke. And +3 for the guide :). It is awesome.
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Keondre (221) | April 14, 2012 9:17pm
Awesome guide. very good and thorough. You are a good person, and thanks for the guide. First Taric game led to a lot of HUEHUEHUEING.
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Wadad | April 9, 2012 7:39pm
Thanks for this wonderful guide. I think I mastered our good Taric, and haven't lost any games since....... quite a while.
(Last game, 4/12/50. 1 hours game. I was on 84% of the kills.)

Anyway, +1.
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Oogre | April 8, 2012 2:22pm
+1 Man.

Support section : you have forgot bliztcrank.

bye
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Taneren (177) | April 5, 2012 1:36pm
No worries ^.^ Anyways I will start up playing Taric soon again (I had a break from LoL, got mad all the time, so I needed a break from it) and update the guide, as the Jungle and support section is outdated.
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Slu33ert | April 5, 2012 7:55am
Ah okey :P I read the whole thing, but I guess I forgot about it xD
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Taneren (177) | April 5, 2012 7:47am
Read the introduction ^.^ I'm giving a link for a decent dominion build.

I myself do not play dominion, which is why I do not cover that part in this guide.

As I said above, I only make guides about something I play :)
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Slu33ert | April 5, 2012 6:16am
Okey thanks for the reply Taneren :) Nice guide anyway. Just wanted to know. Btw how is this guide when looking upon Dominion? is support roles and champs like Taric viable and good?
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Taneren (177) | April 5, 2012 4:53am
I haven't played him as a jungler in ages (which is why the jungle path is outdated) and tank is not something I like and stopped doing as well.. I LOVE him as AP carry and support, he is really strong at those two points, while AD is decent. The reason I added the tank part is to new players who loves being unkillable.

But yes, I wouldn't make a guide about something I didn't play.
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Slu33ert | April 5, 2012 1:14am
@Castermaster: Yeah, I know he's a support hero, but I don't see the point in building him like anything else when other champs will be a better option when you wanna tank, carry or jungle :P I guess he's a great support hero and I was just wondering if the creator really plays him as a tank, jungler and ad carry.
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CasterMaster (316) | April 4, 2012 3:44pm
Slu33rt: Taric was meant to be a support
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Slu33ert | April 4, 2012 3:39pm
Nice guide +1, but I was wondering, do you mostly play as a support? I kind of get the impression that Taric is best suited that way, and even if you have made an AP/AD/Tank section. I guess all other champions that fills those roles are better options and if you are going anything else than support you are just wasting space? :P I haven't really played a lot with him, but I would like to know.
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MysteriousCrazyPig | April 4, 2012 12:08am
Good build +1
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ZattoR | April 3, 2012 10:13am
Hi men! Great guide... I've been using the tank and some times de support builds, and they fit great in the team... This is a great champ... But i got a question, my main champ is mordekaiser, i play him very well... But i love to be the tanky, just because almost nobody likes to... And i dont know if i shall be full tanky with taric, or buy some other tanky champ, like rammus or ammumu, what do you say? Taric tank? or another one?
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Dtjw85 | April 1, 2012 12:23pm
Started playing Taric after i read this guide. Played over 10 games as support and only lost 1 game. So easy to dominate lane with AD or AP carry. Excellent build and guide +1
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l33tm4st3r (3) | March 29, 2012 4:15am
+1

Best Taric guide of all!
I've read all and it really helped me - first game with Taric and still i did great :)
thanks :)
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TheOtherWiggan (2) | March 27, 2012 11:54am
I really enjoyed your jungling part. I hadn't really thought to jungle with Taric. I'm not really a great jungler and really appreciate the depth in which you went into it and explained it. Thanks a ton and +1 for you!
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JusticeBastion (2) | March 27, 2012 2:42am
Quoted:
Lets start off with Ninja's tabi are not the best shoes for Taric, but they can be of use. The 25armor and 12dodge are a good counter vs heavy AD-teams,and this item should ONLY be bought if the team is filled with melee and AD characters.

You might want to change this, due to the update that came with the changes of Jax.
else, good job.
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Skigo (3) | March 23, 2012 1:30pm
Fantastic guide and build. I usually just vary slightly off of the build each game, but I really learned a fantastic way to play taric Thanks!

+1
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tomaso (1) | March 17, 2012 4:26pm
nice guide,good explanation, nice all round
everything is nice :D +1
I have just one question about the AD build:
what if somebody from the other team buys madred's?
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Toborg | March 11, 2012 8:42am
AWSOME job! I just played a ranked and followed this guide and I tanked everything and healed my whole team ! GO ON , gj!
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Noxious Banana | March 9, 2012 6:30pm
Great guide bro but I feel that Taric needs some CDR so I usually go for 9 "Greater Glyph of Focus" instead of the "Greater Glyph of Warding" because MR isn't that useful if you're gonna bot lane since it's usually an AD carry that you're gonna face and for the mana well, just hit some minions and if your teammate isn't bad you won't run out of mana easily.

What do you think?
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XnyancatX (3) | March 9, 2012 3:59pm
Never really thought of jungle teric, but I guess its actually really viable. Shatter does aoe... and he is a pretty pro bruiser, and he has his stun for ganks :)
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Ninethlife | March 5, 2012 5:53pm
Let me first say i love the guide.... I am new to LOL (less than a month playing and there is a ton that i do not understand ,, i often wonder why without any deaths the enemy team seems to outpace me and by midgame i am so far behind im not much help, this guide really helped me with my build and with what items to buy... I do have one basic noob question tho,, could you explain the accranyms plz,, i get most of the roles and the support role that i plan on playing however i dont really know what AD, AP, ad-carry, ap-junngle??? is there a difference,, i understand that this is a guide and this question prob is answered some where else but i this guide answeres every other question i had.. Thanks again for the guide.
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Bhoges | February 27, 2012 5:20pm
Really awsome. impressed how u explain everything! +1
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Rijeka | February 24, 2012 9:57am
Love your support Taric build :D just tried it in ranked and went 2-3-16.
With a win of course. Great guide love how you explain everything.
+1
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Erukanu (1) | February 24, 2012 12:25am
Charlie "Shen" once said : This is pure winning +1 0/1/13
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Silverlux | February 21, 2012 9:33am
I've mostly played Taric as a support, and sometimes tank. Than I tried jungle Taric and managed to beat the enemy's Warwick! (He wasn't the best Warwick out there, but still)
Great guide, and the 'how to lane vs champ x' part is very useful.
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Sunli Min (19) | February 20, 2012 12:17am
I lol'd at how you have Jungle Taric, that you state is viable and good, just not the fastest. but then "Tank Taric", way more commonly seen then jungle taric, you stated that tank taric is bad and you dont recommend it xD idk i just find it funny how you accept jungle as good but tank as bad :P
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great tsuna (1) | February 18, 2012 11:09am
I been playing with Taric a lot recently and I personally look at this guide for some reference. I think it would be a good idea to add strategies to help players have some guidance on how to support or even like solo top.
For example, Taric is bot as support, when and when not to harass opponents. So if they do not have have someone that can cc as much as taric's dazzle, what advantages can you and your team mate make out of this?
So that way when others read your guide, they can think more critically and not make certain mistakes.
It will not be like, "this is how you must play", but more like if this situation occurs, this is your possible way you can play Taric.

BTW +1 on this guide
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Kathorin (2) | February 16, 2012 2:34am
I love how this guide has every possible angle you can play Taric as!

I tried Support a while ago, and it works really well with a few personal tweaks (already commented on that).

I'm now taking AP Taric for a spin. And i can safely say that he hits like a truck! Ranged AD Carries are nothing to AP Taric. His armor aura makes them do close to no damage, and when you get a Dazzle off you can twoshot them with Shatter and Radiance.

These two specs are the ebst in my opinion. I think rolling as tank is kind of boring, and as AD he doesn't really do much damage until endgame.
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The P3Z | February 15, 2012 11:17pm
Hey man, Love this guide. I was really new to LoL when I read this guide and played Taric for the first time. I really taught me how to be a pro support player, and it rocks!
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Sidra | February 14, 2012 8:11am
Um this is a real big request but you might wanna like redo your whole Jungling guide. Sins the new jungle came out ( and thats a while ago ) this guide gives you to much sustainabilty early on. You might be able to squish in some damage or change out the runes. Also you know they lowered the amount of gold you get from jungle so you cant pick up thoes boots at the point you want us to go back, you have to get wolf camp again.
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BlueChris | February 14, 2012 4:06am
About you're AD build: The Manamume is a non-sens... you said it's because you're mana hungry in the early/mid-game but you're getting it kinda late so you wont have it for the early and during the mid you should be able to get blue without any probleme with ur lifesteal/heal. Even without blue the laning phase should be near it's end when you get that mana regen. And since you don't get tear of the goddess early it's passive will be wasted :D
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Evolchild (2) | February 13, 2012 1:45pm
Good guide! +1 from me.

I would reccommend changing "Starks Ferver" to "Zeke's Herald", as they remade the item and it would be a good item for support / tank taric now.

Also, thoughts on other new item "Locket of the Iron Solari"? It seems pretty great for a support Taric, as it gives him an AoE shield, health, and aura.
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War Killer MAx (1) | February 12, 2012 10:59am
holy ****!!! AWESOME TARIC GUIDE! AP Carry Taric and Support Taric owns! Now My favourite support and support-carry is TARIC! <3,my second pvp match with AP Taric was 19/2/18 LOVE YOU!
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TheLegends1111 (5) | February 12, 2012 9:59am
Fy both *****es Taric is not a gay he is just...Fancy sexy man with gems and why his voice or jokes are gay?Only reason ppl call him gay is cuz of his armor of fifth age skin.Still Veigar has a gay flower skin and no one calles him gay.Just everyone STFU and GTFO TARIC IS HETEROSEXUAL.
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Kathorin (2) | February 11, 2012 1:35pm

I know im going to get hate for this, but Taric is a ***.


Why? He is!
His voice, his jokes, his costume..he's a *** and he loves it!
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TartanSpart4n (3) | February 10, 2012 2:11pm
I know im going to get hate for this, but Taric is a ***.
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Kathorin (2) | February 10, 2012 11:54am
This build is pretty good to play a support!
Resilient supports with aoe abilities equals awesome teamfights.

But instead of a fearie charm, i start with a mana manipulator, which i build into a soul shroud later (as 4th item). And instead of Randuins, i build my Heart of Gold into a Locket of Iron Solari. Another aura is better then more tankyness in my opinion.
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TheLegends1111 (5) | February 8, 2012 11:47am
Hi everyone i am a new here at MOBA :P Taneren maybe you remember me from youtube asked you for help cuz i couldnt log in after i veryfied.Anyway just gonna tell you that your build is just.... AWESOMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE thats insane all from me :X
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Quenthal | February 8, 2012 11:24am
Ain't no Graves, that can hold my Taric down.

Found a song for Graves for ya :)
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balfour | February 7, 2012 10:20pm
Bro, thanks for a godlike guide.. I play tarric support your way.. I haven't lost in the last 4-7 games usually ending with 1/4/36.... It's baaaad ***s.. I love it ..

Time to do ranked .. Bring it on
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Taneren (177) | February 7, 2012 1:55pm
wiezel wrote:

Hi,

solong a good universal guide about Taric. I played Taric in most of my games and just wanted to check how other players play him.
After Riot changed few summoner spells, my playstyle on Taric changed aswell. I'm playing him as Tank/Support on bottom lane. Instead of CV/Flash i use CV/Heal and focus on armor runes and 9 point defensive mastery.
Red/Quints: flat armor, seals: manareg. per lvl, blue: magicres. per lvl.
WIth doubleheal (imbue/heal) it's pretty hard to be killed and u can stay a long whilen under pressure.
With a focus on defense u can better outlane your apponents and give your carry easy time on farming. If they try to kill you, just stun back off and let ur carry attack them. If they try to get your carry, just block/stun them and back of or kill them. Most of the time you will be running with a 1/2 or 3/4 of your health and most of the players gonna try to focus on you and not your carry with full healthbar
My playstyle is more of a bodyguard for the carry and it works well with a solid partne.

Its funny that you mention it. As I recently myself started playing with CV/Heal. As well as defensive masteries + Armor marks.
Imbue vs Shatter - Depends on what you meet in the lane. Armor or heal. Your playstyle is viable and can be recommended.

I have intentions of changing my guide to your style - But truth be told, this guide is ment to be a bit 'noob friendly' which means that people who are unfamiliar with Taric will look up my guide. Not the pro's :) So flash is a nice help to the new taric players.

Anyways TL:DR, What you are describing is how I have intentions of changing my guide, because it fits a support perfectly.

The reason I took AP is because I often play an aggressive lane, Taric is extremly dominant early game and is supposed to get your carry a few kills, which explains the AP quints.
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Soepstengel | February 4, 2012 1:46pm
Try laning a tank/support Taric with Dr. Mundo, it's friggin hilarious
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smiLiwaT (25) | February 3, 2012 1:25pm
Taric - Best male suppoer EU <3
I were curiose about jungle taric + doh
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wiezel | January 31, 2012 3:17am
Hi,

solong a good universal guide about Taric. I played Taric in most of my games and just wanted to check how other players play him.
After Riot changed few summoner spells, my playstyle on Taric changed aswell. I'm playing him as Tank/Support on bottom lane. Instead of CV/Flash i use CV/Heal and focus on armor runes and 9 point defensive mastery.
Red/Quints: flat armor, seals: manareg. per lvl, blue: magicres. per lvl.
WIth doubleheal (imbue/heal) it's pretty hard to be killed and u can stay a long whilen under pressure.
With a focus on defense u can better outlane your apponents and give your carry easy time on farming. If they try to kill you, just stun back off and let ur carry attack them. If they try to get your carry, just block/stun them and back of or kill them. Most of the time you will be running with a 1/2 or 3/4 of your health and most of the players gonna try to focus on you and not your carry with full healthbar
My playstyle is more of a bodyguard for the carry and it works well with a solid partne.
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Taneren (177) | January 29, 2012 8:20am
@mrloneowlfer
Mejai is a waste of gold. Not even worth discussing ^^

Chalice can be used but is a ego. based item, you need items that support your team - Not yourself.
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Taneren (177) | January 29, 2012 8:20am
@mrloneowlfer
Mejai is a waste of gold. Not even worth discussing ^^

Chalice can be used but is a ego. based item, you need items that support your team - Not yourself.
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mrlonewolfer (3) | January 29, 2012 3:57am
hmmmmmmmmmm
ever thought of mejais or chalice of harmony?
both look pretty good on taric
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Taneren (177) | January 29, 2012 2:17am

Have tried two of yours builds, one of which(Ap-Carry) had hilarious results every time I play it. Match starts with my teamates raging....then other team trolling me with comments....then silence. By mid game to late I can jump into a team fight being ignored because Im supposedly just a support then with just two attacks I melt anyone in the area.

