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By Squashii | 2011-07-21 04:33:03 | Reply

Trojan995 wrote:

No survivability, whatsoever.
No trinity force.
Too many phantom dancers. Frankly, even one is too much (but that's preference I guess).
You get infinity edge too late for this crit build; in my opinion it SHOULD be bought late, but buying 2 PD's and a BT before it is stupid.
You're not jungling.
You start with brawler's gloves - horrible start.
3 PD's?! Really?

That's all the problems with this build.

Now I heard "Infinity Edge to late" as it was the "magical item that makes you the strongest".
This build is not for beginners, I've survived and won many fights with this without infinity edge at start.
No I'm not jungling, havn't seen anyone (yet) with GP that is jungling.
What's horrible with Brawler's Gloves? Crit in start and one step closer to Zeal.
Fast hits with alot of critdamage will make you strong even without 100% strength, therefor I buy 2 PD's before Infinity Edge.
The last Phantom Dancer is for movementspeed and you also get attackspeed and crit (like GP should have).
It's smart 'cause you don't need the boots with reducing cooldown more than attackspeed and crit. He's still fast with this 3rd Phantom Dancer.

By Labyrinto | 2011-07-20 17:27:23 | Reply

Pretty solid guide, IMO you're better off grabbing mana/5 seals and getting avarice instead of that first zeal, then a b.f. sword, then phantom. +1

By Trojan995 | 2011-07-20 16:42:26 | Reply

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By Roflthisisfun | 2011-07-20 23:24:05 | Reply

Thanks for voting and suggestions guys!
I have tried and looked over your suggestions and changes will be posted soon.

By Xenasis | 2011-07-20 04:27:54 | Reply

Great guide (+1)

Only thing I'd disagree with would be where you said WW can jungle without Smite. No jungler can jungle without smite.

By Freddy Shopan | 2011-07-20 01:05:06 | Reply

Very good guide! Looks like a lot of work went into it, and is quite solid. :] Few suggestions and questions, but your first rating will be a + from me!

Guide-wise, it has a little tl;dr kinda feel (like it's just a huge block of text). Peeps in general don't have the attention span. ;P But that's kinda a stylistic thing. Many people do fine regardless.

As far as the actual ideas go, is it more effective to grab the phil stone, or rush the aegis after your HoG? Aegis tends to be most effective earlier, so I'd consider that at least. If you've tried that and found the way you stated better, I'd very much like to know if my mumu could use that. ;P I'll try it in any case.

Masteries look awesome. I usually only get 1 point in Harden skin unless I'm going 21 def because the 1st point gets just as much as the 2nd and 3rd point combined. I like those two points in hp and warding money. Like you, I find the 2 points in buff duration AMAZING. I don't know why people only settle for 1 even with 4% reduction...

Boots of swiftness are meh for me. Usually I use the bandage and flash for positioning, and that does fine for me. It's a valid point, though. Also not sure about warmogs last. Gives it very little time to farm up... :/ I'd just stack more armor or mr at that point if it's a balanced team, or get more damage output. I think when tanks are reeeally tanky, it's really pointless to stack more tanky items. You can't have them just ignore you.

But SOLID guide and very detailed. I do like. Especially since you put an emphasis on wards. ;D Bravo for first guide.

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By mobrebel | 2011-07-20 18:34:44 | Reply

XP Thanks and cause you took that well I will +1 the guide XP

By wHoHo | 2011-07-20 11:56:02 | Reply

Sorry about the wall of text:D

Well this is my play-style and it focused on premade 5v5 with good teamwork, so using this teamwork I’m guessing that I will be rarely hit and if I am it won’t matter because I will flash out of range, the CDR boots and Reverie with runes put you at max CDR that why I go those boots, however if they have certain champs or a situation arises where it is not smart to get CDR boots I won’t get them.

The AP suggestion is good but what Soraka needs the AP because any late game fight a heal for 300 is useless if one is getting focused, so having a w that heals for 600 and a r that heals for 1.2k is much better in my opinion.

The heal suggestion is good and typically I follow that rule, however say your fighting on their tower you want to heal the tank that initiates so they take less damage from the tower, and with high CDR the heal can charge targets instantaneously.

