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League of Legends Build Guide Author Asaki

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Asaki Last updated on May 17, 2012
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Asaki (13) | May 17, 2012 6:18am
Way to downvote a guide because your friend told you to. Explain what's wrong about the cons, explain what's wrong about the masteries, explain what's wrong about my opposition to GP/10, and then come back.

And have you ever played Irelia? Irelia has the hardest time trying to keep Nasus from farming, because she has such a shallow mana pool -- thus she can't harass as much as she would need to. I mean, high elo Irelia players, such as Mad****Brown and SaucyBeast would agree with me in this respect (Nasus vs Irelia)
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Ricke (1) | May 17, 2012 4:50am
Voted -1
I'll vote this guide down because i find a couple of bad things in this guide and not enough good things.

For example, the Cons are TERRIBLE! Not a thing right if you ask me..
And the Masteries... Too bad to even speak about!
And your opinion of the GP/10-items.. It's not okay. Those items are extremly necessary early game!
And it will only help you in mid and late too!

And the last thing.. Nasus is EASY to own in lane. Just kill him early and keep him away from the farm and he'll be like a puppy!

So DOWN TO YOU MY FRIEND! Write a better guide next time...
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Arcana3 (108) | May 16, 2012 11:04pm
Voted +1
Good detail... Agree with most things, not all, but a good majorty...
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Asaki (13) | May 16, 2012 9:54pm
Thanks Keondre! :D
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Keondre (221) | May 16, 2012 7:59pm
Voted +1
OO Just had to upvote looking at those comments in the QQ thread.
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Tutpup (2) | May 16, 2012 5:22pm
Voted -1
Next time you might not want to vote down my guide just because you think that I think that I'm better then the pros or that I think that my way is better then any others way. All I said is that it works best for me and I myself haven't lost with it. Yes I've lost games with Irelia, but that doesn't mean I lost in my lane. Yes I've lost lanes with Irelia, but not after I got my build/strat togetehr. I don't want to be rude in anyway, but for you to come and tell me that I'm doing my sh*t wrong and then leave several comments about basically the same thing and then vote down my guide is just wrong. Well an eye for an eye. I really hope you felt that you accomplished something by doing this.
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IceCreamy (448) | May 15, 2012 1:34am
New ratings:

Appearance: 8/10
Cheat Sheet: 8/10
Contents: 9/10

An overall 8,3. I am having trouble with the cheat sheet and you could do some work to improve the visual aspect of your guide, but for the rest it is awesome!
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Asaki (13) | May 14, 2012 6:41am
Yeah, did some calculations, found that Greater Mark of Desolation and Greater Quintessence of Attack Damage would be my preferred rune set, with a decently strong early game with good late-game power. New calculations in the math section will be done accordingly, and I will alphabetize my lane match-ups, adding Fiora and Nidalee as soon as possible.
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Asaki (13) | May 13, 2012 3:12pm
IceCreamy wrote:

+ I really enjoy your use of BBCoding.
+ Love your match up lists. You might want to sort them alphabetically though!

- 1 Cheat Sheet please!
- Weirdest masteries on all builds.
- Greater Mark of Scaling Attack Damage is bad.

Not so many tips, but I think that if you fix them and add a little bit more visuals you will earn my Scout Point because the contents make up for everything ;) My ratings:

Appearance: 8/10
Cheat Sheet: 6/10
Contents: 9/10

An overall 7,7, an upvote it is :)


Well, at the very least, I can only bring it to 2 different sheets, because they're 2 completely different builds with different masteries, spells, and items. Honestly, I haven't used Marks of Might much recently, but I remember doing calculations proving their superiority over flat AD and ARP at midgame, level 7-11. The weird masteries are somewhat explained in the mastery sections, but I'll do a better job.
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Valarison | May 13, 2012 2:47pm
Now I added a +1 rep cuz you answered my question. <3 I feel like I should say that I tried it, and yes it works beautifully (ignite + executioner's calling is enough time to completely shut him down). You know you're a success when the most common phrase in the chat log is "**** you Irelia." x)
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IceCreamy (448) | May 13, 2012 2:23pm
Voted +1
+ I really enjoy your use of BBCoding.
+ Love your match up lists. You might want to sort them alphabetically though!

- 1 Cheat Sheet please!
- Weirdest masteries on all builds.
- Greater Mark of Scaling Attack Damage is bad.

