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Brutilizer - Why are AD Carries rushing this?

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January 8, 2013 2:44am
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I understand the stats look nice, woo Arpen and all, but has anyone actually run the numbers against a BF sword.

Because I have.

I ran Brutalizer vs BF Sword, Brutalizer + BF Sword vs Bloodthirster (Empty and Full), and Black Cleaver (0 and 4 stacks) vs Bloodthirster (Empty and Full).

I'll list the runes/masteries I've set for everything at the bottom.

The results are as follows:
Brut vs BF: Favours BF 6% minimum, up to 15%
Brut+BF vs EBT: Favours Brut 5%, even at 245AR
Brut+BF vs FBT: Favours BT minimum 11% , up to 19%
0BC vs EBT: Favours BT minimum 3%, up to 11%
4BC vs EBT: Favours BC after 20AR, up to 11%
0BC vs FBT: Favours BT minimum 23%, up to 31%
4BC vs FBT: Favours BT maximum 15%, down to 6% (higher armour, lower it goes)

Apart from the last result, the strongest point of a Brutalizer is when the target has 15AR, an unrealistically low amount. In the last case, BT is strongest when the target has less armour, and slowly drops down as armour increases. In almost all cases, a fast BT is better than delaying your build with a Brutalizer. The 10arpen is still worthless early on.

In these tests, I assumed that an AD carry is running 15AD runes, and 21 in offense. Running armour pen marks actually favours BF rush even more.

If people are going to mention the CDR, or skills in general, give me a suggestion for an AD to compare it to, and I will compare the damage of their skills.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by DillButt64 » January 8, 2013 3:13am | Report
i normally rush a BF sword on adc's anyways i havnt seen much brut adc's early game
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Warlemming » January 8, 2013 4:07am | Report
It's not that I'm seeing it all the time, it's that I'm seeing it at all lol
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Embracing » January 8, 2013 4:12am | Report
No one rushes this wat O_o
The long-sword + 2 pots start is meant to build into vamp scepter

BC is good on certain ADCS tho, esp MF with her ult
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Wayne3100 » January 8, 2013 4:26am | Report
Here's my question: why do people call it 'Brutilizer'? :D

Personally I've never rushed Brutalizer but as Embracing said BC can definitely be good on specific AD Carries.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Warlemming » January 8, 2013 4:32am | Report
Because it's really brutil, obviously :>

The AD Carry (singular) that BC synergies especially well on is Corki, due to his E.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Pølsemanden » January 8, 2013 7:25am | Report
draven, his passive procs tbc
mf, her ult procs tbc
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by The Overmyynd » January 8, 2013 7:26am | Report
I could also see Draven rushing it, since his Spinning Axe deals extra AD anyway. Other than that it is likely better to rush BT, as per your impressive math skillz.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by FireLord » January 8, 2013 8:27am | Report
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