Talon Build Guide by FlavoRTowN

Overall, a pretty good guide. However, as a religious Talon player who has also made a guide (not on MOBAFIRE) I would offer some other options for you to consider and point out a few things you can add to your guide.

First of all, I run with Armor Pen / AD Marks, Mana/lvl Seals, flat Cooldown Reduction Glyphs, and flat Attack Damage Quints. Allow me to explain my reasoning. Armor pen is always good, but see below for my Last Whisper discussion. Mana/lvl Seals scale much better and break even with Replenishment seals around level 5 or 6. Besides, you shouldn't be spamming Rake every time it's off cooldown. I use flat CDR Glyphs because with the 15% from Ionians, 15% from Ghostblade, and 4% from masteries, you're still only at 34% CDR. With the 5.89% (if I'm not mistaken) the game will round that up and register 40% CDR. Since Talon scales AMAZINGLY well with AD, flat AD quints are a good option instead of Armor Pen. Yes, Armor Pen scales better into late game, but I feel a better early game makes for a better late game. Again, see my discussion about Last Whisper below. It increases all of his damage output and makes last hitting a bit easier, both with auto-attacks and abilities. As far as build goes, I completely agree that Ghostblade, Bloodthirster, and Ionian are core, getting Merc's if they have tons of CC. However, I believe you should also include Infinity Edge in there. Remember, Q can crit (I didn't see that mentioned, but I'm rather tired, so this could be an oversight on my part) and you already get some crit chance from Ghostblade.

Also, in your discussion about Trinity vs. IE, I believe you forgot to factor in the DoT that accompanies it (again, very tired, so I could be mistaken). In that case, IE comes out slightly ahead unless my math is off. As a side note, getting both Trinity and IE will make IE all the more effective.

Lastly, (I didn't see this mentioned anywhere) Last Whisper's % penetration is calculated last. According to the League of Legends Wiki, Armor is calculated by: Percentage armor reduction > Flat armor reduction > Flat armor penetration > Percentage armor penetration. This is the primary reason that I prefer AD Quints, and, occasionally, Marks.

Masteries: I haven't done the numbers, but it might be worth sacrificing 2 AD from Brute Force and putting it into Butcher for even easier last hitting. I also think you should throw the points that you have in Hardiness over into Swiftness. That's 2/3 of a MS quint right there and MS is a very powerful stat for both chasing and escaping.

An extra trick: I did a test against bots and then in an actual game, but I didn't take any screenshots to back up my findings. Rake will slow through the effect of Banshee's Veil. The first time through will pop it and the second time through will deal damage and slow. Be sure to note that! It can give you an advantage over your opponents if you exploit it!

Anyways, take my advice for what it's worth and update your guide as you see fit. After all, it IS your guide and this is just my opinion and observations. Everything works differently for everyone else, but this is what I find works quite well for me and I felt like sharing my knowledge and opinions with you in the hopes that you can improve your guide to a very high quality. Thanks for actually taking the time to read this essay of a comment. Best of luck and happy gaming!

-Heolfrig

I'm kind of iffy on your item picks. Somewhere in this build (the noxian diplomacy description), you say this is a crit based build. But you have no infinity edge. While I agree that t-force is better, what if you had both? That would be a lot of AD, but your talon, and everything you do is based off AD burst. Other than that, I love the boot choice, youmuu's, thirster, and last whisper- though still on the fence about gaurdian angel and shurelya's.

Great guide. Works very well. Thank you for clearing up the difference between infinity edge and trinity force.
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Hmmm i went into talon very wrong with Pdancers and Bloodthirsters but this feels so much better AWESOME GUIDE MAN!

Awesome guide, but I have a question.

Usually, i go solo top with Talon and in some cases i ran out of health due to harassment, lack of potions and ganks, so i'm wondering if wrigle's lantern would be any good on him in those conditions ?

nice guide. 18/7/18 first time. Thanks !

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Just one question, you say that we shouldnt get frozen mallet cause it only gives you +10% damage with i totally agree with is chump, but what if you want it because of the hp. It does damage and slows as a bonus with the hp. Just because it's not that much the hp could be useful just in case there is a burst that is a faster clicker then you.

Edit-sorry i said one question and i never put the actual question. Why do we not get frozen mallet when you think of what i said?

Can anyone give me some additional tips on how to use Shadow Assault (R)? I keep failing miserably whenever I try to use it.

BTW great guide! Apart from my Shadow Assault issues I generally do pretty well.

Another question why do you get gaurdian angel because whenever i get and i die with talon, they just wait for me to get back up and kill no matter what i do they just kill i can never get away with it....