Not so many tips, but I think that if you fix them and add a little bit more visuals you will earn my Scout Point because the contents make up for everything ;) My ratings:

Appearance: 8/10
Cheat Sheet: 6/10
Contents: 9/10

An overall 7,7, an upvote it is :)
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Asaki (13) | May 13, 2012 1:12pm
Thanks for your comment. The reason why I don't recommend AS marks/quints is because at one point in time, I did the math comparing AD/level marks + AD quints, flat AD, and AS, and AS only won out briefly in the 6 seconds or so Hiten was active (by 30 or so damage), but was surpassed by AD/level + AD quints and Flat AD after this duration. Maybe I'll bring my math for AS marks/quints into this guide.
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albableat (147) | May 13, 2012 12:46pm
Voted +1
^
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albableat (147) | May 13, 2012 12:46pm
This is a very very good, in-depth guide. I like all the Wickd vids, especially the ButButButIly interview with him. Those UltIn10 episodes are amazingly informational.

I'm seriously seeing more and more fun in Irelia and I might as well end up and buying her.

Your champ matchup section is very good. I'm also glad you did the math to show the efficiency of your build. It's very convincing.

I would probably use a different rune/masteries setup (I prefer 25% AS marks/quints for their synergy with Hiten Style) I think you should add that as an option.
Also, I prefer classic 9-21-0 for even more CCR with Juggernaut , but your setup makes sense since you explain it well.

I'm definitely upvoting and +rep'ing you for this great guide.
Not scouting since I don't even own Irelia and don't have much experience with her to mark this guide as a 100% good, working and recommended. I just don't like scouting stuff that I'm not proficient at ;)
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Asaki (13) | May 13, 2012 5:24am
It's quite easy. But first, you have to either wait for your ignite to be up, or buy Executioner's Blade which also happens to be the most cost efficient life-steal item in the game right now. Just pop your ignite or use the executioner's blade active, and laugh as his lifesteal is cut to only 25℅, something you can deal with. In all honesty, I hate Mundo more, because he basically never has to B because of his ult.
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Valarison | May 12, 2012 12:27pm
Voted +1
The whole thing works pretty well - I always wondered why my assassin Irelia failed so bad; maybe it's cuz she's meant as an off-tank. Only thing I'd add is one more champ to the danger/caution list: Sion . Bust Sion before he hits 6, or not at all, cuz he becomes unkillable with that ult. Any tips on countering that undead menace? x)
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Asaki (13) | May 8, 2012 4:08pm
Well, there's also a difference in masteries, but I'll see what I can do about that.
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jhoijhoi (1892) | May 8, 2012 3:52pm
I think that a good Irelia should be able to counter Nasus. You should be getting Merc treads on her anyway. I've literally had people say to me, "Pft, I need no wards, I'm Irelia" referring to her indestructibality when ganked. Perhaps the best way to beat Nasus in lane is to ignore him completely, just farm off. Your Q isn't affected by Wither, so you're still free to bounce around the lane scoring last hits. Just don't engage in a fight you think you may not be able to handle.

Regarding your guide: As literally the only difference between the first two builds is the marks, I would delete the first build. Your standard build has no armour penetration , so I'd say the greater Mark of Desolation are necessary to hurt the enemy Carries .

Good luck with your guide :)
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Asaki (13) | May 8, 2012 8:36am
When I try to harass Nasus, it burns through my mana quickly, and he gets it back in short order. I've never been able to beat a Nasus on my own skill level. What's even more annoying is that once he gets to level 6, he gets his "get out of jail free" card, and you can't keep sticking to him, because by that time, he'd have gotten to his tower, or just by the sheer power of the magic damage per second aura.

Not only that, but Irelia is an auto-attack based champion, and Nasus's Wither ***** on her auto attacks.
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jhoijhoi (1892) | May 8, 2012 2:06am
Voted +1
Do you really think Nasus beats Irelia in lane?
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Asaki (13) | May 7, 2012 10:29am
Thanks for the review. I've attempted to take your advice to heart, but I'd like to know how I might be able to make my text more visually appealing without turning it into a wall of neon.
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Icuonuez (36) | May 6, 2012 2:26pm
Voted +1
If you plan on trying to make a different guide for Irelia, you should explain why you don't get the items most Irelia players do. You're not going to convince anyone if you're not trying to.

