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Shyvana Build Guide by fortheviolence

Tank The Mixtape That Set Top Lane Ablaze (Top Smite Guide)

Tank The Mixtape That Set Top Lane Ablaze (Top Smite Guide)

Updated on July 11, 2015
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Uslish (1) | June 3, 2015 4:31am
Hi dude! That's a nice guide, ty for sharing your experience :) I just wanted to ask you something, can you add top lane match up ? Who she is good against, weak against etc. Anyway good guide ;) Ty again!
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fortheviolence | May 3, 2015 5:19pm
cinas wrote:


dont you think that more cdr on your w gives you more "sticking" potential? then i disabling spell which can be popped by non cc spells?


No because you can get up to a 4 second extension on burnout just by auto attacking, with a 10% cdr Burnout. If you have to activate it twice then at that point then it already took you too long to kill the ADC. You have two slows with 3 items to begin with. Spirit visage is now a core item in the guide due to the bork changes anyway, so the CDR is there if you really want it.
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cinas | May 3, 2015 1:19pm



Because this build thrives on sticking to the adc and either killing or keeping them out of the fight. Bork is your only sustain tool and spirit visage doesn't add much to that. Banshee's will make it harder to peel you or kite you.

dont you think that more cdr on your w gives you more "sticking" potential? then i disabling spell which can be popped by non cc spells?
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fortheviolence | May 3, 2015 10:20am
LyteChai wrote:

I have to agree about Spirit Visage and just how good it is on Shyvana. In the newest patch, Blade of the Ruined King's onhit now procs lifesteal. Since you're running hybrid pen runes, that's going to make it hit harder, thus more sustain from the combination of Spirit Visage and Blade of the Ruined King. Banshee's Veil is a bit more situational; it is great for going up against Amumu or say Malphite, but it's also easily popped by anything, meaning it could be down when that Unstoppable Force comes flying at your team.

Still, I want to see this finished, I've been considering top/smite Shyvana, and tips are always nice :)


I actually agree with that now, It's going to be part of the next revision. Thank you for your input, and keep checking back!
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LyteChai (7) | May 3, 2015 9:35am
I have to agree about Spirit Visage and just how good it is on Shyvana. In the newest patch, Blade of the Ruined King's onhit now procs lifesteal. Since you're running hybrid pen runes, that's going to make it hit harder, thus more sustain from the combination of Spirit Visage and Blade of the Ruined King. Banshee's Veil is a bit more situational; it is great for going up against Amumu or say Malphite, but it's also easily popped by anything, meaning it could be down when that Unstoppable Force comes flying at your team.

Still, I want to see this finished, I've been considering top/smite Shyvana, and tips are always nice :)
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fortheviolence | April 29, 2015 11:50am
MrMad2000 wrote:

What I meant by maxing Flame Breath is that it can be maxed if you're vs a ranged opponent since it deals good base damage, it can be used to harass in lane and it also deals decent damage to jungle monsters so you're not loosing out on too much damage if you are gonna do krugs/gromp (depending on which side you're on) whilst minions aren't in lane.


Makes sense, I'll include it as an option when I publish the next revision. thanks for the feedback
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MrMad2000 (41) | April 29, 2015 11:13am
What I meant by maxing Flame Breath is that it can be maxed if you're vs a ranged opponent since it deals good base damage, it can be used to harass in lane and it also deals decent damage to jungle monsters so you're not loosing out on too much damage if you are gonna do krugs/gromp (depending on which side you're on) whilst minions aren't in lane.
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fortheviolence | April 29, 2015 11:10am
MrMad2000 wrote:

- Your cheatsheet is messy and too short. Some people will only glance at the guide whilst loading into the game so they'll look at the items and notes. You need to give explanations within the notes and give alternatives. Elixers? Splitpush Jungle Shyvana build maybe?

- Shyvana's AOE damage isn't really within a big radius, her dueling/waveclear power is strong but she is more of a single target champion. Also, in your Cons you've said she "can't" fall behind. Isn't that a pro?

- You want to use BBC coding which links back to the mobafire database to make your guide more visual and appealing. A wall of text is boring to read. You've given explanations and an overview of her but there is a lack of grammar, punctuation and spelling. You can find the BBC coding guide by clicking here.
  • Your Q is an auto-attack reset, not just an auto-attack enhancer.. Twin Bite can also be used on towers.
  • Burnout does a huge amount of damage to jungle monsters, but with Blade of the Ruined King and Flame Breath possibly being maxed first (since jungle monstors have a lot of health) this could improve your clear time vs camps such as Gromp and allow you to siege and poke more effectively in early game skirmishes. This also allows you to farm against ranged top laners such as Vladimir so that you don't take too much damage since Flame Breath allows you to be in safety-range? You can also do Krugs whilst you're waiting for the minions to reach lane if you're pushing.
  • Dragon's Descent can also be used as a peel ability or as an ability in order to interupt channels such as Janna's Monsoon.
  • Thornmail in cheat sheet but not in main part of guide (item section).
  • Ruby Crystal start? Why not a Doran's Blade or Doran's Shield? Maybe a Cloth Armor + 5 Health Potion's would be good against early game attack damage lane bullies such as Lee Sin? Just give 2 alternative stats to your main " Ruby Crystal 2 pots start.
  • Releasing unfinished guides will generally result in downvotes before it is even finished. Try and release guides when 70% is done and you're finishing off small sections or a matchups section.


