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How to build AP Xin Zhao :o (Suggestions needed)

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Ideas?

My build so far (for mid lane): Start Boots/Doran's Ring/Crystalline

Runes: Mpen Marks, Armor or Scaling HP Seals, Flat MR Glyphs, Flat AP Quints

Skill Order Crescent Sweep> Audacious Charge> Three Talon Strike> Battle Cry

Double Doran's Rings for dat tankiness and needed mana regen
Nashor's Tooth is just too cost efficient and all the stats are just so good on AP Xin.
Mercury's Treads much needed movespeed, tenacity and Magic Resist to catch and kill the enemy AP carry
Now what?

Malady? Lich Bane? Deathfire Grasp? Rabadon's Deathcap? Zhonya's Hourglass? Void Staff?

What items would you get and when?

Any suggestions are welcomed.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by FalseoGod » January 24, 2013 7:00pm | Report
I did is once, LEGENDARIUS

I think you max Battle Cry before three talon for the increased heal proc which is part of AP Zhao's inner gayness.

Started Crystalline, went to Nash, Rilay (although now it's the league of Warmog's), Rabadon, Lich bane and stopped there. For more gayness, Zhonya and Void are nice, DFG seems too narrow but might work, Abyssal can be good too.
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FalseoGod wrote:

I did is once, LEGENDARIUS

I think you max Battle Cry before three talon for the increased heal proc which is part of AP Zhao's inner gayness.

Started Crystalline, went to Nash, Rilay (although now it's the league of Warmog's), Rabadon, Lich bane and stopped there. For more gayness, Zhonya and Void are nice, DFG seems too narrow but might work, Abyssal can be good too.


Oh yeah I forgot Abyssal >_<. Deathfire indeed is a little weird

I don't actually really like Rylai's Crystal Scepter because it's only 15% slow AND your Audacious Charge already slows so that redeces the effectiveness of the slow even more, making it pretty much completely useless lol.

You only get +6 Healing for each additional rank in Battle Cry... and maxing Three Talon Strike really is a must I assure you. The extra damage REALLY helps... but the most important part is the -1 second cooldown on the spell. Xin Zhao scales exponentially with Cooldown Reduction. I'd like to explain but it's kinda hard. Just know that small cooldowns + 40% CDR on Xin is ****ing amazing lol.

I feel like AP Xin Zhao isn't even at half his capacity when he doesn't have maxed Audacious Charge AND Three Talon Strike AND 40% CDR. When he gets to that point, you can literally cast your E every 2-3 seconds lol.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by FalseoGod » January 24, 2013 8:10pm | Report
Didn't look at the numbers on Battle Cry, silly me. I'm sure you're right.

I mentioned rilay only because of the HP, I'm sure warmog's can do it's job fine. Iceborn Gauntlet might work instead of lich, less damage but more chaseability and extra AoE on an already AoE damage skill, plus the CDR and stuff.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Bellpepper » January 25, 2013 2:20am | Report
Guinsoo's Rageblade comes to mind, the proc is fairly easily stacked with Three Talon Strike it gives your hits some more Punch through AD and gives 40 AP as well (72AP if fully stacked) + the attackspeed. Dunno if it outweighs the advantages of the other items though. Since you really need Nashors, Boots, Malady, Deathcap and only got 2 "free" spots.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by FalseoGod » January 25, 2013 5:13am | Report
Nash + Malady can easily become overkill
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by DarkPercy » January 25, 2013 7:54am | Report
Yeah I don't know if that's too much Attack Speed and not enough AP/Tankiness...

Needs testing!!1!
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Pheyniex » January 25, 2013 10:41am | Report
never enough attack speed.


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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by Bellpepper » January 25, 2013 12:58pm | Report
Pheyniex wrote:

never enough attack speed.


Well... 2,5 with Battle Cry should be enough I think :P
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep | Commend by DarkPercy » January 25, 2013 3:39pm | Report
Actually with Battle Cry on, Malady, Nashor's Tooth and level 18, AP Xin will have 2.1746 Attack Speed :P

If you have Guinsoo's Rageblade though.... you can hit 2.5 I'm pretty sure

EDIT: Actually no, with max stacks Guinsoo's you'd have 2.39 Attack Speed. Not over 2.5 but still much more than needed lol.
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