Tristana Build Guide by NoobyPower

1. I think it does matter... But even it doesn t? so many players go with an extra Apen quint and two AD quints...I believe my suggestion is more balanced. So the debade is you want 18armor pen and 4.5 AD or 17 Apen and 5.4 AD, I prefer the latter

2.Ofc it does...Higher speed means more crit and it compliments with every other percentage in attack speed you got so far not to mention surge...
4. Don t neglect the fact that we have Summoner's Wrath mastery so we get a bit of a bonus selecting surge...TBH i m not a big fan of flash for that reason...take ghost instead.

3-5. 1v1 hardly wins the games...However smashing turrets and killing Drake/Baron in seconds...DOES!(period)

1. You lost me, isnt it 14.94 ArP and 6.75 AD vs 16.61 ArP and 5.45 AD? Either way this is a very minor difference.

2-4. Its too pricey and there are better items that would increase damage more. You may be putting a little too much value in attack speed.

3-5. Do not underestimate the importance of maintaining the position of power. If you are weaker than me I will keep you from getting CS. Though I do believe you mentioned earlier you play with Blitz in that case I probably would not be able to do so but you get what im trying to say right?

1)No I m comparing

(A)8xmarks+1quint Apen and 1mark 2quints AD
versus

(B)9marks+1quint Apen and 2quints AD which is one of the latest AD ranged carry most popular setups...

I believe it s important because due to the item purchace order Apen is lef behind for sometime

2)It s not just the attack speed...the item is a tankbuster, usually in team fights there is a prelude of attrition skirmishes before one of the tank dives. These attrition war is usually with tristana far back but still able to hit the frontliners...
So in my opinion this is important. A tank who takes damage in attrition will not be able to dive thus giving the first move advantage to my team.
Also it does 120 extra damage per hit on Baron...this is also very important bot for steals and for fast kill since u don t want your team to stay at baron cavern for long.

3)Attack speed with the longest range champion in game is super powerfull. Agreed that it s expensive. You have to be flexible and make your picks on item during the game. If i need something really fast I dgo for a bloodthirster. Also another drawback of the bloodrazor is that it needs three items all around 1k gold so it s difficult to complete in steps late game. I just said what is my ideal. I didn t say I go for that in everygame...it all depends on the situation

4) a)You are thinking only what s happening in your lane ... and there are many other factors like who is supporting, who is jungling, how much map info each side has...this is a team game. What I like in my built is it has some DEFACTO advantages like turret damage/objective damage.
b)about flash vs surge, again there are times that flash will fail miserably...on the other hand surge is surge...U also didn t answer about the thing that we get a bit of extra from surge because of "Summoner's wrath" mastery
c) Let s say u CS much better than me like 10 or 20 creeps more...if my teamates come and they force you back (not kill just force u recall in a bad momment)...that s it...say goodbye to that turret u guarding...So if you CS 20 more your team would still be down by quite alot.(depends on the phase of the game)

People focus on kills...but it is the overall strategy that wins not the kills.

Anyway this debade grows pointless...Between two good things what s better? flash is good it gives range. Surge is good it gives attack speed...Probably in your hands flash can be more effective and probably in mine surge will be preferable...It s all a matter of taste...

Love this guide man, you did a really great job 1+! :)

How many high elo trist players have you ever seen get Madreds Bloodrazer? Answer is likely 0. It doesn't work good on tanks unless they didnt pick up resist.

As for thinking about only whats going on in my lane..thats all that matters here. This is a build site to offer you a strong tristana. Given the right circumstances I can probably win leveling nothing but Q. Hell look at all the times an AP trist has done well in a game. It doesn't mean its a good idea.

I can have absolutely terrible games with this build too. I just came out of a game with quite possibly the worst support blitz I have ever seen (don't we all love saturdays!) and we lost the game. It doesn't have any bearing on the quality of the build.

Edit: Decided to scratch out "quite possibly" :)

My Tristana is pretty dam well powerfull...There is more than 1 ways to modify your character all of them effective. When you add something at the same time you leave another area weak...u can t have the good without the bad...

Beyong aware of your weaknesses and strengths is what is really important.

/leave thread

excellent guide! You explained everything there is to explain. 8/1/7 last game, +1 from me.

+1

Every Squishy AD like Caitlyn, Miss Fortune, ~~~~ they always need Frozen Mallet.

I'll go back to your guide and check if you put a Frozen Mallet :)

The cost effectiveness on Frozen Mallet especially as a survivability option is horrendous and honestly in my opinion, should hardly be used except very situationally on a ranged AD. Ideally, you want all those damage items on the build because they provide all the AD carry needs to do their job well (AD, AtkSpd, Crit C/D, LS, ArP, MS), which leaves one slot open for another offensive item or in most cases a defensive item.

When you buy Frozen Mallet, you get 20 AD, 700 health and the perma-slow passive. The main reason that people get this is mainly because of the slow utility that it provides. Note that the effectiveness of Frozen Mallet is reduced by 10% on ranged attacks, which makes it a less appealing buy for AD carries. Also the cost is a heavy 3250, which can be better spent on building the items that will benefit you more in the meanwhile.
Also, since AD carries have little resistances, an extra 700 health is only going to make you last another second if the focus is brought down on you, whereas other items which also give you defensive stats can work a lot more efficiently such as Quicksilver Sash, Banshee's Veil, Guardian Angel etc. These items benefit your survivability a lot more because Quicksilver Sash grants a good amount of magic resist, and has a cleanse-on-command which can remove the CC or debuffs that are getting you focused down; Banshee's Veil gives you extra health and mana, as well as some magic resist and a rechargeable spell shield; Guardian Angel tends to discourage the enemy team from attacking you, as well as bringing you back into the fight or to escape if you got focused down.

Frozen Mallet has a lot less utility than these, which is why I put it into the Offensive Items section in the guide because of the slow, but yet again, you can still get a slow from red buff as long as you're on a team that's good enough to give you red buff when it's needed. Also, with proper positioning and use of your abilities and range, you won't need the health at all, which is also another reason why Quicksilver Sash is a much better buy, because there are those games where they bring the focus completely onto you, can you get locked down by CC. In situations like these, the cleanse-on-command would be a lifesaver, whereas if you had a Frozen Mallet, you'd still be stuck there receiving damage instead of avoiding it. Also, the cost on Quicksilver Sash is 1440 which as a hell of a lot more cost-efficient than Frozen Mallet.

Sorry if some points haven't been made clear here, but I'm sleepy and I don't think I'm considering all the points, but this is what I have from the top of my head. I'll be checking your response when I get up in the morning.