I play with family so this also lead us to try other odd combos like taric/soraka - non support laning to the same results. Fantastic guide. I keep armor seals thats about the only difference with setup so that I only need to build magic resist which is on alot of the prefered items anyway.


Haha I'm glad to know ^^ This is exactly what I experienced - Team mates and enemy team trollin' until you dominates the game.
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OrdermusPrime | January 28, 2012 7:31pm
Have tried two of yours builds, one of which(Ap-Carry) had hilarious results every time I play it. Match starts with my teamates raging....then other team trolling me with comments....then silence. By mid game to late I can jump into a team fight being ignored because Im supposedly just a support then with just two attacks I melt anyone in the area.

I play with family so this also lead us to try other odd combos like taric/soraka - non support laning to the same results. Fantastic guide. I keep armor seals thats about the only difference with setup so that I only need to build magic resist which is on alot of the prefered items anyway.
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Taneren (177) | January 25, 2012 8:10am
@Exdruid

Haha, glad to hear it worked ^^ I'm not a fan of AD-Lane-Taric myself, but it works for some people :D Gj!
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Exdruid | January 25, 2012 7:58am
I love your AD taric, I just went 9/2 with a wukong in my lane. We were against Trynd and Mundo and we ROCKED. Thanks for the build, I've been looking for a good AD Taric guide, I've tried crit chance and that didn't work but this is ingenious. Thanks again, great job!
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Taneren (177) | January 22, 2012 9:12am
Hello, sorry that I haven't responded you all but I've been sort of busy lately.

@Albableat

Awesome, I'm glad to see it works.

@Darterr
It is viable but it isn't really support ^^ You're closer to being a mage :)

@8hundred

Thanks :D Good to know you can use it.

@Diegotonn, Wicked sick :D

@Countallister

I'm talking about this in my optional rune choices, true it functions really good.

@TheMysterieZ
I don't know ^^ Check it in your match, haven't payed attention to it :)

@Capn_Evan.

Hmm you're going into the lane, I'm not a fan of AD-lane Taric but your build is really good, i've been a fan of trinity force myself lately.

@Shadowcrusnik
Thanks! xD

@Azukitty
I will PM you in a minute.

@Atrox

Non-stop winning all the way!

@Nyyzfqs
Thanks.


I do not suppose you all could do me a favor and check out my new Anivia guide?

http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/anivia-in-depth-mizore-v2-173059
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nyyzfqs (3) | January 21, 2012 3:54pm
Like the first one most, effective
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Atrox | January 19, 2012 8:26pm

All these games were played as support. Ruby for vigor!
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AzuKitty | January 17, 2012 3:46pm
Absolutely loved this guide. I wanted to try out jungling, so I was looking last week for a champion to practice with. I love supports, so I decided to look up Taric- to my great pleasure you had a jungling guide for him!

Week was full of "Taric jungling lol whut?" but I managed to keep with my team every match (once I got the hang of the route and stopped forgetting to use my Health Potions). I enjoyed it thoroughly and I think this guide is extremely well written.

However, I have had one question CONSTANTLY. I'm a beginner to jungling so don't eat me for stupidity if you would be so kind. c':
Once you've gone through the different creeps and ganked the first time...do you just start right over again? Or go into the enemies's camp and munch on theirs? (I was fortunate to never encounter any enemy junglers. In fact, no one really ever paid attention to me...)

I ended up just kind of wandering and trying to take out what ones I could while going back for items every so often. The later phase was when I started to get behind, but I think that was just because I didn't gank enough. ^^; That being said, I never really got the hang of warding either. It seems to take a lot of time that could be used gaining experience, especially considering all of the times no one touched me and it would have been a waste.
Do you just ward the buffs when you take them or do them beforehand?
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Shadowcrusnik | January 16, 2012 11:25am
I LOVE TARIC! and this guide is great. im not a pro or anything but what i do know is that your guide, its pwns face.
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Capn_Evan (11) | January 13, 2012 11:44pm
Hi! nice guide, I've been working on AD Taric myself lately, and he is an absolute powerhouse with it, and is still able to support like a boss.

Items: Doran's Blade > Mercury's Treads > Aegis of the legion > Frozen mallet > Frozen Heart > Trinity Force > Atma's Impaler

Okay, so maybe you won't finish the build very often, but it's quite useful even though you don't. And if you do, you'll become a great threat to the enemy team, more so than any AP Taric I've ever seen.

Try it out please, and give response? :)
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theMysterieZ (7) | January 13, 2012 10:00am
Nice Guide.
But one Question:When I play as a magician and i get the bonus ability power from Tarics Ulti,does it gives me more when i have Rabadons?I mean does Rabadons only functions with my own AP?
It would be nice when Someone would answer me.

P.S:Nice guide after all.
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CountAllister (1) | January 12, 2012 4:33pm
in reference to the support build:

might I reccomend gold per second quints over the hp? I find it yields me more potential wards or accelerates my build, which is usually tanky lategame, or when I finally upgrade to randuins or reverie, the gold flow keeps coming regardless.

I see how hp maybe better earlygame but with taric you shouldnt be hit much earlygame since you're supporting
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Diegotonnn | January 11, 2012 10:53am
hallo my friend! :D
i love ur guide ! its awesome! :P
thumbs up (y)
here a pic with my score with AP Taric :P
TARIC AP CARRY xD
greetings from Argentina =P
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8Hundred | January 10, 2012 2:17am
Tried your support and Tank builds now. Excellent build, with support i always get 20+ Assists, and in a tank game i only just did i got 0/5/32. Love it. <3
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Darterr (1) | January 9, 2012 3:06pm
and I will try that rabadons its just not very useful for me because of how squishy I am without either the armor bonus from the Zhonya's Hourglass or the Magic Resist from the Abyssal Scepter is the main reason.
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Darterr (1) | January 9, 2012 3:03pm
Taneren wrote:


Well, to be honest I'm a bit confused about your question here. To me it seems like you're trying to build AP-Taric, when talking about playing him as a support?

Anyways, if your build is AP-based it is really good, and looks like something I could use myself once in a while.

The build you are talking about is viable, and can be used but I would suggest for you to switch one of them with Rabadon's Deathcap for the damage. Anyways as a lst optional item, you should base it on the enemy team.

Warmog's Armor You would need to get this early game, you need stacks with it. But the problem here is, that if you roll support - Where will you get the minions to stack it up with, do you want to steal minions from your carries? Not viable acording to me.

Force of Nature is good, if the team got a good amount of AP-Carries and are lacking CC's then pick it, elsewhy you should roll with Banshee's Veil as last time.

If I did not answer your question correctly, retype it, and I will try to do my best to answer it - as I quite frankly didn't understand the question 100%.

-Taneren.

Well How I run Support Taric your right is more like an AP Carry Taric, but its more of just the early game when I need the AP is when all my damage is there then the AP the rest of the game is just for to deal a bit of damage then go for heals or blow my zhoya's hourglass to stay put then be able to get away and never run out of mana because of how I use my summoner spells of clarity and ignite so I have a crazy overpowered early game while my late game is all about the heals stuns and making sure my damage is just strong enough that I can get half of the health while my teammates can finish the job is all I'm really am doing with this build because here is a link of one of my latest games as taric. I was just asking more of which do you think it is a good idea or just try more Support style taric build to see how I do with it? was more of what I was asking I just said it incorrectly. And sorry for taking so much room up on the screen.
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albableat (147) | January 8, 2012 6:08pm
Works ;)
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albableat (147) | January 4, 2012 4:49pm
Quoted:
she can BE difficult to stun thanks to Rocket Jump


Missing a little verb. Just noticed accidentially.
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albableat (147) | January 4, 2012 4:42pm
I made sure to +1 this!

First of all, I played Taric only twice or so, but this guide was a page that I opened when I was dealt to play him when I was AFK during champion selection =P Build itself worked perfectly.

Next, the explanations of behaviour appropriate for support helped a lot while playing different support characters.

And finally, your countering section with these awesome songs is extremely hilarious ;)


P.S. LeBlanc's song title means "you are a jerk" or something of that sort...
(Pardon me, my french friends, if I'm wrong :D)
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Taneren (177) | January 4, 2012 7:01am

As you said: "I can see a lot of time went into this :D"

Indeed xD Thank you for the vote :)
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Hikaru Himeri (4) | January 4, 2012 4:36am
As you said: "I can see a lot of time went into this :D"

I read it whole, some part about Supporting and Jungling are useful for me :)

For sure +1 ;)
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Taneren (177) | January 2, 2012 11:38am
Dantes wrote:

I've been doing really well and received alot of positive feedback from my ad carries after trying Taric with your build :D +1 and Taric is now one of my favorite champs!

but regarding jungle Taric. While Tarics strikes me as a surprisingly good jungler it also seems to me that with his passive he has no mana problems what so ever (especially if you grab blue buff for yourself) so manamune seems a bit unnescessary to me. I tried to ad a sheen into triforce instead and I liked the additional boost to dmg (building atmogs instead of FM) :)

Really nice guide btw!

If you grab blue yourself manamune is just a waste true, but I personally find it VERY important to hand out blue buff to your mid lane in a very early level and feel the need for manamune ^^ Anyways I sometimes use Triforce myself as it fits Taric very good and I have intentions of adding it when I update my guide again (Got a few things I need to fix mostly the layout)

Anyways I'm glad to know that you liked it and thank you for the vote :) Means a lot to me with the positive feedback.
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Dantes (1) | January 2, 2012 9:07am
I've been doing really well and received alot of positive feedback from my ad carries after trying Taric with your build :D +1 and Taric is now one of my favorite champs!

but regarding jungle Taric. While Tarics strikes me as a surprisingly good jungler it also seems to me that with his passive he has no mana problems what so ever (especially if you grab blue buff for yourself) so manamune seems a bit unnescessary to me. I tried to ad a sheen into triforce instead and I liked the additional boost to dmg (building atmogs instead of FM) :)

Really nice guide btw!
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Taneren (177) | December 31, 2011 4:20am
deng wrote:

I'm gonna try that jungle Taric, it's inevitable.

Lol.. Oh yeah, you're that Miss Fortune riiite? ^.-' Good luck :p Inform me on how it goes.
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Taneren (177) | December 31, 2011 4:19am
Vectos wrote:

Oops, forgot to upvote. But the reason why I'm running out of mana is probably because I'm used to playing manaless champs. Skill spam was an art I perfected. Switching to mana is a drag, but to dominate bottom, there arn't any great manaless supports.

Thanks for the vote, keep me updated on how it goes ^^
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Taneren (177) | December 31, 2011 4:19am
koksei wrote:

YOU TRYIN TO MESS WITH ME??????????



that's cuz didn't know me by then I guess :3 :d

otherwise an awesome guide just like the other one :)
+1

That was sort of.. Before I started playing with you as Lux xD
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deng | December 31, 2011 3:57am
I'm gonna try that jungle Taric, it's inevitable.
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koksei (162) | December 30, 2011 6:47pm
YOU TRYIN TO MESS WITH ME??????????
Taneren wrote:

Lux

D'aww, Lux <'3, I love playing on a lane with Lux when I'm going AD-Carry. She is a good partner, but there exist better. Lux got CC with Light Binding and slow through Lucent Singularity, that is really it about her. If you play smart enough, she won't get to hit you, since she is 100% skill-shot based and her shield Prismatic Barrier won't do much, you hit right through it. I love playing with her myself, but on the other hand.. I also love meeting her, she's very easy to counter.



that's cuz didn't know me by then I guess :3 :d

otherwise an awesome guide just like the other one :)
+1
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Vectos (1) | December 30, 2011 6:21pm
Oops, forgot to upvote. But the reason why I'm running out of mana is probably because I'm used to playing manaless champs. Skill spam was an art I perfected. Switching to mana is a drag, but to dominate bottom, there arn't any great manaless supports.
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Taneren (177) | December 30, 2011 6:15pm
Hmm okay thats strange. If it continues I recommend for you to buy mana regen in both seals and glyphs. (Might sound silly, but Glyphs are currently the best runes when it comes to mana regen for supports, since there are better picks in seals - Armor etc.)

Anyways what server are you on? Maybe we could take a game, or you could give me a link of you playing Taric with wonders on why you are ooming so quickly? Maybe I could add a tip or two ^^

It could mean a lot to me if you could vote this guide.

I won't respond before tommorow (Going to bed).
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Vectos (1) | December 30, 2011 6:13pm
I'm level 25. As far as runes, I'm using what you recommended. Except for a few that I had to use old tier 2s for. The mana regen seals are tier 3 though.
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Taneren (177) | December 30, 2011 6:05pm
Vectos wrote:

Alright, I've played a few rounds with taric and hes pretty fun to play. My only beef with him is that I run out of mana FAST. If I try to keep the heals on like a Sorka, I'll have no mana whatsoever. I'm following your build and using clarity and he still leave me manaless after just a few casts of heal and stuns. Chomping on minions with his passive doesn't really help that much either, its not nearly enough regen to use his skills.

Mind telling me your runes?

Spamming heal is a bad idea and ooms you quickly.

The problem is that people tend to spam their abilities and oom rather quickly, I often experience it myself when I get a bad laning partner that manages to get harrased every second. There is no way for you to keep healing your teammate Support or AP doesn't matter it will oom you in time, you're not Sorakayou cannot get back mana the same way as she does, which is why I love to lane with characters that got lifesteal or spell vamp (Cho'gath is good too) they will in time get their health up again and you can focus on using your mana to harass.

TL:DR

Stop spamming your abilities and attempt to get a decent partner that either trades health for health or knows how to avoid getting harassed 24/7.

