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The "uncounterable's"?

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Kennen is the hardest one to counter. He can also go top, mid or even bot. He is most versitale and wins any

Swain kinda drops him like a rock.

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i love yorick.. There are solo top champions and yorick.He is the solo top himself.
So far i have got no counters with yorick. But im pretty sure there must be some.
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You dont "win" a lane against a good yorick... You *Survive* it. All there is to it.

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You dont "win" a lane against a good yorick... You *Survive* it. All there is to it.


Pretty much =Pthis game morde was turrethugging for the first 15 mins then skarner came to gank me, i got double from it. I was already level 18 when everyonelse was around 15's Then morde simply abandoned top lane and started roaming, i pushed all the way top to the inhib turret it was funny cait came to gank, insta died, tf came to gank at level 6 with his ult he ran like hell. Only times i died was when i got cocky and tried to 1v5, howver i still got some with me before i died.

He's really underplayed and underrated i honestly wouldn't wanna see everyone playing him tbh lol.
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I could imagen cho doing quite good vs Yorick and well WW as he can rush MR and gets mana reg on top

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Cho COULD do well as long as the Yoric wasnt being too aggressive. If cho cant last hit he has no sustain.

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nothing is uncounterable.


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Cho'Gath
Trundle
Sion

All **** all over yorick

I don't really lose to anyone as Sion, if you know how to play him, he's pretty unmovable in lane. :o

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So what champions are solid first picks and uncounterable?
My short-list.
Top:
Renekton(although he has a hard time against kennen), Pantheon, Nidalee, cho'gath.

Mid:
Galio, Ryze(to some level), Morgana.

Bot:
Urgot.

Support:
Janna

Jungle:
Trundle.



Champions i chose not to enlist:
Warwick gets destroyed by a lot of matchups(personal favourite; Gangplank.)(hard time against ryze/kennen as well)
Gangplank, used to be my go-to top pick if i was first pick but i figured if enemy picks pantheon you dead bro, you can still get through this afk-farming maxing W though.
Olaf is very strong, but if they send ryze or Kennen you'll have a hard time.


Top:
Renekton is beat by most people top that can build armor without getting behind in their builds.

Panth is weak against most AD's with sustain.

Nidalee gets beat by a good singed player, or a good player of most any bruiser really.

Cho'Gath is a late game monster, but a lot of champions beat him early game.

Mid:

Galio doesn't have kill pressure on most mids, he farms, and has his ulti late game, soraka deals with both pretty well.

Ryze is beat by anyone that can push, i personally use Mordekaiser and just push him to his tower and roam.

How you beat morgana is by picking a mage that can push. You push the wave and don't let her roam, make her last hit at tower.

Bot:

Urgot loses to burst comps.

Support:

Janna loses to sustain comps.

Jungle:

Trundle is pretty weak overall as a jungler, if you don't let it get to super late game, trundle is pretty weak overall.

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Acid Reigns wrote:

Cait is hard countered by sivir O.o


I've heard this alot, don't think it's true. Spellshielding traps isn't enough to be considered a hard counter

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Also, ren and panth aren't very good :/



They're really strong early game and can snowball out of control. They're not really popular in tournament play because you have to snowball to be effective. People see this and automatically assume that they as champions are not good.


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I'd prolly say something more along the lines of

Top:
Lee Sin, Gangplank, Cho'Gath, Irelia, Vladimir, Nidalee



Lee Sin is countered by Yorick
Gangplank is hard countered by Pantheon
Cho'Gath is countered by any hypercarry
Vladimir is brokenly OP at the moment
Nidalee is countered by aggressive play pre-6


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Mid:
Ryze, Urgot, Galio, Mordekaiser



Ryze, Cassiopeia, Karthus, and Anivia are 4 champions that are popular mid because they are so hard to counter, Urgot is very counterable by basically any burst mage, Galio is a counter pick to mid, so he's very counterable. Mordekaiser is also on the verge of broken; he just requires a lot of ganks, even then he can be ******ed. Fiddlesticks and apparently Malzahar counter morde really well. Cassiopeia is another strong pick again morde.

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Carry:
Miss Fortune, Corki



Miss Fortune is a pick to win the lane, even then Caitlyn is a solid pick against her. Also picking passive farm lanes, with a heavy sustain support is difficult for Miss Fortune to deal with

Corki is one of the most overrated carries in the game. Kog'Maw is a reactionary pick to Corki, even then Tristana is stronger than Corki at all points of the game except for her weak mid-game.

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Jungle:
Shyvana, Dr. Mundo, Trundle

Support:
This is usually picked depending on your team, rather than the other team, however, a good Janna is always awesome! :O


Don't know much about the jungle, Janna is pretty overrated. She can be countered in different ways. I think she gets beat by kill lanes and sustain lanes. The difference is kill lanes require early dominance which janna can deal with pretty well between her shield and tornado, but around level 3-5 both kill lanes and sustain lanes becomes strong. The only think I think Janna counters is Alistar and Sona. The reason she's picked is because she is one of the few supports that can directly affect the outcome of a teamfight, specifically by controlling all 5 enemies. That's why Nunu is/was popular, Sona was popular, etc.

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