Nasus isn't really a hard counter for Irelia. Try as he might, he just can't trade blows with Irelia and still farm effectively. Nasus has to be one of the easiest solo-top champions to shut down. Hard counters for Irelia would be Olaf, for example. She just can't trade blows with Olaf and expect to stay in lane without being killed.

I think your guide could use a bit more color. Giving champions a "color code" can sometimes make the guide look more aesthetically pleasing.

Overall, I think this guide could use some work. It is, however, very detailed and in-depth. +1 from me.
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thenewera | May 4, 2012 8:32pm
Voted +1
ok
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Asaki (13) | May 1, 2012 1:14am
Thanks for catching that mistake.
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DRAFTINGBOY123 | April 30, 2012 10:29pm
Why take cleanse against ww? Last time I checked, Cleanse doesn't remove suppression, only QSS does. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Asaki (13) | April 28, 2012 3:16pm

meh its okay. But tbh the build is more tanky dps which means your squishier. you dont have good resistances by late game which is pretty dangerous. Unless you're fed, ull finish mallet and atma's by the end of mid game. Probably another mr item there to make sure a champ with an early bloodrazon doesnt make a feast outta you.

Tried ur build. Its good really. But in higher elo ranked games people make sure irelia is shut down by early game. a philo stone and hog help you during early game a lot, especially during tough scenario's. Don't rant about how gp/5 items are bad on her. Already saw your argument on another build somewhere. You got a point but unless you actually experience how players work up there, words and reasoning wont cut it.

Downvoting cuz I really expected the guide to be great. Seeing on how you like to rant on other players for their guides, i though yours would be top notch. Got disappointed really. The main build you got there is hard to come by in higher ranked games, poor visual appeal on the guide. No matter how much stuff the guide has, it doesn't matter if you don't make it as visually appealing.

Work on that and maybe I'll come by and upvote it instead.


Well, maybe you could help me by saying what exactly isn't visually appealing. You may think my build is "squishy", but think about it:

Magic Resistance and Armor are a multiplier of HP. Say you had 140 magic resist and 4000 HP. (140+100)/100 = 2.4, your multiplier of HP. 2.4x4000 = 9600 "effective HP". If you went with 2700 HP with 200 MR, you would only have 8100 effective HP. And did you watch Ult in 10? He was obviously playing ranked. Was he shut down? No.
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PlatinumSims | April 28, 2012 11:22am
Voted -1
meh its okay. But tbh the build is more tanky dps which means your squishier. you dont have good resistances by late game which is pretty dangerous. Unless you're fed, ull finish mallet and atma's by the end of mid game. Probably another mr item there to make sure a champ with an early bloodrazon doesnt make a feast outta you.

Tried ur build. Its good really. But in higher elo ranked games people make sure irelia is shut down by early game. a philo stone and hog help you during early game a lot, especially during tough scenario's. Don't rant about how gp/5 items are bad on her. Already saw your argument on another build somewhere. You got a point but unless you actually experience how players work up there, words and reasoning wont cut it.

Downvoting cuz I really expected the guide to be great. Seeing on how you like to rant on other players for their guides, i though yours would be top notch. Got disappointed really. The main build you got there is hard to come by in higher ranked games, poor visual appeal on the guide. No matter how much stuff the guide has, it doesn't matter if you don't make it as visually appealing.

Work on that and maybe I'll come by and upvote it instead.
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Pikachu Hat (3) | April 28, 2012 9:45am
Voted +1
The situational items are perfect. well done! +1
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Totallynotn00b (45) | April 28, 2012 3:46am
Voted +1
Welp. You've demonstrated a willingness to make the guide better, to which it's solid enough as it is.

Just a few closing comments.

1) Probably need a little more around the team-fighting sections, prioritising targets, etc.
2) Udyr comes to mind as missing from the match ups.
3) You happily inject some humour into the Pros and Con's in your guide. This is good, but more of it is better! =D