Mind telling me your masteries, runes, build and Summoner level? ^^
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Vectos (1) | December 30, 2011 6:01pm
Alright, I've played a few rounds with taric and hes pretty fun to play. My only beef with him is that I run out of mana FAST. If I try to keep the heals on like a Sorka, I'll have no mana whatsoever. I'm following your build and using clarity and he still leave me manaless after just a few casts of heal and stuns. Chomping on minions with his passive doesn't really help that much either, its not nearly enough regen to use his skills.
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Taneren (177) | December 30, 2011 3:00pm
Nighthawk wrote:



Well maybe he is since the rework (since I haven't seen him a lot) but in all honesty supports aren't that great in 3 v 3 anyways, and if I wanted a supporty character I would much rather have Blitz or Rammus.

Not playing him as a support in 3v3. I start of with Doran's ring. I only buy wards once in a while, I feel like an AP-carry with my damage + Cho's. Its sure kill lvl 2-3
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Nighthawk (674) | December 30, 2011 2:54pm
Taneren wrote:


Taric is above average acording to me in 3v3 ^^


Well maybe he is since the rework (since I haven't seen him a lot) but in all honesty supports aren't that great in 3 v 3 anyways, and if I wanted a supporty character I would much rather have Blitz or Rammus.
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Taneren (177) | December 30, 2011 2:24pm
Nighthawk wrote:

Taric is just not that great on 3 v 3, Vectos. :(

For an unstoppable bot lane you might want to go with GP + Blitz.

Taric is above average acording to me in 3v3 ^^
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Taneren (177) | December 30, 2011 2:14pm
Vectos wrote:

I've been poking around for a unstoppable lane combo bot lane 3vs3 lately. I have an amazing solo top friend but he just needs a reliable lane combo bot. While searching for a lane combo, Taric's name popped up everywhere. So, curious as to why this was, I searched for the top mobafire guide. I was brought to yours. I'd probably give your guide a 10/10 after just reading half way through, there is just so much great information! Its so thorough, I'm sure even the most skill hardened Taric players would learn a great deal from reading this guide. So, for my next question, what would you consider to be the best possible lane combo bottom lane to your knowledge? Would it even include Taric for that matter?

The friend I'm probably going to end up laning with does enjoy dps carry champs and is really considering purchasing Caitlyn. He also owns Cho Gath but I don't think he enjoys playing AP casters, or even tanks. If Cho is part of that combo though, I'll have to make him play. >:F

Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read this post. Hopefully I'll be able to troll 3vs3 matches real soon. =P

Taric in 3v3 is great. I played a specific combo and I haven't lost with it yet in ranked (Not that I played it in ranked much)

Cho'gath + AP-Taric and an AD carry top is often a free win unless the enemy team is morgana/gp/irelia.

Taric is very strong with a lot of combos due to his stun. Check my partners section where I point out casters AP, AD and Support etc.

I hope this helped you ^^
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Nighthawk (674) | December 30, 2011 1:26pm
Taric is just not that great on 3 v 3, Vectos. :(

For an unstoppable bot lane you might want to go with GP + Blitz.
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Vectos (1) | December 30, 2011 1:22pm
I've been poking around for a unstoppable lane combo bot lane 3vs3 lately. I have an amazing solo top friend but he just needs a reliable lane combo bot. While searching for a lane combo, Taric's name popped up everywhere. So, curious as to why this was, I searched for the top mobafire guide. I was brought to yours. I'd probably give your guide a 10/10 after just reading half way through, there is just so much great information! Its so thorough, I'm sure even the most skill hardened Taric players would learn a great deal from reading this guide. So, for my next question, what would you consider to be the best possible lane combo bottom lane to your knowledge? Would it even include Taric for that matter?

The friend I'm probably going to end up laning with does enjoy dps carry champs and is really considering purchasing Caitlyn. He also owns Cho Gath but I don't think he enjoys playing AP casters, or even tanks. If Cho is part of that combo though, I'll have to make him play. >:F

Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read this post. Hopefully I'll be able to troll 3vs3 matches real soon. =P
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Taneren (177) | December 29, 2011 9:14am

Hi I usually play as a taric support and I have some advices...

First of all about the runes. I think the 1.5% speed and the mana regen runes are core runes for a support, but I think that you can go for more tanky support and change the AP for Magic resistance glyphs cause taric will get armor from his W but not MR and you don't buy items in early game for MR.
I don't agree with the dead spent masteries cause I usually don't die with taric but you need the mana regen more. And if you choose the mana regen you don't need 2points on the +x gold start so you can put it on speed and more xp masteries.
Another one usually i build Shurelya before Aegis cause it can save lives or take them.

Thank you for the feedback but the reason I pick Ability power is to have some damage in the laning phase and make people fear you. They might not fear you as much if they know a simple stun wont hurt them at all.

MR is viable too.

I recently began buyinG Shurelya before Aegis myself and will probally push it before Aegis in the build.

Thank you for the feedback, it would mean a lot to me if you could vote too.
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Being Delicious | December 29, 2011 3:03am
Hi I usually play as a taric support and I have some advices...

First of all about the runes. I think the 1.5% speed and the mana regen runes are core runes for a support, but I think that you can go for more tanky support and change the AP for Magic resistance glyphs cause taric will get armor from his W but not MR and you don't buy items in early game for MR.
I don't agree with the dead spent masteries cause I usually don't die with taric but you need the mana regen more. And if you choose the mana regen you don't need 2points on the +x gold start so you can put it on speed and more xp masteries.
Another one usually i build Shurelya before Aegis cause it can save lives or take them.
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Taneren (177) | December 27, 2011 12:15pm

Great guide! It encompasses a lot of different taric builds, but what do you think of this one? http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/the-experimental-synergy-build-135543 (P.S this is not a promotional use of a guide- this is a build, and I would be more than happy to see it on your guide to prove it's viability.)

Check your guide for Response.
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Phoenix General | December 27, 2011 11:56am
Great guide! It encompasses a lot of different taric builds, but what do you think of this one? http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/the-experimental-synergy-build-135543 (P.S this is not a promotional use of a guide- this is a build, and I would be more than happy to see it on your guide to prove it's viability.)
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Taneren (177) | December 27, 2011 9:53am
Deylar419 wrote:

I just want to say Great guide. I really love the support role and was considering Taric as my next buy, I'm pretty much convinced I'm going to like him.

I bet you're gonna love it :D He is super fun to play, and you will feel great when zoning 2 people alone by scaring them with Dazzle.

Remember to vote if you haven't already, thank you ^^
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Deylar419 (1) | December 27, 2011 9:51am
I just want to say Great guide. I really love the support role and was considering Taric as my next buy, I'm pretty much convinced I'm going to like him.
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Taneren (177) | December 23, 2011 5:07am
EdSterling wrote:

Man, this build kick ***es! I just tried it two times and see my results:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/28212741.png/

Now my friends and me have a support for our ranked team!

Nice, glad to see that it worked :D Send me in the pictures if it goes good in ranked.

-Taneren.
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EdSterling | December 23, 2011 1:40am
Man, this build kick ***es! I just tried it two times and see my results:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/444/28212741.png/

Now my friends and me have a support for our ranked team!
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Taneren (177) | December 22, 2011 2:55pm
Darterr wrote:

Hey Taneren I have a question about Support Taric I have read all that you have said about it and I main Support Taric so here is the question.
What do you think of a build of Rylai's Crystal Scepter Sorcerer's Shoes Zhonya's Hourglass Abyssal Scepter Morello's Evil Tome and last an optional item of Warmog's Armor, Force of Nature, or Banshee's Veil what do you think about the build since it has both Damage and Support while having good health and armor and magic resist.

Well, to be honest I'm a bit confused about your question here. To me it seems like you're trying to build AP-Taric, when talking about playing him as a support?

Anyways, if your build is AP-based it is really good, and looks like something I could use myself once in a while.

The build you are talking about is viable, and can be used but I would suggest for you to switch one of them with Rabadon's Deathcap for the damage. Anyways as a lst optional item, you should base it on the enemy team.

Warmog's Armor You would need to get this early game, you need stacks with it. But the problem here is, that if you roll support - Where will you get the minions to stack it up with, do you want to steal minions from your carries? Not viable acording to me.

Force of Nature is good, if the team got a good amount of AP-Carries and are lacking CC's then pick it, elsewhy you should roll with Banshee's Veil as last time.

If I did not answer your question correctly, retype it, and I will try to do my best to answer it - as I quite frankly didn't understand the question 100%.

-Taneren.
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Darterr (1) | December 22, 2011 9:58am
Hey Taneren I have a question about Support Taric I have read all that you have said about it and I main Support Taric so here is the question.
What do you think of a build of Rylai's Crystal Scepter Sorcerer's Shoes Zhonya's Hourglass Abyssal Scepter Morello's Evil Tome and last an optional item of Warmog's Armor, Force of Nature, or Banshee's Veil what do you think about the build since it has both Damage and Support while having good health and armor and magic resist.
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Taneren (177) | December 21, 2011 8:14am
You're welcome.
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iggi (7) | December 21, 2011 7:25am
Very nice guide and thorough. I realy don't enjoy playing taric, I prefer other supports, but I may give him a try after all.
From what I see in your guide, I can take many good ideas to improve my blitz guide!
thx again
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Taneren (177) | December 20, 2011 2:40am
haltonia wrote:

I liked this because after playing AP taric i felt that i was god.

Best feeling ever, when AP-Taric wrecks people that underrates him xD
I once turned a gank around, when Shaco ganked me on mid. I took Shaco and got Kennen to 40% then got away.

I LOVE The high burst he does, sometimes I feel like an adult and manly version of Annie with her burst.
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Taneren (177) | December 20, 2011 2:38am
Matake wrote:

First off, I suck with Taric. I can't do the support role with but so I tried the Jungle/AD build. I was surprised that Taric can jungle so efficiently. My problem with your build is where's the magic resist? I feel grabbing Force of Nature or anything with magic resist over Randuin's is a better choice. Frozen Mallet already gives you a nice slow, so why keep Randuin's? HoG is still a good choice early; I just sold mine late game for FoN.

I know that you lack magic resist, been thinking through it myself.

I am in doubt, I feel like dropping Atma's Impaler and buy Force of Nature before Randuin's Omen, but that would make his damage low.

So here is what you should do:
  • Pick depending on their team combo
  • If the enemy team has a fed AP carry or 2-3 AP carries, I suggest going with Force of Nature.
  • If the enemy team is very heavy on AD Characters you should get both Randuin's Omen and Atma's Impaler, pick depending on the situation. You shouldn't always follow the primary build :) Build depending on the situation. -- What I like about Randuin's Omen isthe all around slow it grants, and Cooldown reduction. True that Frozen Malletgot a slow too, but it isn't always enough, and Randuin's Omen doesn't affect just one target, but AoE.
  • My tip to you : Build depending on the enemy team, not 100% by the way I use my primary build. But I'm actually glad that you pointed out Force of Nature since it's a really good item, that I forgot all about!

-Taneren.
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haltonia | December 19, 2011 5:56pm
I liked this because after playing AP taric i felt that i was god.
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Matake (1) | December 19, 2011 5:33pm
First off, I suck with Taric. I can't do the support role with but so I tried the Jungle/AD build. I was surprised that Taric can jungle so efficiently. My problem with your build is where's the magic resist? I feel grabbing Force of Nature or anything with magic resist over Randuin's is a better choice. Frozen Mallet already gives you a nice slow, so why keep Randuin's? HoG is still a good choice early; I just sold mine late game for FoN.
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Taneren (177) | December 19, 2011 12:31am
They are good, yeah. It all depends on the combo, Banshee vs heavy AP team and Frozen heart against melee/AD teams. Rest should be free for wards.

Thank you for the +1 :D
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mastajdog (77) | December 18, 2011 7:12pm
Frozen heart and Randuin's are imo, some of the best items for a tank/support. great job, and +1
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Taneren (177) | December 16, 2011 4:12pm
Thank you, but I'm not sure how to make the Pros/Cons section more smooth, maybe if you could give me a few good tips / coding?

I won't change the part about Smite. I always found it silly to bring smite on a lane, jungler or not - You are 99% sure of getting trashed if going on the lane with smite. You waste a precious summoner spell by taking Smite with you into the lane.

Hmm, when I get time I will try to colour a few of my icons. Thank you for the tip, but I feel like adding too many colours will be a overkill, trying to keep balance.

Anyways, I will be adding a few more colors, I know how much it does when there are colors in a guide.

Currently busy on another guide, and using a lot of time on it so I'm also very focused on that lately, might first get to the changes in a few days (due to RL (Exams :/) and this other guide I'm working hard on ^^).

Anyways thank you for the constructive criticism, I will be sure to +rep you.

-Taneren.
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Icuonuez (36) | December 16, 2011 9:11am
Constructive Criticism:
  • Your Pros/Cons should be columned for easy comparison.
  • In your spells, you state only to grab smite if you are jungling. What if you don't have a jungler? Smite could be used to secure Baron, Dragon, or Blue Buff. You should give Smite a little more credit where it's due.
  • You can use color with your icons. I.E. Taric or Yordle Snap Trap. This isn't necessary, but will make your guide a bit easier to read.



The guide itself is very well-done. It's missing a bit of format, but you give so much information. Do note that I only reviewed the first guide. +1
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Taneren (177) | December 15, 2011 1:55pm
Haha thanks xDD
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C4k3CooKieZ (18) | December 15, 2011 1:22pm
Legit because I said so!!!
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Taneren (177) | December 14, 2011 1:53pm
Oh - If you get a decent amount of farm and kills you will have a burst higher than Annie (Trust me -_- It is REALLY high for a support character. They even buffed his AP ratios recently and I got 6-3-1X in a 20min game). If you play this off perfectly people will tell you how amazed they are of it going succesfull (why I love strange builds when they go succesfull <3 people having fun watching such works(.
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Taneren (177) | December 14, 2011 1:52pm
Well, you could of course throw Deathfire first. But keep in mind, that this will result for them to pull back. And to me it will seem like a waste. The cooldown is too long to waste on that ability only.

If you get Dazzle in first, you are SURE to get in your full combo or make them waste a flash. Keep in mind before trying out the build and while trying, that if you meet a very skilled AP caster Taric can be screwed. (Leblanc and Karthus Q.Q).

What you want to do when using Deathfire combo is get them down on around 70% hp.
Then the kill is secured tbh. If they are below 70% and Dazzle is on them, and you're within range for both Shatter and Radiance the kill is secured. People are not aware of the damage output you have.

So what if its not used at max. hp? It is where it remains the strongest but not where you HAVE to use it.