The agsis works well but I usually find myself where a tank will get it first so they can start ganking and team fighting faster, and the bonuses it gives I find are not very cost effective late game. Oh and the item order don’t have to follow, I sometimes find myself rushing a GA simply because of their team, it works better having a outline and basis for games, but as b4 I did not say this is the guide to all guide for Soraka.

I do appreciate your input and will gladly respond and possibly change/expand my guide. As of now I am think of creating another second build that focuses on an aura tanky Soraka.

Thanks for your input and I would gladly like to talk with you about the more tank Soraka

Gl n HF,

wHoHo

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By mobrebel | 2011-07-20 11:13:24 | Reply

Great guide. But, there are some issues that I have with it. You are welcome to vehemently defend your guide, saying it is the best, and not taking any feedback to help make your guide better. Or you can listen and give your own feedback about what I said XP.

1. Too much gold needed for that much AP. You need to take out some. Auras help more for less gold. They also give some good CDR. (Shurelya's and Soul Shroud work well here.)

2. Don't bother with CDR Boots. Finish CDR another way. I find that Boots of Swiftness allow me to stay in the back of the fight but also get up to the person that needs my help faster.

3. I like the Runes. Nothing there.

4. I don't suggest healing at the beginning of the fight until the first hit is done. That way, your heal still heals while giving some armor too.

5. Aegis works well on her, get it.

6. I find people will focus Soraka if you start making it impossible to kill your teammates. So, that is why I go tanky. Tankiness goes a long way.

Tell me what you think.

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By Gen425 | 2011-07-20 22:14:42 | Reply

-1

There's nothing else worth saying. Go look at a decently ranked guide.

By Fox Rage | 2011-07-19 17:23:25 | Reply

Pro trolling, -1 for me

1. Dude, you made so many spelling mistake, it's not even funny --'
2. You got NOTHING to help you get kills early game, your build just focused on getting the most expensive item on market
3. You don't even upgrade Stinger into Nashors tooth. I'm just wondering, why get AP if you are making a full AD/AS build?
4. HAHAHAHAHA chapter... seriously dude WTF? 5000 character is NOTHING. Just explain a bit how to play, lane, gank and build her, and pouf, 5000 character. You obviously did none of those.
5. Worst. Spell. Description. Evar
6. You say you can jungle Evelynn easily, but you don't even say anything about it, except : Get smite and Exaust
7. Why take the teleport masteries? Why not take the exaust masteries instead --'
8. Good Hands > Perseverance. Just do the math yourself. I don't feel like doing them for a troll like yourself
9. Could you put less effort on your guide please?
10. Can't believe someone actually gave you a +1, sigh

You're such a troll. A disgrace to all MOBAFire user, I pity you

By Chassman | 2011-07-19 17:05:18 | Reply

It Should work. i use it everyday :)

By Chassman | 2011-07-19 17:05:14 | Reply

It Should work. i use it everyday :)

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By Pinstriped | 2011-07-20 20:14:23 | Reply

You make a good point; I'll toy around with the mastery suggestions. Once upon a time I ran dodge runes, but when I switched to armor I didn't adjust the defense masteries. Thanks for the advice.

It is AP/AS rather than AD/AP. It's supposed to be that way for making the most of Rumble's innate. The reason I put Rageblade in was because it works well early on and is pretty cheap. It's one of the few AP/AS items out there. I do agree that Abyssal is a good item on Rumble. I think it's one of the best items in the game, personally. I'll put a note under Abyssal that Rageblade is a good option to dump for it, though, since it does lose a bit of power as the game goes on.

By ConMasterFlash | 2011-07-19 20:17:21 | Reply

First of all, the Mario & Luigi games could be the greatest of all time, and Fawful could be the greatest villain of all time.

But on topic, if you aren't running dodge runes, those 5 points in dodge masteries are basically worthless. You should move them to MR and either Good Hands or Brute Force.

Also, it seems to be more of an AP/AS hybrid than AD/AP. I think Rageblade is a poor choice, itll be impossible to stack in a teamfight. I think either void staff or abyssal scepter would be better, more MPen would really help.

By Pinstriped | 2011-06-30 23:46:27 | Reply

Most people play that way, yes. I play hybrid, and laid out my reasoning for it. He needs AP, yes, but AS works great on him too. Please read the "Why Hybrid" section before just downvoting, or tell me where I'm wrong in my reasoning.

By Majorllama | 2011-06-30 20:09:07 | Reply