General Guide by Hahano

This was a very helpful guide, well done.

...but I couldn't help but notice one small error... you have Gangplanks base health as the highest in the game, which is correct, but, it is not 495 at level 1, it is 576. His base health is 495, but at level 1 (since we don't start at level 0/base/wtf?), the second you get in the game it is 576.

How do I know, your source says so very misleadingly...

So you know, under Diana. If you hit with Q, then use R, all of the moonlight debuffs disappear, so you can only use R twice in a short timeframe (without usual cooldowns).

Hey, Hahano, have you thought of trying Garen as a jungler with her latest changes? He's decently fast at it now, just has a slightly slow start, but he's really sustained and may not have CC but offers A LOT of damage and snowballs very well now.

I'd say he's kind of like Shyvana or Dr. Mundo now in terms of jungling. :p

I've used him as a jungler a few times now, and won every game, getting any kills snowballs his spin to win damage into insanity. :p


Also, what about Zyra? She's also apparently able to jungle well, and would be another AP addition to Fiddlesticks.

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By the way Katarina Jungle acually works! I've seen it and shes really fast with her low cooldown w, but her ganks arn't that good

Hey Hahano!

Awesome guide. I really enjoyed reading it, although it took a while! lol. But, don't change a thing because it's perfect as the guide to end all other jungle guides. It was the best one I could find on several sites, not just mobafire. In fact, I am recommending this guide in my up and coming article on www.gettherax.com which will be titled “Improve Your ELO in Just One Week! Stevo's Top League of Legends Guide Picks to Help You Improve Your Ranked Gaming!” It should be hitting our site either tonight or tomorrow morning, so be sure to check it out!

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8/21/2012

"Fizz sort of snowballs"
Yeah if you build him as ad bruiser it is "sort of" but AP Fizz snowballs a LOT. I'm wondering why did you played Fizz as ad jungler but diana as ap. It needs some refresh imo, he is not good jungler but as ap he snowballs a lot and is very usefull as carry-assassin late game.

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@LoLxCharger: Thanks for the pick up on that. I will likely just remove the number and let people take me on faith because it's bound to change one day.

@vanxidomor: Thanks for that, I never had reason to do such and assumed it worked that way (removing a single charge and not all currently active). It will be updated in the next pass.

@OTGBionicArm: I have not tried Garen in the jungle yet because his remake is still relatively new. I don't feel he'll be too good at ganking, even worse than Shyvana because even though he has a silence, Shyvana has a massive move speed boost that last longer AND applies red buff. I also think that Garen has a rough life in late game most times even with top lane farm, so less will do him no good. I won't strike him off yet, but he's low on the priority list. Zyra is so ridiculous in the middle that jungling her is a waste of her talent. I haven't done so because of that.

@Derpcuppycake: I will add her to fringe, thanks.

@Gettherax: Thanks for the mention, it's always appreciated.

@nhom: Fizz data is based on ~1 week after his release when builds were up in the air. While AP Jungle Fizz might snowball harder as an AP assassin, I have not tried the build. I honestly may not get around to retouching it either because I feel his sustain will take a big hit without a Wriggle's or some sort of life steal mechanism. If you'd like to chat with me about it and provide me some insight, replays or live action jungle AP Fizz, please PM me and we'll do it to it.

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@NicknameMy: As an overall comment, I don't feel that Darius or many other characters should be jungling. Yes, they're able to jungle, but I don't feel it plays to their strengths - which is what composing a team in a team game is all about. I'm sure that Brett Favre can run a football, but that doesn't mean he should be a running back. It doesn't help any that Phreak jungles literally every champion with Tri-force to make my face bloody with how many times I smash it into my keyboard.

As far as Darius, I've played him a few times in a jungle, but not as much as many of the others in this guide. While I didn't play him enough to get "true appreciation" of his ability there, the games I had did not show a great jungling promise. He has a hard time ganking despite having a CC mechanism, gets underfarmed unless there's a ton of kills under his belt and his early burst damage isn't remarkable. Slap all of this together and you get a lackluster jungler that can prey on bad players and will get strangled by good ones.

Also, if you have a comment on a champion, shoot me a PM or something. Leaving a comment for the fifteenth time here doesn't give way to conversation - just an opinion. If you PM me, we can talk about it, and this way I can actually give you reasoning behind my choices and make reasonable changes to champions.