If you camp in a bush and can get to throw Deathfire before Dazzle before they get to escape then do it. But if you start off with deathfire you often won't get to reach with Dazzle before they pulled to far away.

-Taneren. I hope this helped you, if you need me to expain this in another way, tell me and I will try to explain it in another way.
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Ill Tank | December 14, 2011 12:05pm
love the depth of the build but, in the ap section of the build. shouldnt you cast deathfire before dazzle (when deathfire hits them they will almost be immediately stunned after) and do a little bit more damage. I first thought taric was only reliable to be tanky support i wont thumps up or down till i try it.
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Taneren (177) | December 14, 2011 5:01am
Thank you for the positive comment and the vote. 5-0 in w/l or k/d?
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Crystok (1) | December 13, 2011 4:52pm
Hey great guide!! I recently wanted to start playing Taric in ranked games and try out support so I did. All time with Taric so far I am 5-0 and the build is working fantastic. Keep it up! +1
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Taneren (177) | December 9, 2011 4:26am
Hehe, you're welcome :p I'm keeping updated on it often. (Wayyy too often :p)
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MancerNecro (1) | December 9, 2011 4:09am
Wow, you have like instant commenting, lol. Anyway, I'm about to add some pictures of Sona's skills and warding soon, cause I've been a little busy these past few weeks.
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MancerNecro (1) | December 9, 2011 4:07am
Done!
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Taneren (177) | December 9, 2011 3:58am
Under the name of the guide, in the right corner beside the voting % which is currently 91%, there should be a thumbs up, or a thumbs down click the one pointing up :D
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MancerNecro (1) | December 9, 2011 3:35am
+1

Nice guide Taneren. I'm only commenting/voting now because I haven't had a chance to try out the build yet, but after I have I find it great!

Also, I'm from the Sona guide you commented on waaaaay long ago, lol.

Ehhh... question: How to do the voting on here?
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Taneren (177) | December 7, 2011 10:25pm
SnowCherry wrote:

So detailed! Its me from the Caitlyn guide!
Hahaa finally had the time to read everything! might try Taric one day!
I think if you added more picts in between your words. it will be more tactful! :)
I love the part where you talked abt caitlyn"Use your brain versus Caitlyn you can beat her, but it is not easy. " I think My cait vs Your taric might be an interesting match up!
All that being said! good job! :)
It was a excellent read.
Peace +1 and rep too

SnowCherry :)

It is often an interesting match, I love playing Caitlyn myself, but really hate meeting her xD and thank you for the idea about more pictures inbetween, I will try to see if I can add a few and still keep it balanced.

-Taneren, +rep
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SnowCherry (29) | December 7, 2011 7:32pm
So detailed! Its me from the Caitlyn guide!
Hahaa finally had the time to read everything! might try Taric one day!
I think if you added more picts in between your words. it will be more tactful! :)
I love the part where you talked abt caitlyn"Use your brain versus Caitlyn you can beat her, but it is not easy. " I think My cait vs Your taric might be an interesting match up!
All that being said! good job! :)
It was a excellent read.
Peace +1 and rep too

SnowCherry :)
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Taneren (177) | December 7, 2011 11:46am
Yes, it was. I will get right to it! And finding such errors proves that you did use time on it, so I will be sure to +rep you for this.

Thank you for your time, would be awesome if you could leave a vote too :D

-Taneren.
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The_Nameless_Bard (604) | December 7, 2011 11:10am
All around a very good guide ^_^

I only found a few errors here and there:

Lux:
Exist is misspelled.

Karma:
"underrated" is one word

Nunu:
Blood Boil coding has an error

Sona:
I think you mean "Be aware of when she has Powerchord up"

Soraka:
"A lot" not "alot" and "otherwise" instead of "elsewhy"

Akali: "When akali gets spellvamp, then you will start to have problems"

Anivia:
Doran's Ring coding missing the apostrophe

Lux 2:
"depends on how sure you are about dodging her skill shots"

Morgana:
Ban not Bann

Ryze:
Mistake in the coding for Overload

Jungling:
Mistake in coding for long sword. Should be [icon=long sword size=50] or whatever

Hope this was helpful ^_^
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Taneren (177) | December 7, 2011 6:25am
Fair enough that you only talk about the first build, and was the only one you looked at, it is also the only one I recommend, and the other builds are for those who seek a challenge.

But quite frankly I find Chalice of Harmony a waste of money, but a decent Taric will in time figure out how not to go oom all the time. I find Chalice of Harmony to be a bit too selfish compared to the other items you can get.
It only aids yourself and no one else (Why I dislike it so much :p You need items as support to help the team) - Since you are the support you're supposed to aid the team with nice buffs, not items that buffs you only.

I know that Chalice of Harmony is a good item, but are you sure that you didn't get inspired from the old #1 guide that used to have it? (Sadly he removed the guide for some reason - But he actually ended up updating it and removed the Chalice as well, before closing it down)

I am aware that it increases the mana regen based on % missing, but I rather rush my Mercury's Treads and Aegis of the Legion. A teamfight often accours when I get/ are close to get my Aegis of the Legion and this item is needed in a team battle, to aid every single player on your team.

Lets look at it:

Chalice of Harmony 890g, Thats cheap which means it would be nice for a support, easy to get.

[*] Meki Pendant 390g
[*] Null-Magic Mantle 400g
[*] 100g to finish it.

7.5 mana reg. Perfect for Taric Aye!
+30 Magic resistance.. Meh, you are mostly at bot vs AD-Carry/Support, you need armor even though you have Shatter. Might be that the enemy AP character gets fed, but with a good team, that knows their focus, your Dazzle would be enough to counter him and let the team nuke him down.

Lets look at the passive:
Unique: Increases your mana regeneration by 1% per 1% mana you are missing.

Awesome, I like that. But when you played Taric for a while, you will learn to control your mana pool and hit the minions in a way that you won't last hit them, or push the lane aggressively.

Aegis of the Legion 1925g Ok, so yes. Expensive, might be bad but this would sadly be the item that Chalice of Harmony would replace if I had to add it. This item only looses on the gold cost, and magic resist.

Chalice of Harmony +30 Magic resist.
Aegis of the Legion +24 Magic resist. Not that big a difference.


[*] Ruby Crystal 475g
[*] Null-Magic Mantle 400g
[*] Cloth Armor 300g
And in last 750g

So expensive yes, but lets see what this item do for us, that makes me love it more than Chalice of Harmony

[*] +18 Armor! Not a lot, I know - But you are against an AD-Carry, so it's fine together with your Shatter.
[*] 270health, how much do Chalice have? None ;) Makes you more tanky.
[*] +24 Magic resist, only 6 less than Chalice. So it's not that bad.

Unique: Nearby allied champions gain +12 armor, +15 magic resist, and +8 attack damage. (1200 range) Makes every single player on your ******** team stronger in both armor, magic resist and attack damage!

In conclusion, Aegis of the Legion might be a bit more expensive and not grant as much mana regen. But it makes you more tanky, and it aids your whole team! As a Support is supposed to do :)

You're welcome to disagree with me, and remain with the mana solving problems from Chalice.

Keep in mind that you are the support, you need items that aids the TEAM not YOU.

I might reconsider my abilities, in what order I learn them. You're not the only one finding Imbue better to max first, so I will give it a few attempts and see if I find Imbue better to max than Shatter, what I like is that Shatter also grants damage to help you burst down the enemy when going in for the kill :) Depends on if you play aggressively or def, I guess? But you should ALWAYS take Dazzle first, it can save you or your teammate if you facecheck a brush, in a way that Imbue won't, or it can grant you a swift kill when the enemy does the facecheck.

-Taneren, Thank you for your time and the review, I will be sure to +rep you.
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Nighthawk (674) | December 6, 2011 3:27pm
Good guide but i'm not sure I like the skill order, I think maxing heal or at least taking heal early is better then getting points in W.

Def go Q > W > E imo although I can see the armor working well, I just think the heal is better.

I also suggest switching the ap glyphs for mregen/lvl and changing the seals to armor if you think you can do that (or potentially just keeping seals mregen/lvl)

Also Chalice is a pretty good item imo for him.

I also think with a lane like Sivir + Taric you might want to start MM > Soul Shroud and just play a sort of really really bulky aura taric.
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KiddWreck (1) | December 6, 2011 8:12am
Make an account for me and send me the file? lol j/k, but would've been cool to fight by you, maybe learn a thing or two :)
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Taneren (177) | December 6, 2011 7:25am
We are probally on different servers then, yes there are more than one. I have no idea of how many they use in US. But in Europe they got 2. EU-West, and EU-North. So I take it we are on different servers, sadly.
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KiddWreck (1) | December 6, 2011 7:18am
Taneren wrote:

By the way, what server are you on? Maybe I could come on my smurf account and we could play together? :p


I didn't even know they had different servers :P I just typed in League of Legends download and got what came up lol but I didn't have to choose any servers. I live in US if that helps any
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Taneren (177) | December 6, 2011 6:43am
By the way, what server are you on? Maybe I could come on my smurf account and we could play together? :p
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Taneren (177) | December 6, 2011 6:40am
KiddWreck wrote:

You just blew my mind with that whole breakdown haha, there's still alot I need to learn xD

You're very new to League of Legends, and only level 7. You blew my mind pulling off AP-Taric at that level.
GJ :p
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KiddWreck (1) | December 6, 2011 6:16am
You just blew my mind with that whole breakdown haha, there's still alot I need to learn xD
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Taneren (177) | December 6, 2011 5:40am
pochi wrote:

guide looks great. definitely going to try it out :)

Thanks :p GL trying it out.

-Taneren.
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Taneren (177) | December 6, 2011 5:33am
KiddWreck wrote:

That's a toughy, couldn't help you there for this will only be my second day on the game lol,
so I may not know much. But just by reading the stats, to me, it seems like if you don't mind
sacraficing a little bit of speed and AP, I would switch with Lich Bane. In all reality though, only thing you're not getting is the unique and magic resist because Rod of Ages unique will bring you up to match Lich Bane's AP. You'll have more health and mana, which to me seems like a plus, but hey what do I know? It's only my second day playing, i'm just rambling on :P

Lets look at it.

Rod of Ages, full stack.
It is one of the most common items for AP-Carries that need more sustain and often get mana-hungry. Good amount of health and mana, as well as ability power, so yeah it's a pretty good pick when stacked full up.

450 + 180 = 630 health
525 + 200 = 725 mana
60 + 20 = 80 ability power

Gold cost:
If you get it straight : 3035g.
Build it up:
[*] catalyst the Protector 1325g.
[*] Blasting Wand 860g.
[*] Rod of Ages 850g.

Compared to Lich Bane, it is actually cheapter since Lich Bane costs 3470g. BUT, the problem is I am in such a big rush to get Deathfire Grasp that I decide to jump it and continue my build, since Rod of Ages is best early game, to get stacked up. (Takes around 10minutes to stack it up, if you focus on it).


Lich Bane:
Lich bane is very good for Taric.

Taric's next physical attack after using an ability deals 100% of his Ability Power as physical damage. That's pretty good, when Taric is a melee hero.

+80 ability power, Same amount of ability power.
+30 magic resistance, Grants 30 magic resist.
+350 mana, Meh on this part Rod of Ages grants 725 mana.
+7% movement speed, is why I also love this item. I like to have a quick movement, easier to kite and get out of sticky chasing situations + get that Dazzle on the enemy. You need the speed to catch up on the fleeing enemy and Dazzle to pick up the kill with your teammates.

If you buy it directly: 3470g, a bit more expensive than Rod of Ages.
Build it up:
[*] Null-Magic Mantle 400g
[*] Sheen 1260g
[*] Blasting Wand 860g
[*] Lich Bane 950g

.. These are both good, and I consider picking up them both and replace it with Abyssal Scepter, but what I like so much about Taric is that he hands out so many buff's, making every player on the team 1.5man. So it's pretty good, + it grants ability power and magic resist + Reducing the enemies magic resist.

But well, I'm trying to figure out if I should replace Abyssal Scepter with Rod of Ages and where I should add Rod of Ages in the build.

-Taneren.
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KiddWreck (1) | December 6, 2011 2:18am
That's if you were talking about the AP build of course, don't know what items you may be talking about :P was just assuming haha
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KiddWreck (1) | December 6, 2011 2:11am
That's a toughy, couldn't help you there for this will only be my second day on the game lol,
so I may not know much. But just by reading the stats, to me, it seems like if you don't mind
sacraficing a little bit of speed and AP, I would switch with Lich Bane. In all reality though, only thing you're not getting is the unique and magic resist because Rod of Ages unique will bring you up to match Lich Bane's AP. You'll have more health and mana, which to me seems like a plus, but hey what do I know? It's only my second day playing, i'm just rambling on :P
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pochi | December 6, 2011 1:51am
guide looks great. definitely going to try it out :)
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Taneren (177) | December 6, 2011 1:48am
Haha thats pretty cool :p Compared to having AFK yi with a 0-7, Might only be level 7 without masteries and runes, but thats pretty impressive. Good job, keep it up :D
I like how you build rod of ages to make yourself more tanky, I tested it out myself and might replace one of my items with it. Just in doubt of which one.

-Taneren.
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KiddWreck (1) | December 6, 2011 1:41am
Taneren wrote:


Not bad :D What build did you use? And could you send a screenshot maybe? ^^


Here's a screenshot of one of the overview and grid of one of my matches. One of our team members ended up leaving so was 2 vs 3(still won xD). Hopefully it's some pretty good results and will be more to come :)
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Taneren (177) | December 5, 2011 1:47pm
Awesome :p try out AP-Taric / Cho'gath AP with an AD carry like Noc top.
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KiddWreck (1) | December 5, 2011 1:31pm
Will do :)
Been getting it in with my friend in 3v3, current win/lose is 4/1
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Taneren (177) | December 5, 2011 1:11pm
Yeah, I might make a section with people getting good scores :p Just need pictures first ^^

W/e you have to give me :D
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KiddWreck (1) | December 5, 2011 1:03pm
Taneren wrote:


Not bad :D What build did you use? And could you send a screenshot maybe? ^^


I'm using the AP carry build. And sure I wouldn't mind, you want of the end results?
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Taneren (177) | December 5, 2011 12:23pm
KiddWreck wrote:

Awesome build...Enough said. First time playing today, just bought Taric and haven't regretted it yet. Matches end quick, went 9/0/5 first match and haven't lost a match yet.

