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The "uncounterable's"?

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April 19, 2012 1:38am
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Pretty much =Pthis game morde was turrethugging for the first 15 mins then skarner came to gank me, i got double from it. I was already level 18 when everyonelse was around 15's Then morde simply abandoned top lane and started roaming, i pushed all the way top to the inhib turret it was funny cait came to gank, insta died, tf came to gank at level 6 with his ult he ran like hell. Only times i died was when i got cocky and tried to 1v5, howver i still got some with me before i died.

He's really underplayed and underrated i honestly wouldn't wanna see everyone playing him tbh lol.


no offense, but that's at 900 elo

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Acid Reigns » April 19, 2012 1:12pm | Report
You don't spellshield traps, you spellshield her Q and her R. You CAN shield traps if you want for free mana, but yeh.

Just pick a strong top, and you can easily shut either down to the point where they're useless. I've never had a problem top with either champ.

I've seen lee's DESTROY yoricks
Yes gp is hard countered by pantheon, but again, pantheon sucks, so no one cares.
I honestly can't recall a lane I've lost as cho, and I auto lock him A LOT.
Nida is strong pre 6 -.-

Karthus and aniv are both easily countered O.o
For karthus, just pick fizz
For anivia, just pick a hyper agressive jungle, and steal her blue

I've never heard that fiddle, or malz counter yorick, but they're both kinda bad as well :o

Cait v MF COULD go either way, but MF doesn't suck lategame, where cait does.

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You want to loose with Cho'Gath? Play against Kennen and explain why you couldn't farm anything.

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Lee destroying yorick? that must be bad yorick then. And yes 900 elo's, problem?
Not that everyone at this elo are ultramega noobs. Actually there are some, just like there are at higher elos aswell.
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Acid Reigns wrote:

You don't spellshield traps, you spellshield her Q and her R. You CAN shield traps if you want for free mana, but yeh.


caitlyn ***** on Sivir in every other aspect, and it's not like either are essential to winning the lane for cait.

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Just pick a strong top, and you can easily shut either down to the point where they're useless. I've never had a problem top with either champ.

I've seen lee's DESTROY yoricks
Yes gp is hard countered by pantheon, but again, pantheon sucks, so no one cares.
I honestly can't recall a lane I've lost as cho, and I auto lock him A LOT.
Nida is strong pre 6 -.-


lee sin has difficulty landing his Q with Yorick's ghosts, also Yorick is tanky enough and has enough sustain to deal with lee sin.

You pick a hypercarry to counter cho because he really has little to none kill potential without a jungle gank. Tryndamere on free farm, GG chogath.

Pantheon does not suck, he might not be the strongest pick, but doesn't suck

Nidalee pre-6 has 0 kill potential. Literally none, her only form of harass is auto attacks, even then she can easily lose trades. Her only saving grace is her heal that allows her to trade against non-sustain champions.

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Karthus and aniv are both easily countered O.o
For karthus, just pick fizz
For anivia, just pick a hyper agressive jungle, and steal her blue



Fizz is kind of a joke, you can't really win a game after 30 minutes with Fizz. In any case, it's nearly impossible to stop a Karthus from farming and a late game karthus will beat most mid champions in terms of damage output

Anivia has so much utility and wins fights for her team, stealing blue buff isn't a total counter because you can build around that with Tear, Chalice, Catalyst, etc.

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I've never heard that fiddle, or malz counter yorick, but they're both kinda bad as well :o

Cait v MF COULD go either way, but MF doesn't suck lategame, where cait does.


Fiddle and Malz counter morde, not yorick, and I don't know about Malz, I know fiddle does for sure. Neither champion are inherently bad, each have major flaws. Fiddle's major flaw is a weak laning phase, but he has one of the best ultimates in the game, like literally a game winner. Malz has strong laning the only problem is his ultimate can be countered by a 1400 gold item

A good caitlyn player will usually beat an MF. Mf really can't rely on her lane dominance against cait's harass. Cait's late game is only marred by not having a consistent steroid, in terms of damage her's isn't that bad. Miss Fortune's damage is pretty poor overall. She has good single target dps, but I wouldn't say it's necessarily "good"

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You want to loose with Cho'Gath? Play against Kennen and explain why you couldn't farm anything.



i think you're over exaggerating this pretty immensely

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NicknameMy wrote:

You want to loose with Cho'Gath? Play against Kennen and explain why you couldn't farm anything.



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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Fox Rage » April 19, 2012 2:42pm | Report
tbh, I can't remember the last time I lost bot lane vs caitlyn. IMO, laning vs a caitlyn is a free lane win. I find her to be BY FAR the worst AD carry out there. She has close to no late game scaling compared to other AD carry (Like Corki, Vayne, Ashe, etc.), unless she's stupidly fed.

As Sivir, why the hell would you need to shield Caitlyn's Q? That skill is so slow and predictable, it's not even funny. If you're unable to dodge that skill, you sir, have a big problem.

Dodge > Shielding. It's much better to dodge the skill and keep your shield for when you'll really need it (i.e. Taric comes out of freaking nowhere, flash in + stun on you. Sadly, you made the mistake of wasting your shield on Caitlyn's Q. You got stun. You Have Been Slain.)

TL;DR : Caitlyn's a terrible champ since the nerf on her Q, imo. If you lose a lane to her, you got a problem.


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Fox Rage wrote:

tbh, i NEVER EVER lost a lane vs caitlyn. IMO, laning vs a caitlyn is a free lane win. I find her to be BY FAR the worst AD carry out there. She has close to no late game scaling compared to other AD carry (Like Corki, Vayne, Ashe, etc.), unless she's stupidly fed.

As Sivir, why the hell would you need to shield Caitlyn's Q? That skill is so slow and predictable, it's not even funny. If you're unable to dodge that skill, you sir, have a big problem. Dodge > Shielding. It's much better to dodge the skill and keep your shield for when you'll really need it (i.e. Taric comes out of freaking nowhere, flash in + stun on you. Sadly, you made the mistake of wasting your shield on Caitlyn's Q. You got stun. You Have Been Slain.)

TL;DR : Caitlyn's a terrible champ since the nerf on her Q, imo. If you lose a lane to her, you got a problem.


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btw, had to edit the first sentence since I did lose lanes vs caitlyn (duh), just not in the last few months lol


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Not sure if trolling....


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