@ JoeSixPack ty

not bad me like

Well thank you for checking out my build spawnpk. I'm going to talk about why i order my build this way. I'm going to start with the items since that's what you did. It is true that Banshee's veil might be a better option but i like to just be the one to sneak up and take em down. Ofc you can swap whatever you want for a Banshee's veil but if you were to do that then i would swap the Infinity Edge, because as Infinity Edge does give you a lot of damage, it is useless against thornmails. I like Berzerker's greaves because of that benefit. It makes it so that I'm less dependant on aspeed items. It makes it so that i can fit more damage then aspeed, thus making it easier to take em down.

Now Expunge before Debilating poison.. No i haven't actually. I usually like to get debilating poison first so that i can help my team and myself catch up or get away. I like Debilating poison over ambush because it makes even more slow against the enemy. Ofc you can max ambush over debilating poison first if you want but i think that it would be more useful as a slow.

As to the pictures and icons, well i'm still pretty new to mobafire. Don't know how to do lots on it.

And yeah this did all help me. ty

Well not a bad build at all, You might still need to work on your items section for diffrerent paths vs different opponents, 2 * Bloodthirster is great vs thorn mail and can work if you line up groups but does nothing vs. CC effects. I would tend to agree that a Banshee's Veil may be a better option. That said i very rarely run survivability items on my build and swap a Bloodthirster for a Zeke's Harbinger so that you can still get Mobility Boots I understand the benifits of Berserker's Greaves but the lack in mobility eary game really really stuff's up your ganging. After all you are meant to gang all the time :P

Have you thought about getting expunge before Venom Cask at level 2 so that you can secure the kill? also my preference is not to go so high on Venom Cask over Ambush. Ambush increases attack speed which i know you are semi countering by your runes and start item however i always prefer more time invis and more attack speed compare to the measley .75 extra seconds slow you get from debilitating poison if you level it.

Finally mate, might want to have a look at incorperating pictures and icons. There are guides out there and it will really spruce up your guide making it more readable.

Hope this all helps :P

**EDIT** didnt vote yet as i belieave with a little love this could become a good guide :)

oh also ninjaGinge i checked out your build and i think it's pretty good. I hope a lot of people will also think that too. Thanks for checking out mine.

yeah
i guess the damage will help more

I see you're prioritizing expunge now.

The build is certainly not horrid, but purpleges is correct on the survivability. The second BT does wonders, but for a squishy rat I can guarantee from experience that a BV will make you more effective 9 times out of ten compared to the second BT.

And might I suggest leveling expunge faster? Thats whats really gonna speed up how fast you net kills. Its kind of general concensus that expunge should level first but I tend to keep it about level with stealth so I have a balance between the two.

happy hunting good sir ^_^

ty for checking out my build and will make changes. Also the lifesteal is for the suvivability. mainly to me twitch is meant to surprise people and take em down quickly. again ty for reading my build.

Skill build is horrid. ALOT of your early/mid game dmg will be from expunge. Also all AD carries are strong late game. Survivability pls.