Not bad :D What build did you use? And could you send a screenshot maybe? ^^
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KiddWreck (1) | December 5, 2011 12:14pm
Awesome build...Enough said. First time playing today, just bought Taric and haven't regretted it yet. Matches end quick, went 9/0/5 first match and haven't lost a match yet.
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Taneren (177) | December 5, 2011 11:32am
Sorta :p Low elo is where you can do the craziest things and get away with it <3
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Popeyez (9) | December 5, 2011 11:28am
Thanks for the +rep! Im glad to see you agree with me on the part of the ap and ad taric :p however I admire you actually did a ranked with taric as ap carry xD Your team must have hated you, and said sorry in the end, that must feel nice =D
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Taneren (177) | December 5, 2011 11:24am
Popeyez wrote:

Hey Hey!

My review as i promised!

Credits:
- Great in depth guide! I seldomly see them this much indepth, and inlenght xD
- Good items and even more important, good explanation of it
- Explaining laning tactics well with taric, especially great ideas on how to lane with who, and to pay attention on what with wich enemies.
- Good to pick up warding places in your guide, every support guide should have it, since its a important task from the support.

Constructive critism:
- However I admire you trying out tarid AD carry AP carry and jungle, in my opinion its just not where taric shines. If i must chose between having a brand mid or a taric, its brand over taric 100% of the time, unles i know brand is going afk. This is not becouse taric player lacks skill, but becouse taric cannot match up to brand in the AP carry role. Low ap ratios, not enough burst, not enough aoe. Its just not gonna work. Same goes for AD carry taric, you just cant compare it to for example tryndamere. It just can't. However that is MY opinion, i know taric could be mid, could be jungle, could be the ad carry but he simply isnt the best, and in LoL its al about utilysing your characters abilities.
- Ever laned bottemlane with swain? Swain gives insane burst dmge, and if you stun someone, swain has time to land nevermore, gives you a long stun, followed by a long snare, followed by a long slow, this means instand death, since swain has nuking potentional from off lvl 6. (had enough cases where one came back from base just to go back to base again cuz i nuked him) Anyways try to lane with one, its worth your time.

I think this guide looks really solid, it has alot of text wich makes peeps who are not so interested in supports skip a part, but they should read it though, its worth it. Definetly a +1 from me.

And I am sorry, but I dont play supports mostly so a full support player would maybe point out a few more things for you, but from what i know from taric and his role, you quite aced the Support part. Looking forward to see ya in a game!

GL

Thank you for your time and the review, I'm gonna +rep you for using your time on my guide.

Anyways, of course there are more viable picks when it comes to AP and Jungle :p I even point out in the start of my jungle section that there excist better junglers. But besides that, I do it for fun, and I bet that people who like a challenge will take up mine, and try out both AD and AP Taric.

Low ap ratios, true. Even tho' they buffed him there still excist better AP-carries.
But I have actually been silly enough to play 2 ranked games as Taric (AP) and won them both :p With a 7-2-X (To lazy to check the assist) in overall for those 2 matches. I know its not a lot, but atleast I can say that I tried it :p
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Popeyez (9) | December 5, 2011 9:30am
Hey Hey!

My review as i promised!

Credits:
- Great in depth guide! I seldomly see them this much indepth, and inlenght xD
- Good items and even more important, good explanation of it
- Explaining laning tactics well with taric, especially great ideas on how to lane with who, and to pay attention on what with wich enemies.
- Good to pick up warding places in your guide, every support guide should have it, since its a important task from the support.

Constructive critism:
- However I admire you trying out tarid AD carry AP carry and jungle, in my opinion its just not where taric shines. If i must chose between having a brand mid or a taric, its brand over taric 100% of the time, unles i know brand is going afk. This is not becouse taric player lacks skill, but becouse taric cannot match up to brand in the AP carry role. Low ap ratios, not enough burst, not enough aoe. Its just not gonna work. Same goes for AD carry taric, you just cant compare it to for example tryndamere. It just can't. However that is MY opinion, i know taric could be mid, could be jungle, could be the ad carry but he simply isnt the best, and in LoL its al about utilysing your characters abilities.
- Ever laned bottemlane with swain? Swain gives insane burst dmge, and if you stun someone, swain has time to land nevermore, gives you a long stun, followed by a long snare, followed by a long slow, this means instand death, since swain has nuking potentional from off lvl 6. (had enough cases where one came back from base just to go back to base again cuz i nuked him) Anyways try to lane with one, its worth your time.

I think this guide looks really solid, it has alot of text wich makes peeps who are not so interested in supports skip a part, but they should read it though, its worth it. Definetly a +1 from me.

And I am sorry, but I dont play supports mostly so a full support player would maybe point out a few more things for you, but from what i know from taric and his role, you quite aced the Support part. Looking forward to see ya in a game!

GL
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Taneren (177) | December 4, 2011 10:40pm

All around support works best for me since I love support. It works, but takes time and takes effort to learn Taric to play @ his best.

Thumbs up, +1.

(I really recommend #1 build, honestly, support Taric is freaking awesome.

PS: I am biased LOL)

Well, most of them are for fun to be honest, Support Taric is the only one that should actually be played. But let me point out, that I played 2 ranked games with AP-Taric and won :p So it is viable, there are just better AP champions.
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TheWeekndOVOXO (33) | December 4, 2011 9:45pm
All around support works best for me since I love support. It works, but takes time and takes effort to learn Taric to play @ his best.

Thumbs up, +1.

(I really recommend #1 build, honestly, support Taric is freaking awesome.

PS: I am biased LOL)
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Taneren (177) | December 3, 2011 1:27pm

Great guide you obviously spend a lot of time and effort in this guide. Just remember to always update it. It sucks to have the top voted guides be a year old lol.

I will, it sucks that number #1 lies as the current top rated. I just hope that I remain happy for playing Taric and will keep updating it through the different patches.

EDIT: Yeah it took a lot of time xD
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BooNDoCK6988 (2) | December 3, 2011 10:59am
Great guide you obviously spend a lot of time and effort in this guide. Just remember to always update it. It sucks to have the top voted guides be a year old lol.
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Taneren (177) | December 2, 2011 5:28pm
Shrillex wrote:

I only tried the 1st build but was good +1

The rest is just for fun (I played 2 AP-Taric in ranked tho' -_- Won both :D) But well, support is the main build, and the one people should play him with :p
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Shrillex (39) | December 2, 2011 5:21pm
I only tried the 1st build but was good +1
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Taneren (177) | December 2, 2011 8:37am
I just get the feeling that a lot of people will give me criticism (negative) if they end up reading 1 thing, 4 times. And find it a waste of their time. I'm gonna ask a few other reviewrs tommorow as well, and if they write something that reminds of your review, I will consider it.

But for now, I am more satisfied with my guide parted in the way I did it :)

Thank you for your time.
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Kazega (72) | December 2, 2011 7:30am
Taneren wrote:

I get what you mean, but if you think about it. That would make me repeat a lot of things over and over, if I did it that way. It would simply make the chapters too big for my taste. I made sure to use colours on the parts that you should notice for each role, to make it a bit more noticeable. Wouldn't it seem strange if I sort of had to repeat myself, I am pointing out a few things in the different chapters, if I parted it out like you said I would basically have to ctrl-C, ctrl-V 1 thing 4 times.
For example in my Team work & Fights chapter


But everyone have their own opinions :) I guess I won't get a high rating at your review than :/ Since we seem to have different views on how to make it. But it is always nice to see that you used your time on my guide, so thank you and +rep to you.

-Taneren.

Well I might be a little harsher than others but it's a bit of a military approach I guess. And not everyone responds to this kind of commenting differently. anyway back to the problem at hand:

what I suggested for your guide is Consolidation. Sorting the Information you have and putting it into smaller piles that are easier to deal with. So now you make a mention that you would have to copy certain sections repeatedly. So why not consolidate all the information that you would have to copy 4 times over?
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Taneren (177) | December 2, 2011 7:15am
NoobyPower wrote:

Might want to change your part on countering Tristana :P

You never know, your underestimation of her could as well make your game end badly :3

Haha :P I'm sorry, but until a good Tristana show me wrong, I'm gonna see her as bad ^^

Truth be told, I met more than 6 legendary tristana's with skin, but NONE of them had + score, every single one of them went with a horrible 1-7-X score (feeder score :/). I even played with a few myself, 1 was legendary and she went 2-6 and got carried by our team to the victory.

So unless we are on the same server and you can show me wrong, I won't change it :) Sorry ^^
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Taneren (177) | December 2, 2011 7:11am
Kazega wrote:

Chill out dude. Content isn't just the information, but how it is indexed and laid out. You are writing a guide for 4 different Tarics. As such you should be indexing your information to go with which ever Taric the information applies: all your support Taric information goes together and likewise with everything else. Let me Illustrate my point:

These are your chapters in your guide: I point out which Tarics apply to each chapter


As you can see I have to work hard to find a lot of the information I need to play a Tank Taric. This is why your Content and Conveyance score was low, you have too much information and it isn't organized. To improve this take all the information you have in the guide and organize it so that I can go to a specific section of your guide to read up on what I need to know.

You also mentioned that you don't understand the Word "Conveyance". what the word Translates to is "This is my idea and this is why it is a good idea."

TTDR; The reason your Content and Conveyance scores were low was due to a lot of clutter. Don't mix information between four builds, dedicate a part of your guide to explain what's up. I did read your guide: but as you stated, it felt like I never did.

I get what you mean, but if you think about it. That would make me repeat a lot of things over and over, if I did it that way. It would simply make the chapters too big for my taste. I made sure to use colours on the parts that you should notice for each role, to make it a bit more noticeable. Wouldn't it seem strange if I sort of had to repeat myself, I am pointing out a few things in the different chapters, if I parted it out like you said I would basically have to ctrl-C, ctrl-V 1 thing 4 times.
For example in my Team work & Fights chapter
Quoted:
"The teams are grouping up, and a teamfight is incoming - You're running in circles unsure who to choose and Dazzle Remember that you are tanky, and can easily engage. Just run in, when you know your teammates are prepared to pick out the one you stun, which should primarily be an AP carry or a ranged AD Carry, whomever is squishy and fed(STUN THE CHAMPION WHO HAS THE HIGHEST DAMAGE OUTPUT). Pop your Radiance when the fight breaks loose, but remain with your Shatter on for a while, the bonus armor really matters. When the fight is about to end, use Shatter to add some extra damage (Make sure NOT to killsteal with this spell)
Keep in mind to use Imbue on your low healthed teammate, and NEVER on yourself, that is why Imbue is so awesome, it heals both you and the teammate you throw it on.
It might not be a Soraka heal, but it's still pretty damn good!
"


Information like this, would be needed to be re-written 4 times. That is kinda silly.

But everyone have their own opinions :) I guess I won't get a high rating at your review than :/ Since we seem to have different views on how to make it. But it is always nice to see that you used your time on my guide, so thank you and +rep to you.

-Taneren.
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Kazega (72) | December 2, 2011 5:54am
Chill out dude. Content isn't just the information, but how it is indexed and laid out. You are writing a guide for 4 different Tarics. As such you should be indexing your information to go with which ever Taric the information applies: all your support Taric information goes together and likewise with everything else. Let me Illustrate my point:

These are your chapters in your guide: I point out which Tarics apply to each chapter
Taneren wrote:

1. All Four
2. All Four
3. All Four
4. All Four
5. All Four
6. All Four
7. All Four
8. All Four
9. All Four
10.Support
11.All Four
12.All Four
13.All Four
14.All Four
16.Jungle/AP Burster
17.Jungle
18.Jungle


As you can see I have to work hard to find a lot of the information I need to play a Tank Taric. This is why your Content and Conveyance score was low, you have too much information and it isn't organized. To improve this take all the information you have in the guide and organize it so that I can go to a specific section of your guide to read up on what I need to know.

You also mentioned that you don't understand the Word "Conveyance". what the word Translates to is "This is my idea and this is why it is a good idea."

TTDR; The reason your Content and Conveyance scores were low was due to a lot of clutter. Don't mix information between four builds, dedicate a part of your guide to explain what's up. I did read your guide: but as you stated, it felt like I never did.
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Taneren (177) | December 2, 2011 5:15am
Kazega wrote:

Presentation: 4/5
Content: 1/3
Conveyance: 2/5
Spelling/Grammar 3/3
Total: 10/16

It was really hard for me to read through this guide. I feel like you are trying to do too much with this guide. Formatting could be better (use varying text sizes) and a lot of information could be consolidated and placed better. The best way to do that is to have a section on only Support Taric. Start with the Pregame set-up and build and explain the gameplay and ward placement. Do the same with your other builds and finally include general information like Enemy champions, laning partners and so-on. A quick way to solve this is to stick to one or two builds. But whatever you do, consolidation is much needed in this guide

Alright, I know that I wrote that I accept both negative and positive criticism.. But did you really read this, or did you just skip most of it and make a quick judgement?
Presentation: 4/5 - Cool, thank you. What else can I upgrade to get a 5/5?
Content: 1/3 - ARE YOU ****ING KIDDING ME?! I might missunderstand the word? Content is for me, information about the Champion, how to handle him, what to do and what to buy.
What do I need, I really wish to know what I need to add 2 more to get 3/3?
I got.
1. Introduction.
2. Pro's & Cons.
3. Summoner spells.
4. Abilities.
5. Laning, for every single role. HOW TO and WHAT TO, even WHEN TO.
6. Partners, I listed good partners for both AD-Ranged, AP and AD-Melee. And HOW TO go in, and what rotation.
7. I explain team work for each of the 4 roles once again.
8. I who to focus, what to do and when to do it. I even take care of how they should do in the teamfight.
9. I point out one of the most important things, NEVER CHASE A TARGET AND RISK YOUR TEAM DYING IN THE MEAN WHILE.
10. I got the supporting, how to start the game using Clairvoyance and where, followed by what items you should starto ut with. Core items, boots, everything you will need for the situation and your enemies.
Still you write and I quote "A quick way to solve this is to stick to one or two builds." I don't why you are saying this? You shouldn't EVER stick to one build, you should build in a way to counter your enemies. And I list what you need there, on both Support, AP, Jungle and Tank. Tell me why I shouldn't list everything a person should need to counter the different teams?
11. I got more than just 1 rune suggestion for each chapter of the 4 roles. Again with more than just 1 rune in Marks, Seals, Glyphs and Quintessences, I even explain WHY you should pick a specific sort of runes, all depending on your playstyle.
12. I got masteries, and once again its for all 4 roles.
13. I got my skill order / ability sequence, and I explain why I max out my skills in that order.
14. I quote again, about my wards and pregame set-up build "Start with the Pregame set-up and build and explain the gameplay and ward placement. Do the same with your other builds and finally include general information like Enemy champions, laning partners and so-on" Wait whaa? I do have my pregame set-up and build explain, the gameplay is added earlier for people to understand how to play Taric before adding the build, it would confuse them. Besides that, why the hell should I place my ward section in the start of the support guide? It would be a lot more smart to put it in the end, when they understood what supporting is about. Explain me why I should put it in the start of my support guide, and I will consider it. Laning partners should not be before the build, why?! I place it after my build, and after I'm done explaining about Taric so people understand WHY and HOW I act against the different champions.
15. I got laning enemies and how to counter them, and what way to handle them.
16. I got the skill rotation when attacking, and going in for a kill. I even explain why I do like this.
17. I got the jungle, giving you different ways of building and why you should do so.
18. I got a video showing an excellent route, and why I go this route as well.