But really. Good work, and have fun!
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Asaki (13) | April 27, 2012 8:28pm
I guess not. I'm basically only going on the thought that 9200 effective HP should be enough for anti-ap, as most of the damage will come from the AD carry. But I'll add situatiohal items against AP heavy teams. In addition, the assassin build has equal amounts of MR and armor.
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Pikachu Hat (3) | April 27, 2012 8:20pm
Its good, the only thing im wondering about is what items you would take if you found the team ap heavy since you dont say much about it.
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Asaki (13) | April 27, 2012 6:16pm
Well, about match-ups, I couldn't think of all match-ups at the time of writing, but I'm happy to add those. Even though I've played 400-500 games as Irelia, only recently I've seen Shen (the buff), Renekton isn't that popular of a champion, Lee Sin is normally played jungle (though I admit he can be played top), and Olaf just didn't come to mind at the time. Those contributed to the incompleteness of the match-up section. But thank you for offering your criticism on my guide. I will hurry and correct those problems.
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Totallynotn00b (45) | April 27, 2012 5:47pm
Hm. Ok.

Other things:

For the first item sequence, there's no wriggles lantern at all. - but you go onto mention it in the following few sections.

See, *you* find the Q-W-Q too mana intensive. But you know about it. It's a trick and something that isnt immediatley obvious to people who first pick up irelia.
So what "I" would do, is put it in, whilst explcitly stating its drawbacks. -For many items you do this, stating the pro's and cons, why not do the same with skills/tips?

Just two cents.

Oh, and I hope you're not modifying your guide to gain points for it's own sake - i hope you#re modifying it to make it better, and thus people think it deserves better.

I.e - the champion matchups. You have it, Good, but did you add those two because i mentioned it, or because its incomplete? I.e, at the moment it's still incomplete - Leesin, Olaf, shen and renekton immediately come to mind as tops which arent on that list.
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Asaki (13) | April 27, 2012 3:36pm
I believe it's finished, but I'll add match-up information for Vladimir and Kennen.

There's not many great tricks you can pull off with her skills, other than the one explained in the Trinity Force description.
For example, I remember reading a guide talking about the "Q-E-Q Trick" but I wouldn't put something in my guide that's so mana intensive. (30 for the first Q, if you get it right, 50 for the E, and 65 for the 2nd Q.) You burned through 145 mana (maybe a third or a fourth) to do maybe 150 damage, depending on how many auto attacks you got off. It's much more preferable to run up to the enemy, use E (it doesn't even matter if it's a stun or a slow, you'll be able to keep up with them), and start auto attacking with Hiten-empowered attacks.
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Totallynotn00b (45) | April 27, 2012 12:41pm
Is this finished?

Only two real issues I can see if it isn't is a lack of coverage of the now common ap tops - Vladimir and Kennen

Second, you have a skill sequence, but don't go into any real depth tips/tricks regarding said skills.

Apart from that, fairly solid. Videos of your own would have helped. But i understand that not everyone can do that.

Will vote depending on your reply.

Feel free to do the same, as per your forum post D=.
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Phil Collins (175) | April 26, 2012 8:45pm
Voted +1
Acceptable.
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Asaki (13) | April 26, 2012 5:12pm
My goal in putting points in Indomitable is two-fold:

Reduce minion damage
Early game, you might be facing people only doing 50-60 damage an autoattack, so that's basically like 4% damage reduction after armor.

I'm sorry about the song. I have another choice in mind though
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BluAnimal (32) | April 26, 2012 4:50pm
Voted +1
I don't agree with the mastery tree (mainly the two points in indomitable), and the items could be moved around or you could work a trinity force in there immediately or some gold per 5 items at the start. Other then that it looks good.

Oh and this song makes me want to punch kittens.
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iGod LoL (3) | April 25, 2012 7:03pm
Voted +1
+1 I don't know about the items or masteries but I like some of the detail in your guide, just do some work on testing new combos for Irelia and you might find yourself at the top of the leaderboards, if you could check out my build and possibly upvote? It would be much appreciated. :)
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mistermarshmallow | April 24, 2012 8:18pm
Voted +1
+1... so that's how that works
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mistermarshmallow | April 24, 2012 8:17pm
I'm just skimming through the guide here and there, and it all looks A-Okay to me, just that the lack of pictures, color, and negative (blank) space will probably scare people away x) I'll vote up so you are motivated to work on it more :) (If you have time check out my Irelia guide too ;)

Here's one thing you can use,
Code:
[icon=Hiten Style size=64]
will be and try reading up on how to implement columns
Code:
[columns][/columns]
and
Code:
[nextcol]
I think it will help your guide a lot :)
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Asaki (13) | April 24, 2012 6:44pm
I could post how to obtain the Holy Grail and no one would know >.>