I've addressed the lack of bb coding in the bottom of the guide. It's still a work in progress, you're not the first to point out the plain look of the guide. Also maxing flame breathe first for clearing camps does not work. Burnout does a lot more damage to camps, and like I stated in the guide gromp is very important for tank junglers in this meta, so you shouldn't clear it just because you want too. You should ask first. If people want to downvote, I don't have an issue with that. I'm not here for notoriety or fame, I'm here to help spread a little information and educate people and help myself become a better player.
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divic (13) | April 29, 2015 4:50am
MrMad2000 wrote:

[*] Ruby Crystal start? Why not a Doran's Blade or Doran's Shield? Maybe a Cloth Armor + 5 Health Potion's would be good against early game attack damage lane bullies such as Lee Sin? Just give 2 alternative stats to your main " Ruby Crystal 2 pots start.


This is guide for Smite-top, which starts with Ruby Crystal, not a classic shyvana which might start with something else. You want to get Skirmisher's Sabre fast and preferably also Cinderhulk, but it's not worth it to buy Hunter's Machete first. (this is from my experience, I am not a top, I am jungler, but my team plays with smite-top.)

Yes, would be great to get
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on text-chapters for some visuals and I still recommend hitting space few times for that laning-chapter.
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MrMad2000 (41) | April 28, 2015 2:40pm
- Your cheatsheet is messy and too short. Some people will only glance at the guide whilst loading into the game so they'll look at the items and notes. You need to give explanations within the notes and give alternatives. Elixers? Splitpush Jungle Shyvana build maybe?

- Shyvana's AOE damage isn't really within a big radius, her dueling/waveclear power is strong but she is more of a single target champion. Also, in your Cons you've said she "can't" fall behind. Isn't that a pro?

- You want to use BB coding which links back to the mobafire database to make your guide more visual and appealing. A wall of text is boring to read. You've given explanations and an overview of her but there is a lack of grammar, punctuation and spelling. You can find the BB coding guide by clicking here.
  • Your Q is an auto-attack reset, not just an auto-attack enhancer.. Twin Bite can also be used on towers.
  • Burnout does a huge amount of damage to jungle monsters, but with Blade of the Ruined King and Flame Breath possibly being maxed first (since jungle monstors have a lot of health) this could improve your clear time vs camps such as Gromp and allow you to siege and poke more effectively in early game skirmishes. This also allows you to farm against ranged top laners such as Vladimir so that you don't take too much damage since Flame Breath allows you to be in safety-range? You can also do Krugs whilst you're waiting for the minions to reach lane if you're pushing.
  • Dragon's Descent can also be used as a peel ability or as an ability in order to interupt channels such as Janna's Monsoon.
  • Thornmail in cheat sheet but not in main part of guide (item section).
  • Ruby Crystal start? Why not a Doran's Blade or Doran's Shield? Maybe a Cloth Armor + 5 Health Potion's would be good against early game attack damage lane bullies such as Lee Sin? Just give 2 alternative stats to your main " Ruby Crystal 2 pots start.
  • Releasing unfinished guides will generally result in downvotes before it is even finished. Try and release guides when 70% is done and you're finishing off small sections or a matchups section.
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fortheviolence | April 28, 2015 2:21pm
divic wrote:

Imo in 9 of 10 Spirit Visage is better than Banshee's Veil, but maybe it's just me.

You could get visuals of that Laning-chapter a bit better. I guess that's still the one that interests people the most. A lots of people want to play smite-top but don't know how. / From what I have seen while smurfing. Currently that chapter is pretty huge block of text, try to make it a bit easier to read.

I would also like some sort of explanation of when to jungle and when to lane and when to save smite for enemy toplaner. (you got sabre, sick in 1v1) Which levels are your power spikes? When do you want to attack? How do you react on your jungler's ganks when you got no flash. Just few more ideas you could think about.



First of all, thank you for taking the time to read the guide and giving feedback. I will definitely take those suggestions to heart. The guide is not complete however, I encourage you to critique the existing information. Also there is a disclaimer section at the bottom of the guide stating that I'am aware that the guide doesn't look the most glamorous and I will be organizing it once I have published all the information.

To touch up on your response, Spirit Visage gives you very little mileage as shyvana, She has no built in sustain or regeneration tools. The only sustain you will be building is off of blade of the ruined king which is small, especially since you're not a full ad damage threat. You're more of a hybrid damage dealing tank. The cool down reduction is decent, but the 10% isn't that effective on it's own. Your ultimate builds off of rage, not a cooldown timer, and your Twin bite refreshes off of auto attacks. Shyvana is easily kite able and peel able, having a spell shield to block the next incoming spell is big when you're trying to zone or kill the ad carry. . Which is the whole point of going smite top and building a bork and a thornmail. It will also make your ultimate safer, you won't be as easily interrupted when initiating a fight with it No one should be playing this with the explicit goal of trying to peel, or just be disruptive in team fights. Those are situational choices, not the reason to lock this in during champion select.
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