Now I'm about to end it, but I quote you again ". I feel like you are trying to do too much with this guide" OF COURSE I AM TRYING TO MUCH WITH THIS GUIDE? I do not deserve to lie as number #1 on the list, if I do not try and make it the best possible and upgrade it as much as possible, to help people understand the wonderfull champion known as Taric.

Another quote "Formatting could be better (use varying text sizes) " Where is there to format better? Go into details about what to change and do better. + I've seen your guide and the way you use text sizes, quite frankly I dislike it, but here is what I will do. On the small text with for example "Core Items" and "Boots" I will make it bigger, fair enough, I can see that I should increase the size there, but not on almost every single headline, that looks silly.

Conveyance 2/5 - What does that word mean? I tried to translate it, but well.. I did not understand it on my language neither. Anyways 2/5 ? what can I do to improve this?

Spelling/Grammar 3/3: Cool, 3/3 a thank you to Wayne3100 for helping me with the grammatic part.

Besides that, I do not think you should EVER post your review of a guide on your list on your own guide, before getting a respond from the owner of the guide himself.

And please, try and make the persons guide you review feel like you actually did bother to read it.. I didn't feel that way, it's like you just skipped most of it, or didn't read it good enough. I cannot understand a 1/3 in content.. WHAT DO I NEED?

-Taneren. Can't wait for your respond :) But i'm gonna post this comment on both my own guide, and your review guide.

Thank you for your time to review my guide <3
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NoobyPower (83) | December 2, 2011 2:04am
Might want to change your part on countering Tristana :P

You never know, your underestimation of her could as well make your game end badly :3
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Kazega (72) | December 2, 2011 12:38am
Presentation: 4/5
Content: 1/3
Conveyance: 2/5
Spelling/Grammar 3/3
Total: 10/16

It was really hard for me to read through this guide. I feel like you are trying to do too much with this guide. Formatting could be better (use varying text sizes) and a lot of information could be consolidated and placed better. The best way to do that is to have a section on only Support Taric. Start with the Pregame set-up and build and explain the gameplay and ward placement. Do the same with your other builds and finally include general information like Enemy champions, laning partners and so-on. A quick way to solve this is to stick to one or two builds. But whatever you do, consolidation is much needed in this guide
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Taneren (177) | November 30, 2011 6:05am
Bavatron wrote:

Nice support build and guide. Made an account just to give you thumbs up. Keep up the awesome guide!

1+ Vote from me. I love a good Taric guide and this one is truly, truly, truly outrageous :P

Hahah xD Thank you, I'm glad that you like it :p
Always good to know that people find my guide useful.

-Taneren.
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Bavatron | November 30, 2011 5:47am
Nice support build and guide. Made an account just to give you thumbs up. Keep up the awesome guide!

1+ Vote from me. I love a good Taric guide and this one is truly, truly, truly outrageous :P
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Taneren (177) | November 29, 2011 1:21am

This is a really good guide, its pretty obvious you spent a lot of time on it. I got Taric for free, I don't really remember why, but I've always wanted to give him a try. Now I have 4 different ways to try him out :P

Nicely Done!

Hehe thank you :D And yeah I have used a lot of time on this guide. + I suggest for you to start out with a few support games before going AP or jungle. I recently started to go AP-Taric in ranked.
Hoping to hit number 1, since the current guide lying number 1 is out-dated, still season 1 masteries.

-Taneren.
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tylerpulsifer (6) | November 29, 2011 12:53am
This is a really good guide, its pretty obvious you spent a lot of time on it. I got Taric for free, I don't really remember why, but I've always wanted to give him a try. Now I have 4 different ways to try him out :P

Nicely Done!
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Taneren (177) | November 27, 2011 10:44am
Fixed.
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Taneren (177) | November 27, 2011 3:51am
I will get right to it.
About the masteries, I'm still not very familiar with them, and are in doubt of what to take, so I'm glad you are able to help me get a better set of masteries.
I am going to update this as soon as possible, but I got a lot of things to handle at the moment besides this guide, so it will take more than just a day, as well as I'm currently adding a big chapter about enemies in the different lanes. (Mid & Bot).

-Taneren.

Thank you for your time.

EDIT: I did list a 0/9/21 masteries in my support chapter. But I will remake them, and put different points in it.
I will keep the 3x Greater Quintessence of Movement Speed, and Swiftness in masteries, and most people do not have / pick Greater Quintessence of Movement Speed and if they bother to read, I also list a few others that could be a viable choice. + What I really enjoy about Taric is when he moves quickly, making it easier to chase up with Dazzle or flee, if it comes to that.
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PsiGuard (862) | November 27, 2011 2:02am

Build Review


As I've been fairly busy, I don't have the time right now to give your guide a complete review. I've decided to give you a shorter review based solely on your cheatsheets instead since this guide has multiple builds. I may be able to give you a review of the guide itself in the future, but hopefully this will suffice for now.

Build One: Support



Build Two: AP


  • I don't see the point in that one Greater Quintessence of Magic Penetration. Even if you're playing as an AP caster, Greater Quintessence of Ability Power are almost always superior. The bonus AP will also buff Imbue, while extra magic penetration will not.
  • Havoc > Mental Force if you ask me.
  • Do not list both Void Staff and Abyssal Scepter in the cheatsheet. You should never get both at once, so pick the one you'd use the most and list the other one as a situational option. I would recommend keeping Abyssal Scepter, since it's still geared towards a support/tank role while giving you the AP you're looking for.
  • I'd suggest removing Elixir of Brilliance from the purchase order, or at least putting it at the end. Elixirs can be bought at almost any time in the game depending on the situation. Putting them at a specific time in the build is more restrictive than it is informative. You can put it at the end if you really want to, since it's pretty much the only thing you can buy when you're at full build.
  • I'm not sure about Rylai's Crystal Scepter. The slow is nice, but what you could really use instead is some armor. You might want to think about getting a Zhonya's Hourglass instead. You'll get even more AP, some important armor and a handy active for heated team fights. You'll have to rely on Dazzle and your allies for CC, but I think it would be worth the trade-off since most of your damage is dealt in burst and you can't exactly spam spells to slow your target down.
  • Summoner's Insight > Good Hands since you take Flash.
  • Meditation > Swiftness if you ask me. That mp5 is invaluable, while the bonus from Swiftness is almost imperceptible.

Build Three: Jungle



Build Four: Tank



That's about all I've got for now. I hope that's enough to tide you over. Like I said earlier, I might come back again to review the guide itself if I have time.

-PsiGuard
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Taneren (177) | November 25, 2011 5:54pm
gabpin wrote:

the new number 1 taric build. Really good job :) !

Thank you :) You should check it out tommorow, I will have a full list of enemies in bot and mid lane. Supports, AD-Carries and AP-Carries, and how to handle them.
I just need to correct some grammatic mistakes, that I'm too tired to handle at the moment.
I'm so proud of my first guide being so close to nr.1 :D And I really hope it gets there.

-Taneren.
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gabpin (12) | November 25, 2011 5:39pm
the new number 1 taric build. Really good job :) !
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Taneren (177) | November 25, 2011 3:26am

+1

Actually a really good guide, nice builds and format and info ^^

Always good to know, thank you :D I am currently updating it, and will make a chapter about enemies you could meet in the different lanes and how to counter them.

Thank you :)
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wRAthoFVuLK (535) | November 25, 2011 1:32am
+1

Actually a really good guide, nice builds and format and info ^^
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Taneren (177) | November 25, 2011 12:01am

I'm gonna check Taric for sure after checkin' Your guide, solid +1 for good job, after testing ll post some more in-deep observations ^^

Awesome :D Would be cool if you could post some pictures of it :D
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eiDyMgnilraD (2) | November 24, 2011 11:50pm
I'm gonna check Taric for sure after checkin' Your guide, solid +1 for good job, after testing ll post some more in-deep observations ^^
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Wayne3100 (452) | November 24, 2011 6:14am
:)
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Taneren (177) | November 24, 2011 6:10am
Wayne3100 wrote:

It still says [[dazzle], are you sure the coding is correct?

I guess there was more than just 1 coding error.
Give me a sec to track it down.

EDIT: Fixed, I really hope that was it. I cannot find anything else myself.
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Wayne3100 (452) | November 24, 2011 6:07am
It still says [[dazzle], are you sure the coding is correct?
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Taneren (177) | November 24, 2011 5:40am
Wayne3100 wrote:



  • They're keep --> cheap?
  • 0.2seconds --> 0.2 seconds (I'm being nitpicky, I know)
  • dazzle] --> Dazzle
  • or given me a kill --> repeat would have: or would have given me a kill
  • Ionian Boots of Lucidity --> coding error, Ionian Boots of Lucidity
  • You already mentioned they are cheap :P


EDIT:
  • You still use the word unstopable once, instead of unstoppable
  • You still use abit instead of a bit three times

I don't mind you being "nitpicky" as said, and I will get right to it.
It should be fixed within 10minutes.
I take care of the unstopable / abit again -_- I don't know why, just keep on using those two in the wrong way.

Thank you. But where did you find the error code on dazzle? (I will try and search, just thought I picked out them all).

About the coding error, It wont work! I tried, when I make around it, it ends up showing " [[ Ionian Boots of Lucidity "

EDIT: I'm glad to know that you're still keeping updated on my guide.
EDIT: Fixed.
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Wayne3100 (452) | November 24, 2011 5:02am
Quoted:
Ionian Boots of Lucidity, are viable as well. They're keep and grant you CD reduction, nothing to complain about. I noticed several times that I was 0.2seconds from that Imbue, Shatter or dazzle] which would have saved me, or given me a kill. + [[Ionian Boots of Lucidity are relatively cheap as well, which means that you will have the gold for a ward or two, on picking these boots.


  • They're keep --> cheap?
  • 0.2seconds --> 0.2 seconds (I'm being nitpicky, I know)
  • dazzle] --> Dazzle
  • or given me a kill --> repeat would have: or would have given me a kill
  • Ionian Boots of Lucidity --> coding error, Ionian Boots of Lucidity
  • You already mentioned they are cheap :P


EDIT:
  • You still use the word unstopable once, instead of unstoppable
  • You still use abit instead of a bit three times
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Taneren (177) | November 23, 2011 9:48am
Flane wrote:

Hey, great guide, very well and clearly written, despite few minor spelling errors :) It's very informative and covers all aspects of Taric's gameplay.
Also, the composition of the guide is very consistent, which is always a good thing, and sometimes hard to achieve.

In terms of improvements, I would say, align images to center of the page, it looks cleaner that way. Also put more spaces between text and images. Same thing would apply to mastery and ability sequence bbcode tags, it's all a little bit too clustered.
"Abilities" chapter could use the same treatment, too :)

Other than that, as I've said, it's a very in-depth guide, which is useful not only for the most common support Taric.
+1 for the job you've done here.

90% of the spelling errors are fixed now, I have intentions of doing the spacing around the different builds, and in the ability section as well. 2-3 days and I will have what you said done. Besides that, I'm also working on a chapter explaining how to handle the different champions on a lane (this might take 1-2 weeks, alot of work).

But thank you for the +1 :)
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Flane (1) | November 23, 2011 8:59am
Hey, great guide, very well and clearly written, despite few minor spelling errors :) It's very informative and covers all aspects of Taric's gameplay.
Also, the composition of the guide is very consistent, which is always a good thing, and sometimes hard to achieve.

In terms of improvements, I would say, align images to center of the page, it looks cleaner that way. Also put more spaces between text and images. Same thing would apply to mastery and ability sequence bbcode tags, it's all a little bit too clustered.
"Abilities" chapter could use the same treatment, too :)

Other than that, as I've said, it's a very in-depth guide, which is useful not only for the most common support Taric.
+1 for the job you've done here.
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Taneren (177) | November 23, 2011 4:37am

an awsome guide gj mate here is every thing sum1 will ever need to play taric
+1

Thank you :D It's currently in update, fixing all the grammatic errors and are going to put in a chapter about lane opponents.

-Taneren.
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GreenAspect | November 23, 2011 4:06am
an awsome guide gj mate here is every thing sum1 will ever need to play taric
+1
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Taneren (177) | November 23, 2011 4:04am
Rajner wrote:

I understand you win ranks with AP Taric but think for a moment - will he nuke the enemy as good as Gragas or Brand? I don't think so. So I wouldn't count him as ap carry.

For me (if not support) he can be rather ap-offtank (something like mordekaiser).

True ;) But I like a challenge, and this is also a reason why I havent made a chapter, of how play ranked. Since only support should be picked in ranked.
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Rajner (8) | November 23, 2011 4:02am
I understand you win ranks with AP Taric but think for a moment - will he nuke the enemy as good as Gragas or Brand? I don't think so. So I wouldn't count him as ap carry.

For me (if not support) he can be rather ap-offtank (something like mordekaiser).
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Taneren (177) | November 23, 2011 3:14am
Rajner wrote:

I'm not a Taric-fan, but I read this to get more knowledge. :)

I think that the only Taric that should be played, is support Taric. I think that this is most viable in SERIOUS games. As AP or AD, I think that other champions are better. And as a player, who plays as tank very often, I'd say that Taric is a bad tank - he got only one CC.

