Udyr Build Guide by Phil Collins
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Brilliant guide, voted +1. |
 EpicPeanut Posts: 7 Joined: 2012-05-20 IGN: EpicPeanut on NA |
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EpicPeanut wrote:
Brilliant guide, voted +1. Somehow, I still got a question. You said Phoenix Stance was better for better for jungling, and Tiger Stance was more for solo top. But for ganking, or chasing an enemy... which one is better? Because what actually makes clearing camps faster, is that phoenix is an AoE skill. But let's get back to chasing or ganking an enemy, I don't need to do AoE damage, so why not use Tiger stance after the Bear stance instead? Since I'm building attack speed items (such as the Wit's End, Trinity Force, etc...), isn't it better to use Tiger stance for simply chasing and finishing an enemy off? Thanks for replying. Yes, it is. Which is why Tiger Stance does more damage than Phoenix Stance late game, even at rank 3. However, clear times and counterjungling is much more important early on than ganking as  Udyr can't gank as well as some people like  Maokai or  Nautilus due to having one stun only. As I stated in my guide, you can choose to jungle with  Tiger Stance if you want to gank more often.
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Phil Collins Prominent (167) 
Posts: 730 Joined: 2012-04-11 IGN: Phil ColIins on NA View My Blog |
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This is great guide,but what is better tiger or phoenix? |
 kymani37299 Posts: 2 Joined: 2012-04-15 IGN: kymani37299 |
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Great Guide. I used to play tanky/jungler UDYR then I changed for a more big damage jungler UDYR. Your guide brought me back to tanky Udyr. I'm trying to find a middle ground between your guide and my current Phoenix Jungler Build... |
 OneOfTheLostOnes Posts: 4 Joined: 2011-07-03 |
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OneOfTheLostOnes wrote:
Great Guide. I used to play tanky/jungler UDYR then I changed for a more big damage jungler UDYR. Your guide brought me back to tanky Udyr. I'm trying to find a middle ground between your guide and my current Phoenix Jungler Build... Now I have a couple of questions: 1) I like to buy wriggles lantern (the pasive gives crazy clear speed and the life-steal combined with turtle makes it easy to heal back to 100% hp with a only a couple of creeps/minions. Is there a way to include the lantern in this build? If so... when/where? 2) I suck at using Randuin's active, so wich other item could I replace it with? I was thinking Locket of The Iron Solari (because it has golden heart in it's recipie) but I'm not sure it's that usefull (and it also has an active I'll suck to use) So last two options which is better Thornmail or Frozen Heart? (in randuin's place) Thanks :) 1) Phoenix Udyr scales off AP/AS and you will not need the lifesteal. It's kind of redundant on Udyr since you've got  Turtle Stance for all the healing you'll need. Also, getting it for the faster jungle clear would be too repetitive as Phoenix Udyr can clear camps fast already, and  Wriggle's Lantern will delay your build as it gives stats that Phoenix Udyr simply does not need (AD/Lifesteal).2) I suppose  Frozen Heart would be the better choice as the aura will make up for forgetting the active. The other items you suggested are either for supports or just simply not as effective as  Randuin's Omen. Frozen Heart itself is not as good as Randuin's Omen as the CDR is wasted and it does not provide a slow, which would help Udyr close gaps better. You also need the  Heart of Gold early on to help you keep up in gold, and help you become more tanky.kymani37299 wrote:
This is a great guide,but what is better tiger or phoenix? Refer to my "Why do you jungle with Phoenix/Lane with Tiger?" section.
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Phil Collins Prominent (167)
Posts: 730 Joined: 2012-04-11 IGN: Phil ColIins on NA View My Blog |
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Overall this is a really nice guide man |
 bodanger Unremarkable (5) Posts: 111 Joined: 2011-02-11 |
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bodanger wrote:
Overall this is a really nice guide man There is one thing that I feel is a really big mistake. In you phoenix build you don't put a single point into tiger until everything else is maxed. The reason why this is such a big mistake is because for just a single point you get the full AD ratio of the on hit and 15 out of 35% of the AS. This makes a huge difference when ganking. Being able to pre-tiger when coming out of the brush with bear and then using it again when chasing adds a significant amount of damage to your ganks and only costs you 1 skill point. I probably just missed it but I also didn't see any mention of pre-tiger in the guide which is a huge part of playing Udyr to his fullest potential. Oh right, I'll add that.
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Phil Collins Prominent (167)
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+1. A very detailed & impressive guide. You've earnt my +1 this time.      
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 -NA- Veng Lmfao Prominent (64) Posts: 993 Joined: 2012-07-21 IGN: Veng Lmfao on NA View My Blog |
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moumoon wrote:
Nice, solid guide. +1 Seriously, thanks to your guide and stuff i am getting really good at using Udyr as a jungler and further more here is the link to my match history. Thanks again for your guide i have improved a lot :) 
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 Jujumufu Posts: 1 Joined: 2012-08-02 |
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GGskyRim wrote:
not a bad guide. but there is no order in the creep. what do you brush your forest and spend the gank I'm sorry, but I do not speak English. Explain your question |
 GGskyRim Unremarkable (1) Posts: 2 Joined: 2012-04-16 IGN: GGskyRim on EUNE |
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