Talon Build Guide by RCIX
Build Guide
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Just pop in a GA and you now have Shushei Talon. +scouted.   Dominion 101 Coming Soon! | Would appreciate some rep if I helped you. |
 Nighthawk <Veteran> Distinguished (577) Posts: 8591 Joined: 2010-12-07 IGN: Eo Ut Mortus on NA on NA View My Blog |
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Nighthawk wrote:
Just pop in a GA and you now have Shushei Talon. +scouted. My thoughts exactly, I gave it a +scout a good while ago :) 
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 Xenasis <Scout> Prominent (164) Posts: 2457 Joined: 2011-01-14 IGN: Xenasis on EUW View My Blog |
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MajorLoL wrote:
Well I see what you mean. The guide itself is pretty good, but I wouldn't get Shurelya's on  Talon, leave that to supports. Also you should get more consistent damage with some CDR. If you didn't have enough burst to kill somebody, afterwards they'll just destroy you.Thus the shurelya >.> That plus the 15% base (masteries, runes) puts you at 30%, and I used to have a Soul Shroud in there as well to CDR cap it. Toss in the health, sustain (talon likes some sustain early, and the mp5 is lovely mid/lategame), and active, and you have a really good but non-conventional choice. MyRepublic wrote:
This guide is pretty sexy. You should add a "Champs you might meet" section if you really want it to shine. I'm not sure I agree with you on the triple The Bloodthirsters but if you say it works then it probably does. Have you thought about adding The Black Cleaver into there? 45 armor redux after three hits is pretty useful. Think about it like this. If they have 100 armor (which I doubt they will if they're an AP caster) it is brought down to 55. Now what do you think is more damage? The answer is the black cleaver. Maybe buy 2 bloodthirsters and 1 black cleaver as this will make the bloodthirsters even more usefull. Just my two cents. I'll vote up though as it's too gorgeous not to. I kinda dislike Cleaver as you need those 3 hits to cap it, so that's gonna take you ~2.5 seconds (since you don't itemize for AS otherwise) and 2.5 seconds tacked onto a burst combo is a looooong time for someone to pull off an escape or burst you down. Or you could do the capping during/after the combo (ideal talon combo involves a pair of AAs), but at that point you're not getting the full armor shred in time. Plus it only gives half of the AD of a bloodthirster, and only really 15 more than a LW. Thanks for the vote! :3 Again, thanks all for the positive feedback! This helped so much in motivating me :D I'm currently hammering out the last 20% of a Fiora guide, then I'll get back to this one and give it a round of spitshine. Things like a matchups section, tweaking some stuff (forgot what exactly, but it's on the previous page of comments), adding in more info on where you should send him, do a detailed explanation of why I don't like sending him top or jungle, toss in some mathcraft about why IE sucks... Also, wat ees scout point? Does it contribute to getting the guide featured or something?
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RCIX Unremarkable (7) Posts: 274 Joined: 2012-01-18 IGN: RCIX on NA |
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RCIX wrote:
Also, wat ees scout point? Does it contribute to getting the guide featured or something? Yeah. If you get 5, it gets featured. I won't tell you how many you've got since that would defeat the point of you not being able to see them. It also increases its visibility to other scouts, as they can see what other scouts gave a scout point too.
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Xenasis <Scout> Prominent (164) Posts: 2457 Joined: 2011-01-14 IGN: Xenasis on EUW View My Blog |
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*crosses fingers*
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RCIX Unremarkable (7) Posts: 274 Joined: 2012-01-18 IGN: RCIX on NA |
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Masteries are bad. Really bad.
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 Searz <Veteran> Distinguished (373) Posts: 10244 Joined: 2010-06-06 IGN: Searz on EUW |
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Searz wrote:
Masteries are bad. Really bad. ArP marks>AD marks (ESPECIALLY since you don't build crit). Tried them? Ill also see if i can write a section on CDR vs arpen and how it relates to my item/mastery choices (shurelya's, brut, etc.) In any case, I hear a new item is coming for AD casters, so don't expect the guide updates to be finished before next Tuesday. Or maybe i will finish it, but then do another mini-update then. Maybe I'll just switch it to 21/9/0 or 21/0/9 default just to quiet everyone giving me flak about the choice of masteries i prefer.
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RCIX Unremarkable (7) Posts: 274 Joined: 2012-01-18 IGN: RCIX on NA |
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I agree that we need more AD caster friendly items. Well, we still have a Bloodthirster. Stack up that damage, no better option. I have to be honest though, I like Black Cleaver on him so I can drop turrets pretty quickly with all the AD. Personal habitual activites? Utilizing gargantuan idioms to fabricate intelligence.
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 animorte Notable (41) Posts: 1787 Joined: 2010-09-30 IGN: Animorte on NA View My Blog |
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Just one thing: Muffins. |
 DrywallDan Posts: 0 Joined: 2012-03-26 |
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Tried the build and only works if your team is good because with no defense you get melted like ****-fast. If you have enough gold to buy that many bloodthirsters you should get an IE or even a triforce. The guide itself is nice but item choice is... not god-like. |
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