Still, It's good that you tried all the possibilieties, but I think that you should pay most attention to support-Taric. +1 of course for your effort.

P.S. If you like tanky supports, try out Alistar - he is my favorite supporting champion. :)

I play alistar too :p
But well, I also mention that Taric tank, shouldnt be played and is not recommended by me.
Jungle Taric might not be the best either, since there are many better jungle picks.

And about AP Taric, it is viable and I play it in ranked, I only lost 1 game with it, but I never had a negative K/D/A in Ranked with AP Taric. (Not that I play it THAT Much :) )

Thank you for the vote.
-Taneren.
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Rajner (8) | November 23, 2011 1:25am
I'm not a Taric-fan, but I read this to get more knowledge. :)

I think that the only Taric that should be played, is support Taric. I think that this is most viable in SERIOUS games. As AP or AD, I think that other champions are better. And as a player, who plays as tank very often, I'd say that Taric is a bad tank - he got only one CC.

Still, It's good that you tried all the possibilieties, but I think that you should pay most attention to support-Taric. +1 of course for your effort.

P.S. If you like tanky supports, try out Alistar - he is my favorite supporting champion. :)
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Wayne3100 (452) | November 22, 2011 5:01pm
Hey, you requested a review so here it is.
Since we're judging based on 4 different aspects, I'll go by all of them and list all the issues/criticism/questions I have :)


Viability/Content

It's hard for me to judge on the viability of AD Jungle Taric and AP Taric, but I do have some questions about the content:
  • AP: What happens when facing an enemy like Karthus or Brand and you have to start with boots? Won't Taric often run out of mana?
    Also, how should you play before going in for the kill? What is his 'harass'?
  • Jungle Taric: What clearing times does he have? Also, is counterjungling easy?

Finally, one question about the support part of the guide:

Spelling/Grammar

The weak spot of this guide.
It's ok if you're not English, but I wonder whether you did a spell check on this.
I decided to take a 'quick look' at the errors, which is why I now have a list of 98 mistakes you made, Ctrl + F them to find where these mistakes were made and fix them.
  • buff's --> buffs
  • and outzone them --> it's simply zone, not outzone
  • Aura's for the team --> auras
  • Great at pushing due to being so tanky and a decent heal. --> having a decent heal
  • your AD carry do not allow --> does not allow
  • as an swift flash-stun combo --> a swift flash-stun combo
  • you're jungilng --> jungling
  • going MID/Solo top --> Not bad, but why the caps? Mid
  • I have always been happy for Ghost along with strong AD melee characters --> happy about using Ghost on strong AD melee characters
  • to finish of another Champion --> finish off
  • wonderfull counter --> wonderful
  • Carrying Smite with you on the lane *** --> in lane, not on the lane
  • Fortify has been removed from the game :)
  • doesn't real suit me --> really
  • and therefor also a viable choice --> therefore
  • I'm not happy for it --> happy about it
  • Those summoner spells of which I did not mentions, are not supposed to be used --> The summoner spells that I did not mention are not supposed to be used (remove the comma)
  • as well as pushing your lane out by auto-hitting --> simply pushing your lane
  • the carry have to care about --> has to care about
  • high cool down --> cooldown (you make this mistake more often, Ctrl+F it)
  • In team fight he will be able to spam heal people while giving tons of damage, as AD since the cool down is lowered by 1 second per auto hit --> As an AD champion, he will be able to spam heal people while dealing tons of damage in teamfights, because the cooldown is lowered by 1 second per autohit
  • It can be key to winning a team fight, by picking out their carries and on the lane its just fantastic in good combinations --> Messy. Rephrase to something like this:
    It can be key to winning a teamfight, when used to stun their carries. In lane, it's just fantastic when combined with another ability like Caitlyn's Yordle Snap Trap (you can run forward stunning them, while Cait plants a trap under them).
  • [Radiance --> coding error
  • a burst damage --> 'a damage' doesn't exist. Change to something like an amount of damage
  • Acording to me --> According. Can be rephrased to In my opinion
  • with a Champion who got a good burst due to his stun --> who has good burst (remove a)
  • you should primarily focuse on the following --> focus
  • when the opportunity arrives. --> You're looking for when the opportunity arises
  • try to avoid getting harrased too much --> harassed
  • on eachother --> each other
  • and take the burst from the enemy Champions --> tank, absorb or soak the burst damage
  • Farming as the tank is okay, unless you're taking them from another Carry.
  • she got plently of time --> she has
  • repeatedly keeps on nuking --> we keep
  • pissing of your opponent --> pissing off
  • cruel ***asian --> assassin
  • with alot of Talon's --> a lot of Talons
  • Taric is wonderfull partner for everyone --> wonderful
  • teamfight is incomming --> incoming
  • unsure of who to pick out --> change to unsure of who to choose
  • WHO GOT THE HIGHEST DAMAGE OUT-PUT --> HAS THE HIGHEST DAMAGE OUTPUT
  • ekstra damage --> extra (you make this mistake more often, Ctrl+F it)
  • Keep in mind to use Imbue on your low healthed teammate --> rephrase to: use Imbue on a teammate that has low health
  • It might not be a Soraka's heal --> Soraka heal
  • heal your team mates --> teammates
  • not a powerfull magican --> powerful magician
  • your [dazzle] --> coding error
  • as Xin Zhao Xin zhao might would do --> remove Xin zhao and remove might
  • pull out if you get foucsed --> focused
  • Whereever you go --> Wherever
  • Buy x1 Faeirie Charm --> Faerie Charm
  • If you got the gold to spare (Due to new masteries, buy whatever suits you) --> If you have some gold to spare (due to the new masteries), buy whatever suits you
  • Now it's time to buy either a [vision ward] or an Oracle --> coding error, no coding for Oracle's Elixir
  • This item might do a game breaking momemt --> This item may be useful at a game-breaking moment
  • It is also good for escape mechanism --> good to escape or good as an escape mechanism
  • in alomst every game --> almost
  • if you have alot AP carries on your team and if they team are filled with fed AP Champions --> a lot of AP carries and if their team is filled with fed AP champions
  • while Randuin's Omen are recommended --> is recommended
  • Its the same concept as Randuin's Omen and Abyssal's scepter, Banshee's veil is a badarse against fed AP foes --> It's the same concept as Randuin's Omen and Abyssal Scepter, Banshee's Veil is a badass item against fed AP foes
  • my favorite rune pick in Mark's --> marks
  • is abit higher --> a bit
  • if we are almost 100% that the combo you meet --> 100% sure
  • The added armor makes the carry feels like she got zero damage, when she is attempting to harass you --> makes the carry feel like she has (why she?)
  • It's always usefull --> useful
  • who can complain over that --> about that
  • a good an amount --> a good amount
  • might make the difference on getting the kill or not --> the difference between
  • you should take 3/3 in Archmage's Savvy --> That's now 4/4 Mental Force
  • with both Sight Ward's and Vision Ward's --> Sight Wards and Vision Wards
  • you probally --> probably
  • I were originally inspired to try out AP-Taric, by iCheatx --> I was
  • the damage output Taric have as an AP-carry --> damage output that Taric has
  • advantage of having [dazzle] --> coding error
  • Rabadon's cap, made through your Needlessly Large Rod size --> Rabadon's Deathcap and Needlessly Large Rod
  • Next in line could be Guaridan's Angel --> Guardian Angel
  • [Greater Seal of Potency]], is also great, if you have intentions to go flat AP in all your runes (Do NOT change them in marks, go Armor Penetration there] --> coding error. Also, replace the ] by a )
  • your [dazzle] --> coding error
  • I hope to get some positive feedback and critism --> criticism
  • I like my route alot more --> a lot
  • The stats on it is simply too great --> the stats are
  • will not just slow your taget --> target
  • it got the damage you search for as well --> it has
  • Usefull for high damage --> useful
  • in a long a** game --> a** ?
  • since I decided to skip it in the my Quint runes --> Sounds better if you say: since I decided not to use armor penetration quintessences
  • when fighting the jungle --> you're jungling, not fighting the jungle :P
  • I like the armor seals abit more --> a bit
  • If you did not pick attack speed it neither Marks(red) or Seals(yellow) You need to take them in Glyphs --> in either Marks or Seals
  • Taric is an overall tanky character and do not need 'tank' items --> does not need
  • So when actually building him tank, makes him kinda unstopable --> building him like a a tank, it makes him kinda unstoppable
  • [[Philosopher's stone Philosopher's stone --> Coding error
  • unless you're stealing your partners creeps --> your partners' creeps
  • Runes to make you even more unstopable --> unstoppable
  • Is usefull --> useful
  • it means alot to me --> a lot
  • Critisism is allowed --> Criticism
  • (What do my guide need?) --> What does my guide need?

There were also quite some sentences that could be rephrased, but listing those as well was simply too much work so I stuck to actual errors. Hope that's enough.


Visual Appearance

This guide looks good, but I feel like a lot of sections are the same and you use lists a bit too often in my opinion. Try making more use of columns.

To take your 'Abilities' section as an example, you could make it look like this:
Gemcraft
SPACE
Can be a minus in the laning phase, as you are forced to auto-hit some of the minions to keep up your mana. You might have to put yourself in range to get harassed, as well as pushing your lane out by auto-hitting. Also keep in mind to hit minions, who have a high amount of health. This way you can avoid killing them; last hitting is something the carry have to care about, not you.

The black text won't be visible because the Mobafire background is also black, of course ;)

There are two other issues I have, both of which I'll explain using a screenshot:
  • Spacing. The red lines indicate where I think should be more Enters.
  • Headings. The words with a blue circle around them are the introduction of a new subject, yet they aren't centered and don't have a fancy colour or a heading :S
Note that these pictures both show only examples of what I mean.


Depth

Absolutely amazing. Support Taric, Jungle AD Taric, AP Taric and Tank Taric. This covers everything players need to know about Taric.
A possible improvement could be also listing some enemy laners in the bottom as well as in the middle lane, but it's not necessary to add that.






That's it, hope it helps.

Great job on making such a detailed guide ^^
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Taneren (177) | November 22, 2011 1:23pm
Calibern wrote:




Becomes:



Put a /list between first list and second list.

That explains it, thank you for all the help.
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Calibern (34) | November 22, 2011 1:09pm
Quoted:
[list]
[*] information
[*] information
[*] information
[list]
[*] information
[*] information
[*] information
[[/list]



Becomes:

Quoted:
  • information
  • information
  • information
    • information
    • information
    • information


Put a /list between first list and second list.
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Calibern (34) | November 22, 2011 11:39am
Oh, I think you kept it in list format so it kept the indent. Send me a pm of the coding you used and I'll see what I can do, no promises. If you could add an extra[[ to each coding that would be great.
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kRaz0r (2) | November 22, 2011 11:29am
Very nice and in-depth guide. Thank you :)
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Taneren (177) | November 22, 2011 7:12am
Calibern wrote:



This is what the coding for your abilities section looks like before you click view / post reply. I can make it not code by adding extra brackets, but that is what it looks like when you type it in. (I fix a couple of grammar mistakes; mostly with agreement and run on sentences. Since you aren't a native English speaker it is no big deal) You can just copy and paste the formatting above and it will look like :




If you haven't already read Jhoijhoi's guide to making a guide, I would highly recommend it. She has great explanation on coding and guide aesthetics.

This helped me ALOT, I wish I could double rep you.
I re-wrote almost EVERY item in this guide, and changed it out with your coding.
But if you could do me one last favour, and help with the coding on my tanky part of the guide, at the masteries, for some reason they're bugging and I cannot fix it. I was hoping you could tell me what is wrong.
And yes, I did read Jhoijhoi's guide, thank you for the idea anyways ^^

-Taneren.
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Taneren (177) | November 22, 2011 7:10am
IceCreamy wrote:

More then obvious upvote! Great in-depth guide to Taric, but... I have noticed some slight mistakes.

- Minor spelling errors ("ekstra"? "extra" ;))
- Weird "-" in certain sections.
- Why add the word "abilities" in yellow when the title of that chapter is abilities already?
- Some coding problems, in the AP-Carry - Items & Runes w/Masteries. The pics of the items along with the text looks a bit strange.

But well, mostly nitpicking, great guide and certainly worth the rating it currently has =)

Fixed the spelling errors around ekstra / extra.
Removed several of the strange "-".
-Removed the word abilities, and changed the outlay.
- Coding problems got fixed, and the pictures of the items are looking slightly better now. If it wasn't what you had in mind, re-post, and I'll try to change the outlay once more.

Thank you for the help.
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Calibern (34) | November 21, 2011 4:20pm
Quoted:
A quick walk through on Taric's awesome abilities; a tanky support with a heal [[imbue]], armor buff [[shatter]] to the team, and good damage + an all-around buff to the team and a lovely stun. It is rare for a support to be tanky and have decent damage. They're usually quite squishy for example [[Soraka]], [[Janna]] & [[Sona]].


[list]
[*] [[Gemcraft]](Passive): Can be a minus in the laning phase, as you are forced to auto-hit some of the minions to keep up your mana. You might have to put yourself in range to get harassed, as well as pushing your lane out by auto-hitting. Also keep in mind to hit minions, who have a high amount of health. This way you can avoid killing them; last hitting is something the carry have to care about, not you.
[*] [[Imbue]](Q): A decent heal with a high cool down early game, which is lowered late game. It is one of the spells that is nomnomnomming on your Mana [[Cho'gath]] style. You should always try and heal your partner, because it also heals yourself in the process. The awesome thing about this ability is plain and simple: "The cool down of Imbue is reduced by 1 second, per auto hit." That is pretty awesome, when you get some attack speed you can spam heal, whenever it suits you.
It also explains why I decided to add a [[phantom dancer]] to my AD-Jungle build. In team fight he will be able to spam heal people while giving tons of damage, as AD since the cool down is lowered by 1 second per auto hit.
[*] [[[Shatter]](W): Shatter is a useful aura in both team fights and in the lane, granting you armor. This will aid you and your AD carry in the bot lane vs another AD carry & Support, giving you an advantage. The spell can also be used as a nuking device, it even decreases their armor.
[*] [[Dazzle]](E): Yes, sire! Dazzle is a perfect CC ability, probably one of the best single target stuns in the game. It is easy to land and will help you out zone the enemy, as they will be in fear of that stun. It can be key to winning a team fight, by picking out their carries and on the lane its just fantastic in good combinations. For example with [[Caitlyn]]'s [[Yordle snap Trap]], you can run forward stunning them, while Cait plants a trap under them. A good CC rotation; I will tell you more about laning partners later in the guide.
[*] [[[Radiance]](R): The ultimate that got buffed! This is such a brilliant spell, a burst damage and a team buff, granting both AP and AD! The cool down isn't too long, and it lasts long enough for a team fight to finish off.
[/list]


This is what the coding for your abilities section looks like before you click view / post reply. I can make it not code by adding extra brackets, but that is what it looks like when you type it in. (I fix a couple of grammar mistakes; mostly with agreement and run on sentences. Since you aren't a native English speaker it is no big deal) You can just copy and paste the formatting above and it will look like :


Quoted:

A quick walk through on Taric's awesome abilities; a tanky support with a heal [imbue, armor buff [[shatter]] to the team, and good damage + an all-around buff to the team and a lovely stun. It is rare for a support to be tanky and have decent damage. They're usually quite squishy for example Soraka, Janna & Sona.

