General Guide by Hahano

... come to think of it... since her jungling method is to just slap the q button over and over... It wouldn't be too hard to maintain map awareness. Hell, Soraka might have the unique ability to jungle entirely from the minimap! Perfectly timed global ults from the jungle? Jeeze.

Just for note, id downgrade Shyvanas late game to 7 (she falls under jungle cho category in my mind) since a) people do have a primal fear against reptiles and will instantly attack you during teamfights no matter if you used your ulti or not b) all her late game rape items are pretty much general late game rape items, she only has nice synergy with some of them (my reason of lee sin hate - some kind of synergy with almost every item in game... even the mana/mregen ones...)

And without good ganks/cc in lane, after the 30 min mark her itemization will be really far behind in comparison to solo top shy.

@Andele3025: Thanks for the input. I'm reworking each rating character by character and I will keep your comments in consideration! Highly appreciated!

@remeranAuthor: A few chars can do that (Skarner, Trundle) but she's weird in the jungle.

Thanks, but its just some notes i get from playing around (im not really high elo, i think as your guide says im on the edge of mid tier and good...) and i have to tell you this, there is a epic replay of some 1700 elo dude going jungle heimer and man, the ganks and level 6 dragon solo are just EPIC. He doesnt even fall off that much late game as normal heimer since the main focus are rockets not turrets (no lane phase=no real need for maxing turrets).
By me semi-tested thing: After Philo Stone (and the mana runes) he seemed not to have any real mana problems either, but on dragon you need pretty good control over aggro or he will reset what can be a major pain.

BTW. Nunu got a kinda better route: Smite on enemy wraith and consume on 1, wolf camp, and then o blue first killing 1 of the minions before doing blue for a level up, it has (about) the same timing as the new level 2 ganks while you set the enemy back by 55 gold and 1/4 of the starting xp bar and giving you 108 hp during blue.

@Hahano trundle would need to click the jungle monsters to begin using Q :P

i think malphite god exponentialy better with the new jungle, heck he breezes through it and can do it naked. yah his ganks pre-6 are damn awful but after 6 you are as good as dead if that rock comes out of the bush. plox reconsider about him being on the fringe since many of us (heck even stonewall008) rate him high now in the new jungle.

Nice i go play jungler in my next many games! :D

great thanks

Great guide brilliant. I just started jungling with Lee Sin as always learning a new skill is challenging, should I be doing offensive masteries or defensive masteries. In your 101 jungle guide its wolves to blue. In your Lee sin guide its wolves, wraiths, golems, red buff, wolves and blue buff. In you experience what is the best way to attack the route now. Thank you and again amazing guide.

it literally is th best guide on mobafire :P +1