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Champions I never see going mid and wonder why.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by m00d » December 29, 2011 1:19pm | Report
Fiddlesticks.

Lux.

Why?

Thanks.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Lugignaf » December 29, 2011 1:32pm | Report
Fiddlesticks: Because he's considered batter in the jungle where his ganking is appreciated. He's not quite good in the jungle now anyway.

Lux: Uhh... She should be going mid. If she's not, I don't know what you're doing really. :P
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Zeprido » December 29, 2011 1:35pm | Report
Lugignaf wrote:

Fiddlesticks: Because he's considered batter in the jungle where his ganking is appreciated. He's not quite good in the jungle now anyway.

Lux: Uhh... She should be going mid. If she's not, I don't know what you're doing really. :P


Lux can be played bot lane =P
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by m00d » December 29, 2011 1:38pm | Report
But as it seems to me, I never see a Lux in game at all. But she has really long range on her skills and does good damage.
But still if someone picks her for AP carry people write things like:
"..."
"Really?"
"Lux? WOW GG"

What´s all that about?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by IceCreamy » December 29, 2011 1:51pm | Report
^ Yeah, I rofl at them. I just finished a game where all were like: rofl hahahaha a Lux, she will be easily stomped by our Morgana!

I end up 10/2/13, and their team quickly leaves as if it didn't happen.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Xenasis » December 29, 2011 1:53pm | Report
Lux generally isn't seen as very good due to the low AP ratios on her skills combined with the difficulty to land them. They're low and aren't point and click. Go figure.

Fiddlesticks, I'm not going to lie, sucks in the jungle. Hard. He, however, has no lane control. The closest thing he has to harassment is his E, and that's pitiful. He can't farm, and when his main skill is Drain, it's pointless against both heavy CC opponents or heavy harassment opponents. People don't stand there and be drained. He also can't use that same ability to farm or whatever. TF, for example, maxes Q first. He can farm with it AND kill people, as with Malz's E, and even though Malz's E is a DoT, it stays even if they move away, unlike Fiddles' abilities.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Anandre » December 29, 2011 1:53pm | Report
Fid is a bad laner. His AoE is incredibly weak and he can't use any skills to farm efficiently, so he'll almost constantly be pushed if the other lane is any bit aggressive.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by IceCreamy » December 29, 2011 1:56pm | Report
I need to stay out of this topic, I will defend Lux too much :D

But she doesn't have low ap ratio's - with one combo I easily take out the squishy champs.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by m00d » December 29, 2011 2:02pm | Report
I understand why no Fiddle now, but Lux still seams viable mid to me.
I´m not a mid laner myself, but I´ve tried Lux in dominion and won pretty hard when I did.

I don´t think landing her abilities is that hard. It´s actually really similar to Gragas in range and dificulty in hitting people in the face.
The Q->Ult combo also seems very strong.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Xenasis » December 29, 2011 2:10pm | Report
IceCreamy wrote:

But she doesn't have low ap ratio's


Yes she does.

Lux's damaging spell ratios -
0.7
0.6
0.75

They're all SKILLSHOTS, all of which on long cooldowns. No real major CC.

Annie's ratios -
0.7
0.75
0.7
She has an AoE STUN, and most of her damage is instant. Her W, though cone damage, for example, hits immediately. None of Lux's abilities do that.

They're all relatively easy to land. As I say, the ratios are low in relation to difficulty. Since both are burst mages, and Annie's skills are on far lower cooldowns, and Annie has higher bases, it's clear who's the superior choice.

Lux in a lane isn't bad. It's her late game where she falls off. Of course, it's not hard to land her abilities, nor is it hard to land many abilities in this game, though having a point and click ability is assured damage, a good laner can dodge many skillshots. Assured damage >>>> anything with even a small chance of being dodged.
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