Mordekaiser Build Guide by TheUn4givenRage
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i personally think that mordekaiser is way weaker then pantheon before pantheons buff. he needs a complete remake or major buff. at the moment he is useless by picking tis champion it will be like trolling your team. i totally agree with theun4givenrage. this champion is useless now. :( |
chong Unremarkable (1) Posts: 18 Joined: 2011-03-26 IGN: rubyrider |
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DePyro Unremarkable (5) Posts: 30 Joined: 2011-10-25 IGN: DePyro |
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I agree with u 100%. Right from the start I knew the nerf was to please the QQing population... Never have I seen a champion get their uniqueness taken away like this. Its comparable to twitch getting his stealth reduced to like 10 secs on max level. Right now I feel he is completely broken, no point in using him since he does a better job at killing himself than the enemy do. I was expecting a redo on Morde from the past 2 patches but it now seems they completely forgot about him and left him in the dumpster so the QQing will stop. |
ZeeSleepy Posts: 6 Joined: 2011-01-11 |
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Well... ****. |
xJadeWolfx Unremarkable (2) Posts: 26 Joined: 2011-08-18 IGN: xJadeWolfx on NA |
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Cocofang wrote:
What I am afraid of however is a hard rework of Mordekaiser. I like the way he is. Even the HP-costs for his abilities. A CD-based Morde wouldn't be the Morde I learned to play and love. He just needs a buff, not a rework.
I'm totally about this. I like the health costs (or did when they didn't hurt so bad) it gave him flavor, but he's definitely too weak right now. Playable for sure, and still a dominate force if you know how to play him and how to protect him, but he doesn't fit into a proper role (he barely did before) and really needs some CC given too him or given a buff. |
xJadeWolfx Unremarkable (2) Posts: 26 Joined: 2011-08-18 IGN: xJadeWolfx on NA |
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I'm still so sad about the nerf... Now i have no main :(( |
tinnguyen123 Posts: 7 Joined: 2011-06-07 IGN: TiNnGuYeN123 on NA |
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While I don't agree with the people that are saying Mordekaiser is "unplayable", I do agree that he is very underpowered. You will likely find yourself unable to secure kills without the help of an ally, during both the laning phase and late game. The problem seems to arise from the fact that if you want decent damage output you sacrifice your survivability, but if you want survivability you sacrifice a good portion of your damage output. However, as hard as it may be to secure kills on your own, Mordekaiser is an incredibly good laning partner. During the laning phase (particularly at lvl 1-2), Mordekaiser has some of the best pushing ability of any champ. Whenever I'm laning with a competent and aggressive enough ally, I almost always secure either first blood or an assist to first blood, particularly against melee champs who have little ability to push Mordekaiser around in the early game. In mid to late game, I find myself easily able to push any lane that needs pushing, as Mordekaiser's ability to push is nearly unequaled, and I am also an asset in teamfights because of my ultimate and my decent ability to absorb damage because of my passive, decent health pool, and decent health regeneration. Because of Mordekaiser possess melee range abilities (and because their is the general conception that Mordekaiser is weak) he will frequently be targeted early in a teamfight, and since you are no tank you will likely die, but you can be a pain and prolong your life as long as possible before you die, allowing your allies a chance to clean up the enemy team. Now herein lies the problem, Mordekaiser is almost entirely team dependent, if you have a ****py team you will probably lose, but if your team is good they will likely realize your potential and utilize it. Now am I saying Mordekaiser doesn't need a buff? Of course not; but I am saying that he can't still be played in an effective and fun way, just don't expect to be carrying. |
BigBarracuda Unremarkable (2) Posts: 11 Joined: 2011-09-28 IGN: BigBarracuda |
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First of all.You are right(talking about the first chapter),and basically explains why i suck so hard with Mordekaiser after the nerf.I was playing him like the old times,tried some lunatic stuff as well,and I wasnt satisfied.I actually stop playing him because i dont want to drag my team down since I can pick something much more effective and trust worthy right now.I feel that I need my opponents to be really terrible for me to be effective. -Come back with your shield,or on it-
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Forgottenduty Prominent (77)
Posts: 740 Joined: 2011-01-18 IGN: Forgottenduty on EUNE View My Blog |
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Morde's been my main for a while now, largely thanks to you Un4given (my salute to you for your work on these guides). I don't think it's fair or accurate to call Morde "unplayable." There have been games where I've done well as him post-patch 125 nerf AND post-Gunblade nerf. |
OblivionWraith Unremarkable (5) Posts: 145 Joined: 2011-09-17 |
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BigBarracuda wrote:
While I don't agree with the people that are saying Mordekaiser is "unplayable", I do agree that he is very underpowered. You will likely find yourself unable to secure kills without the help of an ally, during both the laning phase and late game. The problem seems to arise from the fact that if you want decent damage output you sacrifice your survivability, but if you want survivability you sacrifice a good portion of your damage output. However, as hard as it may be to secure kills on your own, Mordekaiser is an incredibly good laning partner. During the laning phase (particularly at lvl 1-2), Mordekaiser has some of the best pushing ability of any champ. Whenever I'm laning with a competent and aggressive enough ally, I almost always secure either first blood or an assist to first blood, particularly against melee champs who have little ability to push Mordekaiser around in the early game. In mid to late game, I find myself easily able to push any lane that needs pushing, as Mordekaiser's ability to push is nearly unequaled, and I am also an asset in teamfights because of my ultimate and my decent ability to absorb damage because of my passive, decent health pool, and decent health regeneration. Because of Mordekaiser possess melee range abilities (and because their is the general conception that Mordekaiser is weak) he will frequently be targeted early in a teamfight, and since you are no tank you will likely die, but you can be a pain and prolong your life as long as possible before you die, allowing your allies a chance to clean up the enemy team. Now herein lies the problem, Mordekaiser is almost entirely team dependent, if you have a ****py team you will probably lose, but if your team is good they will likely realize your potential and utilize it. Now am I saying Mordekaiser doesn't need a buff? Of course not; but I am saying that he can't still be played in an effective and fun way, just don't expect to be carrying. Sorry I need to clarify myself. He's unplayable with the meta in mid to high elo ranked right now. Its as bad as picking Teemo for ranked. The people in these elos are good enough to know what not to do around Mordekaiser and what to do to Mordekaiser. The carries will play careful to always stay away from your combo and the tanks will get involved as soon as possible. Its also a known fact that people will burst you down first because you are the biggest threat in team fights. The source of having a ghost is Mordekaiser and if you can kill him, there is no potential of a ghost uprising. There are definitely better champions to pick over Mordekaiser for top lane because you want a tanky damaging character to take top such as In regular match up games, yea I find Morde to be playable because people don't take it as seriously. I'll see 2 Ranged carries, 2 burst mage carries, or no support and I'll know its easier to take their team down. I will say playing in Dominion, he's unbearable early game. You know running into the enemy will be complete suicide so you have to play careful, but that limits you to only using Forgottenduty wrote:
First of all.You are right(talking about the first chapter),and basically explains why i suck so hard with Mordekaiser after the nerf.I was playing him like the old times,tried some lunatic stuff as well,and I wasnt satisfied.I actually stop playing him because i dont want to drag my team down since I can pick something much more effective and trust worthy right now.I feel that I need my opponents to be really terrible for me to be effective. Felt the same way and I've been learning new characters, but it still eats me away inside that I want to play Morde and play him like I used to because it was the most fun I've ever had in the game. Forgottenduty wrote:
Anyway. First of all Mordekaiser was ok as he was.He was very easy to counter thats what people couldnt understand and they where crying on forums. .But Riot decided to make him only for Bot games.And Evelin is a great example of their stupidity on this part. So. 1st:I believe that his health cost when using abilities should be reduced. 2nd:Making his shield more difficult to cut through,by making the hit points of your shield taking a smaller % of damage compaired to normal health.This is extremely important because right now your shield evaporates extremely fast because you cannot regenerate as much as you could in the past. Thats what i have in mind right now.Please take some time reading my comment :).Thank you in advance. Agreed, I saw all the posts of him needing a nerf on the forums and I just shook my head... I was speechless when I saw that got rid of his shield generation for OblivionWraith wrote:
Morde's been my main for a while now, largely thanks to you Un4given (my salute to you for your work on these guides). I don't think it's fair or accurate to call Morde "unplayable." There have been games where I've done well as him post-patch 125 nerf AND post-Gunblade nerf. However, for lvl.15-ish Summoners, I've actually played with him as a partner with duo lane. I understand that there may be some people (no doubt with more experience than me) who will disagree with this. However, I've laned with a Jax and I've laned with a Caitlin, didn't die once either time and got at least three kills/assists before the laning phase ended and Morde's potential kicked in. In Jax's case I got Creeping Death at lvl. 2 and gave it to him whenever he face-checked a bush. One thing I completely agree with Un4given: MORDE CANNOT BE ALONE! Get a teammate to fight with you or hide in jungle for a gank, because YOU WILL BE SCREWED if you are alone. I don't believe in pure-tank Morde at all. If you want a tank, pick Nasus or Rammus as they do the job much better. I liked pure AP up till the Hextech Gunblade nerf, but I think now Rylai's at least is definitely mandatory. For a Morde-buff, I can think of a few possibilites. 1) health costs - get rid of them or lower them. I heard from somewhere that Riot might get rid of health costs for all health-cost champions. Don't take this as a fact, it's just a rumor. Either way it can help a lot. 2) CC - MORDE NEEDS CC. He has a huge freaking mace, why can't it knock backward/upward or stun, for God's sake? Or at least slow with Siphon. Give it more Cooldown, I'll take the tradeoff. 3) Shield nerf - Riot had the right idea, but too much. 66% or 75% would have been nearer the mark. Morde is not unplayable, but definitely underpowered. Until they buff him, Riot should up the difficulty bar to hard on his character page for sure. Meanwhile, I've turned to Annie and Nasus as new mains. Let me know if Mordekaiser ever gets the buff he needs and deserves! I want that Pentakill Mordekaiser skin, but I'm certainly not going to get it while Morde's this underpowered. If the noobs can complain about how Morde is OP, can't we complain about how he's UP? :P I'm not a fan of Morde duo laning at all. Yes he can throw ![]() |
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