  • Gemcraft(Passive): Can be a minus in the laning phase, as you are forced to auto-hit some of the minions to keep up your mana, and you might have to put yourself in range to get harassed, as well as you are pushing the lane by auto-hitting, but keep in mind to hit minions who have a high amount of health back, so you can avoid last hitting them, last hitting is something the carry have to care about, not you.
  • Imbue(Q): A decent heal, with a high cool down early game, which lowered late game. It is one of the spells that is nomnomnomming on your Mana Cho'Gath style. You should always try and heal your partner with this spell, as it also heals yourself in the process. The awesome thing about this ability is plain and simple "The cool down of Imbue is reduced by 1 second, per auto hit" That is pretty awesome, when you first get some attack speed you can spam heal, as it suits you.
    Which also explains why I decided to add a Phantom Dancer to my AD-Jungle build, in a team fight he will be able to spam heal people while giving tons of damage, as AD since the cool down is lowered by 1 second per auto hit.
  • [Shatter(W): Shatter is a useful aura in both team fights and on the lane, granting you armor. This will aid you and your AD carry in the bot lane vs another AD carry & Support, giving you an advantage. The spell can also be used as a nuking device, it even decreases their armor.
  • Dazzle(E): Yes, sire! Dazzle is a perfect CC ability, probably one of the best single target stuns in the game, it is easy to land and will help you out zone the enemy, as they will be in fear of that stun. It can be the key to winning a team fight, by picking out their carries and on the lane its just fantastic in good combinations, for example with Caitlyn's Yordle Snap Trap. You run forward stunning them, while Cait plants a trap under them. A good CC rotation, I will tell you more about laning partners later in the guide.
  • Radiance(R): The ultimate that got buffed! This is such a brilliant spell, a burst damage and a team buff, granting both AP and AD! The cool down isn't too long, and it lasts long enough for a team fight to finish off.


If you haven't already read Jhoijhoi's guide to making a guide, I would highly recommend it. She has great explanation on coding and guide aesthetics.
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Khazem (186) | November 21, 2011 3:24pm
Very nice guide, went through it all and everytime I found something I could've possibly critized on I mentioned you had it explained as alternative somewhere further in the guide.

So yeah, very nice, detailed guide that covers pretty much everything it needs to cover.

I did spot a tiny coding mistake all the way at the end of your jungling section, where your defense masteries are there's a "[/color]" bit and if I really had to nitpick on stuff, the spacing between your subsections look a bit awkward.
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Taneren (177) | November 21, 2011 2:06pm
Calibern wrote:

^What Ice said few small mistakes here and there, but nothing so major that some one would down vote.

You seem to be having trouble with coding for lists:
[list]
[*] //Information
[*] //Information
[*] //Information
[/list]


Becomes:

  • //Information
  • //Information
  • //Information

Your guide is a really good collection of information on Taric tactics, and builds. You have a nice balance of color, coding, and text. +1

As said above, I'll get right to it! ..(When I had my sleep, I have to get up rather early in the morning and to make it better, I rather update the guide while I'm not tired)
About the coding you just linked me, I'm not sure I quite follow :S I do not suppose you could try and explain it in another way? (I'm very new at making guides, so I'm still struggling to figure out all this coding).

Thank you, for the +1. It really means alot to me, I've worked very hard on the guide. And I'll give you a +rep for attempting to help on the coding.
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Taneren (177) | November 21, 2011 2:03pm
IceCreamy wrote:

More then obvious upvote! Great in-depth guide to Taric, but... I have noticed some slight mistakes.

- Minor spelling errors ("ekstra"? "extra" ;))
- Weird "-" in certain sections.
- Why add the word "abilities" in yellow when the title of that chapter is abilities already?
- Some coding problems, in the AP-Carry - Items & Runes w/Masteries. The pics of the items along with the text looks a bit strange.

But well, mostly nitpicking, great guide and certainly worth the rating it currently has =)

I'm going to bed, it's getting late. So I'll take care of these things whenever I can! (Should be fixed within 12hours)
It really helps me alot, that you point out these mistakes. As I've overseen them, and no one pointed them out. So thank you, and a +rep to you :)

About that "Ekstra, Extra" thingy -_- I'm from Denmark, so I guess that I changed the two words out, don't worry this will be taken care of briefly!
Once again, thank you.
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Calibern (34) | November 21, 2011 2:02pm
^What Ice said few small mistakes here and there, but nothing so major that some one would down vote.

You seem to be having trouble with coding for lists:
[list]
[*] //Information
[*] //Information
[*] //Information
[/list]


Becomes:

  • //Information
  • //Information
  • //Information

Your guide is a really good collection of information on Taric tactics, and builds. You have a nice balance of color, coding, and text. +1
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IceCreamy (446) | November 21, 2011 1:47pm
More then obvious upvote! Great in-depth guide to Taric, but... I have noticed some slight mistakes.

- Minor spelling errors ("ekstra"? "extra" ;))
- Weird "-" in certain sections.
- Why add the word "abilities" in yellow when the title of that chapter is abilities already?
- Some coding problems, in the AP-Carry - Items & Runes w/Masteries. The pics of the items along with the text looks a bit strange.

But well, mostly nitpicking, great guide and certainly worth the rating it currently has =)
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Taneren (177) | November 21, 2011 1:43pm

Holy Moly, indepth. Okay so good guide - I admit I didnt read it all but I rarely play taric so I doubt it would make much difference. All I can say really is that this looks like a great ranked build. Maybe drop the early oracle because honestly, at that point in the game having higher stats will grant a greater bonus than the oracle, plus being a bottom laner with relatively few items you'd probably die pretty fast. I like the early philo, maybe change it though to regen pendant with a mana pot. Buying so many early pots will hinder your gold later because you wont have items to keep. I dunno I have yet to try but looks good. Definitely +1

Hah, I understand you didn't read all of it ^^ I honestly do not expect for many to do (There is so much text! I know it >.>)

True, the Oracle could be pushed abit back in the build. I'll think about that one.
I know that I got a few health pots, but when I play as an Support I play relatively aggressive, another way of saying this "I trade my HP, for a portion of their HP" So, those two health pots will help me sustain in the lane the first 1-4 levels, before I pick up my heal.

Anyways thank you for the +1, I appreciate it!

-Taneren.
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Taneren (177) | November 21, 2011 1:40pm

Wow! Great stuff here.

So many viable builds/roles for a severely underestimated champion!

+1


Thank you, it really means alot to me. And I hope that other people realise that he is more than just a simple Support.
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Rys Aberdeen (188) | November 21, 2011 1:05pm
Holy Moly, indepth. Okay so good guide - I admit I didnt read it all but I rarely play taric so I doubt it would make much difference. All I can say really is that this looks like a great ranked build. Maybe drop the early oracle because honestly, at that point in the game having higher stats will grant a greater bonus than the oracle, plus being a bottom laner with relatively few items you'd probably die pretty fast. I like the early philo, maybe change it though to regen pendant with a mana pot. Buying so many early pots will hinder your gold later because you wont have items to keep. I dunno I have yet to try but looks good. Definitely +1
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Gramps Tewks (27) | November 21, 2011 12:47pm
Wow! Great stuff here.

So many viable builds/roles for a severely underestimated champion!

+1
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Golleitrian (23) | November 20, 2011 2:06pm
+1 all i was waiting for it was the new video for jungling.
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meadowfrey | November 19, 2011 3:51am
Nice guide
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Taneren (177) | November 15, 2011 10:26pm
lockpickx2 wrote:

i like all of it jungle really does work

Nice, thanks for the +1. But I wonder, when you jungling do you take 1 wraith or all 4 before the first recall?
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lockpickx2 | November 15, 2011 2:25pm
i like all of it jungle really does work
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Taneren (177) | November 15, 2011 8:29am
Sk1llbug wrote:

Nice overview, you go indeep on almost everything. Upvote and +Rep :D

Thank you ;) It also took me a while to get this one done.
Only 10% more rating and I'll be able to lie beside the current top 3's.

-Taneren
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Sk1llbug (41) | November 15, 2011 6:12am
Nice overview, you go indeep on almost everything. Upvote and +Rep :D
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Taneren (177) | November 11, 2011 5:56am

A really cool gude. I really liked, that you adressed all manners of using Taric, since I was looking for some alternative guides.

A few things tthat might be missing:

1. First, I think, that it would be great if you also adressed people who are not yet lv30, but still wish to play Taric aka. wich masteries to prioritize, what runes are decent enough for their levels to use.

2. About your AP build: First thing I noticed was, that you didn't take the Ignite mastery, personally I think that 10 extra AP is always helpful especially if you then decide to use Ignite first, then finish the combo (not recommended). Also, activating your shatter might be better to use earlier if you already have Sheen/Lich Bane.

Otherwise, great guide, I'm looking foorward to using all of these in-game and I'm giving you a +1 for this, becouse I think you've made a great guide and that id deserves the attention, so people are showed, that taric is more than just a support that is oftenly picked in the bot team in pve.

Thank you for the critisism and the +1.
I'll be updating my guide soon again, I'm not really sure how to place in a part about playing Taric for those who are not above lvl 20 atleast. Maybe if you could give me a tip or two? And about the Sheen, I might do as you say and push it forward in my build. But I'm in doubt if I should place it between Kage's Lucky Pick Kage's Lucky Pick and Sorcerer's Shoes or Sorcerer's Shoes and Deathfire Grasp.
And well, I know that it could be smart to shatter and autohit before using the rest of my combo. But as I see it, your damage will in both auto-hits (stacked with Sheen/Lich bane) and Shatter give more damage, when your ultimate Radiance is activated.
So unless you're only poking, use your ultimate first, when you know the kill is assured.

A quick note about me not picking Burning Embers for the ignite.
Personally I think it's a good mastery to get, but it's just not suitable for my playstyle. First of all, I would have to switch it out with either Archaic Knowledge, or Presence of the master. I find these two much more important, than the 10+ ability power when my ignite is on cooldown. Most of all, because I like to safe my ignite for the actual killing blow, and not just pop it early on the enemy to gain easier control over the lane.

-Taneren.
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Neo Daedalus (2) | November 11, 2011 3:46am
A really cool gude. I really liked, that you adressed all manners of using Taric, since I was looking for some alternative guides.

A few things tthat might be missing:

1. First, I think, that it would be great if you also adressed people who are not yet lv30, but still wish to play Taric aka. wich masteries to prioritize, what runes are decent enough for their levels to use.

2. About your AP build: First thing I noticed was, that you didn't take the Ignite mastery, personally I think that 10 extra AP is always helpful especially if you then decide to use Ignite first, then finish the combo (not recommended). Also, activating your shatter might be better to use earlier if you already have Sheen/Lich Bane.

Otherwise, great guide, I'm looking foorward to using all of these in-game and I'm giving you a +1 for this, becouse I think you've made a great guide and that id deserves the attention, so people are showed, that taric is more than just a support that is oftenly picked in the bot team in pve.
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Taneren (177) | November 9, 2011 7:10am
wcoolx wrote:

Nice guide +1, I like that you explain all your choices it helps a lot. Can't really find a lot to criticize, Nice job.

Thank you, means alot to me :D
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wcoolx (3) | November 7, 2011 7:47am
Nice guide +1, I like that you explain all your choices it helps a lot. Can't really find a lot to criticize, Nice job.
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Taneren (177) | November 2, 2011 8:46am
I had alot of +1 votes recently, and I appreciate it alot. But I was wondering if anyone could be kind and leave a comment on why they actually upvote my guide, and if there is anything I need to improve?
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Taneren (177) | October 28, 2011 5:43pm
Yeah, we do. And thank you. You should check your own guide, I made a re-post on your comments from here.
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Golleitrian (23) | October 28, 2011 2:39pm
BTW I like what you say about tank Taric. We have the same opinion on that part.
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Golleitrian (23) | October 28, 2011 2:37pm
Good aside from that, I realy like your build. When that is fixed I would like to poste a link from my guide to yours in the jungle section. Your jungle build is the first one that I see that isn't a ''Mom, I wanna be like Warwike/Master YI/Lee sin when I get older''.
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girafen | October 25, 2011 4:19am
PS, I'm on my alt account, since I can't log on Taneren for some reason. I am working on it, and will have it back within 24hours.
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girafen | October 25, 2011 4:18am
That was a minor mistake, that I'm working on to get fixed for now. I had the wrong runes at the moment which caused me to die every single time I attempted to clear the jungle out taking all 4 wraiths at once. When I get a decent recording program I will reload a better video showing you a better jungle route taking x4 wraiths in the start.
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Golleitrian (23) | October 24, 2011 4:45pm
I would like to know the math behind ur reason for only killing the bleu wrath on your first go.
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Taneren (177) | October 22, 2011 5:44am
--Saving this spot--
EDIT: Woah, 75% already? :O Thank you so much everyone! I was in doubt of how this guide would turn out.
EDIT: Alright, that's it! I'm turning on comments to vote, I'm happy about all the positive votes, and thank you. But I really want someone to explain what they like, and dislike.

Can some of you please leave a comment, when voting? To tell me what you like, and if there is anything I need to improve.
EDIT: 88% Sharing top 1, Thank you to everyone who voted this guide up :D It really means alot to me, knowing that I made a good guide, and I hope to improve it even more in the nearby future :)

-Taneren.