Talon Build Guide by Vapora Dark

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Vapora's Guide To Talon

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by Joxuu » July 16, 2012 9:32am | Report

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by Vapora Dark » July 16, 2012 10:14am | Report

Thanks for reminding me!


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by NeshkeBGD » July 16, 2012 10:47am | Report

This is not good.Bunch on AD,no utility,no HP,nothing.You will not do anything good for your team.You will just keep kill stealing.


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by Vapora Dark » July 16, 2012 11:06am | Report

NeshkeBGD wrote:

Bunch on AD

That's a negative? You have checked who the guide is about, right?

NeshkeBGD wrote:
no utility, no HP

So all Banshee's Veil does is make a pretty bubble around you? And Youmuu's Ghostblade doesn't give you utility? Since when?

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You will not do anything good for your team.You will just keep kill stealing.

lolwhat. Being able to kill both the AD carry and their AP in one burst is called kill stealing? And I suppose you're right, taking their highest damage outputs out of the fight in a few seconds IS completely useless for my team. I guess I should start building him as a tank.

Don't vote on guides about champions you know nothing about. Talon is an assassin, of course I don't stack HP items on him. He doesn't kill steal, he drops high damage bursts on enemies every 10 seconds, that's not kill stealing, that's called being a burst assassin. And I've got 1 utility item in my first build, and 2 in my second build, as well as 420 movement speed after you get tier 2 boots. Where did you get the "no utility" from?


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by tehAsian » July 16, 2012 11:42am | Report

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Because Neshke doesn't know that Talon is one of the few assassins who are allowed to go glass cannon.


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by Vapora Dark » July 16, 2012 12:04pm | Report

tehAsian wrote:

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Because Neshke doesn't know that Talon is one of the few assassins who are allowed to go glass cannon.

Thank you for understanding the champion. :)


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by NeshkeBGD » July 16, 2012 2:39pm | Report

That is not how Talon works.You don't understand.Ghostblade does give you utility,but not enough,Banshee's Veil gives you HP,but not enough.My point is that you don't pull as much as you can from Talon by building full AD.I guarantee it.I have Talon for a long time now and I know what am I saying.


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by Vapora Dark » July 16, 2012 2:49pm | Report

It's how the pros and pretty much every Talon player plays him, with different variations in the builds, but all focusing on AD. How would you suggest to build him then?

Also, apologies for the rudeness in my previous post, I was quite annoyed at the time.


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by NeshkeBGD » July 16, 2012 3:12pm | Report

Ok now,let's clear a few things.You have bunch of AD and that is not negative.It is negative that you don't have anything besides that.You do have some utility and HP.With Frozen Mallet, Trinity Force you have more than enough HP and utility because slow from Frozen Mallet is supporting your passive. Trinity Force slow will also help if you buy it first,also Sheen proc from Trinity Force will do wonders.
Come on!Let's be real!AD and AP carry are going to stand first in team fights?No they will stand back leaving tanks and offtanks to go before them.And also they will not run to your team and say:"Talon,you're an assassin,kill us now!".Or will they?You tell me.If you do all your efforts to go through tanks and offtanks you will sure get some kind of CC on you from several enemies and you will die.One, Banshee's Veil cannot save you from all CC they have.I don't say you don't have support of your team,but I say that there is no way for you to kill carrys and not die.You can say what you want,but that is sad truth.And if you go on tanks,you will get crushed as you are squishy and they will be sure to focus you down because you are the nearest squishiest target around.You are suiciding however if you are going full AD.
Of course he's an assassin,but you need to understand that every champion needs some kind of protection or resistance.I am going to show you what I mean with that "no utility" you have.


I will jump to my target using my E.Then I automatically proc Trinity Force effect that will deal 150% damage on my next attack and with it I will proc Frozen Mallet's effect followed by procing Mercy.
I will activate my ultimate- Shadow Assault to stay invisible and avoid instant retaliation.When I activate it again,blades will return to me dealing damage to my target.At this point you need to stand in right place.Ultimate can also be connected with E by first using ultimate and then targeting an enemy WHICH IS FACING YOU(if he/she is not facing you,then you failed your ultimate).
I will be sure to activate Rake that will deal a good amount of damage and slow the target.
When my Trinity Force effect is refreshed again,I will be sure to hit Noxian Diplomacy as it will deal 150% of it's damage as it's considered as next attack.
Now,my damage output was outrageous and my target is bleeding which will assure my kill.I will have enough HP and resistances to survive(because I'm using Fratma's combo and Mercury's Treads).
You do as you yield but I say that this is not a good build.I gave you my opinion and my build which you can find on my profile.


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by Vapora Dark » July 16, 2012 6:31pm | Report

You can't exactly say my build doesn't work... I've posted screenshots of myself carrying matches with Talon, using the build in the cheatsheet. I believe in one of the matches my stats were 27/4, and most of the other matches are stats similar to those. If building Talon as a glass cannon is extremely ineffective, why is it that I, and every other experienced Talon player that uses a similar build, can pull it off, and carry matches like this? Like TehAsian said, Talon is one of the few meelee champion in the game that can build full glass cannon and pull it off. I'm sure if you watch streams of LoL pros that play Talon, lots of them will use similar glass cannon builds, and still manage to survive. The person that inspired to me to get good with Talon by carrying his team was also using a glass cannon build, and he went 34/7 or something. Don't diss my guide because the cheatsheet doesn't build how you build Talon.

Also, you've rated my whole guide down because of the cheatsheet I displayed, when I even state in my guide you can build him however the **** you want. I list my core build, then I display a vast number of items you may choose to take with Talon after you've finished the core build that could prove effective, which does actually show Trinity Force, Atma's Impaler and Frozen Mallet. I went on to state that the "best build" for Talon is only a matter of opinion, and you're free to pick whatever items you want, so long as you pick among the items I displayed in that section. I also stated that the cheatsheet items were merely my opinion as to what the "best" Talon build is.

So, please don't rate down my entire guide on how to play Talon, just because you disagree with the items in the cheat sheet. The guide is massive, just because you disagree with the build I recommend, doesn't mean the guide is telling you to run in to 1v5's or anything like that.


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